What's up everybody I might show welcome to the hobby here on WGR Sports Radio 515 buffalo. And also WGR 550 dot com got a good show -- I think today. Major League pitcher Brad Ziegler from the Oakland -- will join me shortly. -- is not only good pitcher started his career with 39 scoreless innings in a row a record pretty good. But he is also -- car collector read about him in Beckett as someone who not only was in the collecting. But also especially collecting his own cards Beckett did a nice little page on him back and let's see here. March February march issue with Evan Longoria on the cover in Ziegler at the top. And since I've read that I've been interested in Brad and I wanna talk to him about collecting in his career with the case. Read costs -- will be on we'll talk about some fun cards through the year baseball through the years rather baseball cards sports cards. With Reid. One thought I had about that was cards of players who later on became managers. Tony La Russa comes to mind from the 68 -- mentioned maybe last week that I picked up 68 set. And I look at the the Russa card a common really. And think about how like I never really even. Knew him as a ballplayer -- was a strange picture of him to look at. As as soon as I started -- being a baseball fan like each ten or eleven. We'll Russa was a Major League manager he managed the White Sox to the division title by twenty games in 83 that was a team I really like so. I knew who he was at a young age but I never thought of him as having been a player before. So some of these cards are kind of funny like I have a sparky Anderson card from the sixty set when he was -- an infielder maybe. But not a manager. And I'm interested in knowing just if there's any value to these cards and maybe if anybody collects managers seemed like -- a strange thing to collect but that's something wanna ask read about and read I think has his own list for me today. Of some funny cards not to coaches necessarily but cards that are famous through the years for different reasons. And also are really. Often not much more than comments price wise. And I'll give us an email today to read -- joining us here on the hobby -- when I read you -- card collector got all excited it's nice to talk to somebody actually on the field. Who is is in the hobby as much as I -- or you today.
I'm doing well thanks yeah I've been you know much more avid collector when I was younger -- still. So that we collect.
Well I always I always wonder I was a kid who sometimes thought about may be playing baseball -- trying to. That it would be it would be fun to collect my own cards in your guy apparently who -- who -- done that -- done how has that been for it what's it like.
It's you know it's interesting it's funded to meet great people and upset I've had a lot of people -- found out who is -- problem they you know they really tried to sweeten the deal for me in and yeah I would I would argue some nice to them return and and you go through and through those methods I've been able to get a lot a pretty rare stuff from my rookie year last year and so good it's been beneficial to me -- our recollection doesn't do a lot of until.
So the the magazine article that I found out about you win was in a February march Beckett you're still ahead at that right Brad.
Yeah IA you know obviously I'm still looking at. That popped up from 2008. The serial number stuff especially. But I I try to get at least one of everything that comes out of mind. Men and and really try to load up on the number stuff from there.
Here so bread giving your. When your rookie and you started as hot as you did I mean there's going to be a lot of buzz about a player like yourself how is the Brad Ziegler market these days.
Let these days as a lot a lot easier they tracked down my own stuff that haven't to pay a lot more than -- opened -- for -- my cards. The other there was little bit above last year -- any you know that little farm you know whether or debit card can matter not in his you know the fund finder you last year and then. -- all the would be off these in my card carried credited values and thankfully this year. Have a I guess between LA I am quite hold it did last -- you're not still feel like I'm pro ball pretty well but it is put up the -- card to down and eat in do arrangement more affordable and and the like as much.
it gives it makes their allows for there to be an upside when you're not as hot a commodity. As a year ago Brad Ziegler is with us here on the hobby I might show we're talking about -- collector -- you ever. -- and other players on your team or players that you know around around baseball are there are there many card collectors in the game.
You know the few I don't know -- to go to anybody else on our team. You know obviously about it but pat -- checking and is it collection an autograph and memorabilia collection. Men and there's the other -- other thing -- guys that they do it but that's not something -- talk about a whole lot you know just when -- in the lockers and stuff I didn't care until. That I'm only to have -- that will. Don't people sending multiple cards in the mail. You out of -- assign -- one for somebody that figure they're getting multiple -- that the DJ at the trying to sell them and saw all -- one and in the back to minority and then that you know usually that keeping the rest without anybody else do and that does they they really don't care about having their about to have a lot. To give my friends and family and and that they'll be able that. Be able to know this year that would interest pretty cool you know for them to keep me on a -- as well.
That's good for collectors to know because until I'm sure there still a lot of people who may or may not want to sell cards and you might have an opinion you wanna share about that but. If they're sending you more than one. They know what they're getting into.
Oh well if not are telling me get back. You know by mail you know a lot of -- there was going to be people who have like trying to almost kind of -- stories in the letter. And don't know that the believe it or not you know you don't know yet they're trying to get an autograph -- or there if it through the alleged deal. I tried you know I try to honor everything that I can just without going overboard and and that you want to destroy in the -- like a lot of guys do then that -- pocket.
When I when I think about like my collection with my friends sometimes Obama a little concerned if that's the word that. May be the hobby doesn't have much credibility in their eyes that they think I'm either -- little kid. Or you know may be -- destroy it'd be a dealmaker something like that do you think about that do you think about. What kind what kind of status the hobby brings -- credibility anything like that is that does that bother you.
Not so much Jerry you know I understand we find something rare that that. You know that would be something. There's been a lot of people would desire to have. You know it I realized the monetary value that the so it was that bit most of my collection. I I could absolutely care less how much Picard the word. And -- dead or what people pay form you know I I collect data card the guys I know I -- went right -- with a rookie Ryan and I were roommates in college. I'm so I attribute a lot of this stuff when it first came out and and thankfully -- that -- you in the big prospect and find out lot of this stuff real -- and in the next you know a few years later he does that really -- off. And you know -- without approval follow. Played against him and prep school for three years then. And four. No but you didn't you really have anything on the market until you've been big league and at that time he was really making flash and and this stuff -- flowed down either so. So it's you know nowadays is -- a lot tougher. To get. Rookie cards of those guys discuss how much it would cost. But I -- I've got to a preacher collection that stuff so Coleman and you know I guess that I'm not looking to sell it give it it all has personal value to me.
Very good what do you do with all your cards Brad.
Right now they're they're candidates can storage. We're in the process of being in the output of open at that point to have -- memorabilia room. Just you know a very secure member earlier about but one that I didn't. But I have friends come over and again we don't wanna see it but I did take him and then you know have on the group likely -- like dude this is off.
That's when I'm open for by the way Chris we all want that Brad Ziegler with DA's joining us here from Anaheim on the hobby I might show. So one -- talking about cards -- I mean maybe -- you pick your spots with your teammates but for me. That the hobby is is just so much fun to talk about and and I get in I get to sort of have my fun doing this because I enjoyed so much you like that.
Absolutely and Ambien and it player rep for the players' union and I'm on are -- be on the committee. Four in mobile licensing and that deal directly with trading cards than and how the players are compensated for what. Card companies make you know on the card than. And they do -- get the feel lot of cards. Just at least at least. You know I don't know if so -- picked -- the -- of the card. Comment what what the -- looked like before they even come out on the market and that's and I really enjoyed you know didn't see that side of it because it's. Yeah others. There's a guy who works for the players' union -- its sole job is to check. And make sure that the cards -- done appropriately. You know make sure that. But they're not infringing on your rights -- like that in and so he you viewed big name in the cart firsthand. -- demo cars before they even know they even are lower it from in the market for the unit mass production. Just so. So he can make sure that they're appropriate then. And you know that he shared that have put me because he knows I am a collector and and it's been a lot of thunder take a look at.
That's interest thing Brad can you tell us anything more about the licensing aspect of -- as far as the players go like. A Mac committed this about -- specifically ask you to tell us dollar amounts but if you if you want to that's great I just I think blisters or wanna know how it works from your -- Do you Schneider is utterly.
The players union itself. Owned the rights to all the players. Images but photographed the -- and for the cart companies have to purchase bill writes from the players' union to be able to put a clear picture on a Carter be able that. It put his name on there and and -- that's something that you I don't I don't like it even exactly know the dollar figures avoided you know. Let it cost to make an entire brain -- top -- prior sort of understood their top card. On the -- you know I feel good over the course of the year. I think a percentage of their sales about -- it's into the players' union. A percentage of bit like advertising and public said that it did yeah. You know being compensated for all that and unity of the year you know that's -- been -- Memorabilia itself and and two -- store sales like show. Elected to trigger a teacher intensive capital gains by the players all get small portion of that and then you know every spring training. I -- had big league and you before it gets if small check just based on. How much how much memorabilia was told you before and how much big -- time they had the year before. And yeah that's what that's disperse evenly among players -- liberated time.
Sure good so it's not about it got it all about how whose jerseys sold or anything it's about how long you were in the big leagues -- divided up equally from there.
Good right and I think the only the only time there's ever an exception to that is if there's a guy playing who let me say is not in the union. My. For instance. Kevlar on the union because he was Kaplan whenever the players striking in that 94. You know Barry Bonds I think elected for a long time to not be in the union. And therefore if you oversaw his. Is if you give -- character on video game was never right black guy hitting left into the lookalike getting right handed with a generic name. They have very -- that god hand jerk you know so that's you know he he. He didn't want. Everybody else being able to get a portrait of the money that you thought what all of -- him but he wanted to negotiate -- don't -- at that point. Through an agent and and that's why a lot of a lot of videogame company the card companies didn't wanna pay and what you Baskin and -- couldn't make cards and.
Make sense -- dramatic -- his card never had his name on -- he was the only one set food and have his own name on the card we're talking with.
only guy he yeah the only guy at that time that that. There's a clear you'd be part of the union and the licensing agreement.
There it is Brad Ziegler VA's without spread how about having to do autographs. For cards and then also for fans are there any thing are there things you can tell fans about. Do's and don'ts kind of and and it's signing cards -- guess and that's one for -- since you collect them.
No I -- obviously. I'm on the full market value of the guy account briefly -- card. I assign it a lot to a lot of people that that really destroy the value of the card. And so. So Leo they could become an autograph inserts are becoming critical -- and you want that are. That habit and after and that doesn't require anything that a little locked in a package over. Or you know bind them -- on these days specifically that you -- you want. But it hardly come to a game get an autograph. I try to make our every single day in and not all players do and all players have to argue that I'm an audit should I mean in the biggest thing is I think there's a lot of -- And -- was pressured as a player but there's a lot they PP because -- the game well because they come and wait outside the stadium before after a game they feel like we owe them an autograph. Well we owe them kinda stop and take a picture or whatever and they get mad at it that we don't have time and they did you know what it is assumed. We have nothing you know nothing to do our personalized and all we do on the ballpark play and then and -- invest the time we should we should be given back to the -- And you know a lot of guys really try to make an effort to be. But it is frustrate some time what else did not -- if you're sick you autograph. And I've got a meeting in the cold out you know -- report meeting. To talk about the team or playing that night and I'll take opera and the cops -- and -- and NAFTA so that. And it's like you I just maintained minutes signing autographs and got a if you will lead our orbit that you know we do have a job and and we do. We do have personalized sometimes after game you know my my wife has been found I want to go out at dinner -- and and that your my parents or any other family -- by get a lot of stuff after gains. I can that's kind of my Simon and a lot of it don't understand the need to hurry out after a game you know inflated by that. But you know we just run on different schedule we you know we wake up at 11:12 o'clock -- lot of -- going about it at Warner Q after games.
That's all there it yet that's all very fair I think Brad I think is of course it's because of the money is and it is that why people think you'll warm stuff because of how much more money the players make in the used to make.
I answer a lot of and you know people people a lot of people discussing our -- there. Are you know. Just this glorious walking there's you know because of the money that is involved we don't have to worry about anything breaststroke I've been and we all have stepped on our our personal lives. You know we don't want to become public in the and its. You'll that you never know sometimes when a guy's going out of pitcher and a gamer gotten out to play right field in the game when he's seven you know you -- daughter sick home. And you you know you're worried about that all the time and a lot of people who don't think about that they can always do that a baseball and and you know we we very much you with the same problems that. Every of people all -- that then and it's really frustrating when they don't accept that.
Interesting to hear you say that I've got a lot of opinions about them myself may be some other time we can talk about it before the gold. Before that you go -- you know Dmitri young and his collection.
I do not and I I've never never even have the privilege of playing against him.
He has been on the show he has one of the best graded. Vintage cards so our collections in the world. It's all Hall of Fame rookie cards and he's out buying PSA nines and tens of cards from the fifth these. Sports market report from PSA that a profile on him I've I've talked to about it. And it's just it's just unbelievable what he's got -- And if that appeals to -- someday maybe maybe your collection old head in that direction.
That may -- relative speak if nothing else clever idea ever have a chance to meet him then they'll give us something to talk about.
Oh for sure he's he's great to talk to about it hey Brad I am so grateful you made some time for me today thank you. -- Brad Ziegler all of the days while I really enjoy that Pope needed to read costs -- from David Adam's card world coming up next stay tuned.
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Welcome back to the hobby I am Mike show you can hear our old episodes online at WGR 550 dot com look for the hobby logo. And find the audio archive there on the right side of our hobby page. Time now to bring in hobby regular -- cost Coca the head buyer from David Adams DA cart world dot com what's up read. Wanna get a little the oldest -- with you today toggle baseball here and I'll I'll get specific. I had I've I've mentioned on the show I recently acquired a 68 baseball set. And lot of great players in the set the -- rookie of course the bench but also there's a pretty nice pretty nice collection of famous managers who were in this set Tony La Russa. Comes to mind and might might colleague here injury looked at the Carden said who knew Tony La Russa ever looked like a ball player. So for guys our age -- wonder just what you might think of when I'm talking about this you know some of these some of these managers that appear on older cards his ball players it's. I think that's a pretty interesting area of the early thought about it before as a collector. What do you have to say about it and -- think.
of the managers. Bennett appreciate it about it like GM Terry Francona -- collectible cards of them when they played. Back in the eighties. -- like -- to -- Ottawa be granted you know they had varying degrees success of their careers that by Adobe's really superstars. But its its status he'd what stage -- a thousand manager and a pretty good one. That their carts started to have up barrels of the -- Prescott which which you'll. Beats me to believe that people wanna go back to collect. Pull out cards. Current managers who used to be players for.
Yet that I'm I'm actually glad to hear that I wondered if there would be I was -- a question I had in mind for -- wondered if there would be actually more interest in their cards it stands to reason that there would be. But I guess I haven't really noticed much.
Well did that to manager cards and that comes to mind. First and foremost. -- be used before players is just before -- Tommy LaSorda. And 69 top sports camps in both -- I -- force whatever reason right away but after the protests on one attention. -- And it went back up because of that people want to celebrate -- to replace about point. And I think you know. Can't practically -- five -- maybe it's maybe saturated in his cards started to take it and move again and in my social purposes buried in the 81 tops that -- Not too many stellar rookies there. Third year that yeah his cards started to make a charge to after after The Beatles wanted to do was.
For all the social Carty someone of those future stars cards right Dodgers with a little blue hat -- it. I don't know maybe he is -- checked. We're talking with the -- so you know you mentioned the sort and sparky Anderson I I think the sixty set that I've collected and sparky Dick Williams is in there Tito Francona was a player in those days he's in there. Joe Torre comes along read for the most part would you say this would you say that for the most part though. While there is some passing. In increasing interest from time to time with managers it's not really the kind of thing where you would see a big a big upswing.
Now it's it's definitely. But usual and it's it's cool to include them it's part of the -- even matches are current -- salon. You know pops or whatever or trying to include -- it's when -- that's and it does make strange thing. Editions. But for the most part. Most kids back down there most of those now just don't seem to really care about. The -- country regards.
All right -- how about some other sports here I'm thinking about one of the seventies hockey sets might have been 74. That has Scotty Bowman and Don cherry and -- ever you do cherries wearing funky sue. Ballmer I think is is wearing like a warmup jacket in his cards and those those cards are in the book. Price wise so -- would it be different in any other sport and a football there are some football coach cards from the old days to.
I really I mean. They do it attracted about. -- Or. It was a lot of static in the final Americans. Most coaches secretary a couple of party Arafat my -- Then he did in the sense that there really isn't much crossover against the greatest crossover would still be coaches are used to players I think basketball's probably the one that. Principles. Widespread. Notoriety with -- told Jackson apparently for right.
Okay I'm thinking you say Lombardi I I also recently came across a 64. Philadelphia set in its not like Lombardi or the other coaches have their own cards but. There they have little little face pictures on the on the -- cards. And that's a pretty nice set for that you've got top Lombardi Landry Shula George callous. On the bears cards and all they don't have the wrong but at least are on their at least they appear 65 to. So there's a few years of that. All right well that's one area wanted to cover -- did they read just some of these coach cards like or managers when they were players it's wanted to get a little bit more background on that. You found out -- you went through and looked up some some famous cards that are not famous because of who the players are exactly or whether they coach played managed whatever but they're they're kind of famous -- funny that might be the better word for different reasons.
Brett there's it was a -- cards for whatever reason are funny or they're courageous thing. But one that comes several inspired for responses to the infamous Billy Ripken cards -- clear. -- the debt that sort of one of many dialogue -- similar lines of where it's quite good taste. You know that one of the ones we just talked about the opposite it was simply to build smart card. I put my it was a management and yup and as a pitcher Adam. Status -- the barricades. And he's holding about worries yulia Japan on the top of the patents and -- on the ground. And whether it's intentional or not knowing Billy Martin probably is the waste disposal about. It looks like -- what for the birds to India to McCarron oh yeah. And it's -- never got fixed -- northerly mattered two or government parents checked but if you look at it. And stick it -- deliberate is in the kind of humor. That he was for what that's probably --
They might have been intentional and it might have just been passed off as you know something unintentional at the time right. He might have been managed the tigers then. To jump back into thinking of managers like it you have these players that I mentioned like La Russa you mentioned sparking Anderson. Guys who were not accomplished players they were major leaguers but not great players assorted -- became famous as managers you have. Take a case like Ted Williams. Who's got a at least one or two manager cards from the Washington senators right around I think he's got a 71. Manager cards so you have guys go the other way too.
Yes definitely. Then you know boasting about. Where about players -- is that that's -- intensely on cards because of the other stories like. It Gary -- 195 tops and brother take estrogen for -- so sometimes the players and sometimes its staff. Who that tops or whatever company. -- it'll creative but -- The one thing that hostage over years ago as -- like 2001 two camera exact year but. When they put multiple players on the cards like the bird magic rookie yeah it's it's jail bird it's -- you start jailer called the bird magic cards right. We'll -- decided that they would put these two relative on the particular cards. One guy's name was -- offer. And yet again nameless Jung -- So if you put the two victories there you can refer to as the blockbuster card.
I guess you could. And that's that's -- that's not a mistake.
That's that's intentional by somebody conflict. Staff members of -- kind of funny when you when you're required you to do two together okay with -- and it has only it's not that but distasteful -- just so it's salute you were at all.
I'm okay I'm okay with the anyone there's a line but I'm okay with. Card company. Making it a little bit more challenging for you or you try to spot be it be nice if it were and it probably is somehow available to know like exactly what you think we did hear the good sort of make a -- a lot of it. But I'm okay with them taking liberties like that I'm I'm thinking is you're talking I was thinking of the of the Jeter card from 2007. Where they put George Bush President Bush and also Mickey Mantle in the shot in that was obviously. There's nothing subtle about that.
Knows it's quite intentionally. -- proved once again that victims. Create a little controversy they create little buzz about their products to return you know helps older their product which is it's very departure of the year. And like that it's in music if you question collected -- and it definitely did work I think some of you know products from Europe 2007 topped one is still quite expensive because of the demands for.
And we're just talk about some interest in cards through the years one -- one I thought of here Reid is the because it solving church on May be up pinnacle hockey card were you see Patrick Kane and his father came as a young boy sitting in the front row with the --
That's right that was. I guess we discovered a couple of years ago you know. And I don't know who knew that at a time I'm sure you McCain knew when he saw some for the cards. Well I heard about it I just didn't believe a signal to the public thought of that happening to serve out you know we -- in this warehouse sensible -- went up. In response that is that certain areas and you know pat Kane can make -- has one of the -- cards out there.
I guess he does and his father -- I I've heard. Is is what was well known in those days for being someone who collected hockey sticks might have been the the guy a guy who would hang around practice or after games and and suction. And pick up sticks from players things like that. So -- that connects to discard him being in the front row you can buy those tickets but just as something else that I've I've heard about the -- family. From the old days. Okay -- one other thing I'm gonna get into the next guys -- sort of you before we go what you go here. I am in now going to all the gory details for you here but a minute fantasy league baseball league. Where it's it's a game simulation. And it's retro. So we're starting up new in 1951. With all the players who were in the league in 1951. The draft is under way I draft eleventh I had that thought last night much to my wife's disappointment or anger perhaps. That whoever I pick with the first round pick in 1951. Here. Would be someone whose cards I would try to go get. Now that could be Jackie Robinson. All out there's a good chance it will be probably a hall of famers somebody who was whose cards can relieve runs run you some money. But you know again with with collecting wouldn't you say I mean there's always just new ideas you have and new things you can get into any time it's part of what makes great.
The lesser of maybe your maybe your wife would get a good idea and so do you torrents of -- early ninety's comic collection --
That's right shall shall insist that I draft someone who's basically worthless. There's just disparity expense or us. That anybody about Jackie Robinson anybody that's that we've never heard of would be perfect. Gregory nice talking is always. Okay well here -- that it's a stretch dramatic baseball 1951 draft in the first few picks are on Mickey Mantle Willie amaze me imagine Mickey Mantle you couldn't just go business. I just I couldn't do it depending until I get it there's a good chance of the -- idea out of my price range anyway. But it's a fun idea. You don't with collecting you know you just don't have to have a reason. To have a great reason for getting -- to anybody. And with the Internet it's so easy now to get in and out collections. You get bored with certain stuff you can sell them pretty swiftly. You get interested in a new idea try to collect in -- I didn't get Jackie Robinson I go out and try to. Whether it's because I sell awful lot of what I have. I'd be able to afford it sort of right do I decide on any given day. I'm gonna go buy all the Jackie Robinson cards that are out there one at a time best I can do it and you know -- That's what I love about it I love that there are these new. Basically call them sets. New new things you can do all the time. We talk about the new products a lot of collectors get frustrated with how many different kinds there aren't. The kind of stuff that you get in the given box you do not have to worry about that. To be a collector you don't have to care you can go back and basically shop online for singles or whatever you do. It's just like Bynum to a store really it's a it's a big part of it that I love new ideas putting putting emotion. I might show this is a hobby you can send me any mallet a hobby at WGR. 550 dot com checks and emails next stay tuned. I'm -- show welcome back to the hobby everybody good Saturday morning. We have a couple of topics we'll get to hear some email. As well the cup is out this year at the high end hockey product you know some of you have told me. Before that you are cup collectors I have dabbled in a little bit myself. But on church in the popular looking at about 300 to 350 dollars a pack. And that is going to be 45 maybe six cards. In a pack you can expect lots of autographs. Patch cards lots of cool stuff but that's that's the price range I'm I'm into here. The cup this year and the new idea that I like. I -- a lot talking about Jersey cards and such that. You know these these are kinda played out I don't know anymore how much people really get excited to see -- Jersey pieces of Paul Americo. Thank you let's step it up this is a new idea that I like the cup this year has attic I want it took -- colleague minor at the station credit for. Pointing this out to me draft board cards. Where you had the if you if you think of how the NHL draft looks maybe you know there's a big board. Behind were the players are announced and then introduced the -- the jerseys. The big board as the team logo and in the name of the player -- is slotted in on board. And the that upper deck got hold of the and the name plates from the draft -- the official entry draft board. And caught a -- and parliament cards so like about talk about Patrick Kane earlier. There are cards of him I -- lot of the top rookies now last couple years. The their draft boards are caught up and put into these cards I think that's a cool idea and it's it's a new ideas so I want to I wanted to bring that to your attention. I also just wanted to say one more time the the plan made before the last the last break I think is Israeli. But really nice and wanna just make it again I wanna I wanna talk a little bit more about that. You you can spend. You'd you can be the type -- person did not think a lot about this or you can also -- it's like to obsess about it which is more like I am. Just thinking about different ways to steer your collection you do not have to just sit back in settle for. You you certainly can but like all all the Topps sets. From certain years to certain years or all that all upper access whatever you you can. You can buy what's out there you can try to buy everything that's out there that's next to impossible these days. What you need to do what most people need to do. Is narrow. What they can't afford what they want. And the largest so many. An infinite number of ways you can do that. If you're a baseball fan you can collect hall of famers you can collect players from your favorite team. You can collect rookies from your favorite team you can collect -- least short stops I mean there's just no end to it. And I really encourage you to. Think about how specific. You wanna be with your collection and I just think that's really fun I think. You can you can take whether what position did you play growing up what's your favorite position with your favorite player which are lucky number all players that wore number thirteen. Or all cards that are numbered thirteen a read something in Beckett magazine I think it was about a collector reviewers online. Who just collected all the cards numbered number five. In every set. All time dislike that means some of -- weird. But you can't really get specific with what it is -- you collect and I absolutely encourage you to do that. Because there are just so many options out there I would want you to see I wanna see you get bogged down. In collecting if you get back into it and then lose interest again. What what you'd like to be able to do. Is find a nice pace to your collections so you could add to it every once in awhile at a pace that doesn't cost you too much too much money. So it doesn't become a real problem. But it also keeps you going. And whether that's hall of famers you know new new men are added every year whatever it is I'd love I'd love to hear some feedback about this -- I mention. Whatever it'll end up being Jackie Robinson or some player right draft an old timers fantasy draft and I might wanna go back and collect. All of their cards or some of their cards whatever is feasible. You you can just you you can always be doing that. And without the Internet. It's it's a lot tougher but now you can move your things quickly enough to be able to it to change -- you don't end up with ten different. Really narrow collections if you don't want that you could you can put them on line I've told you before I think you can really trust that. These days a lot of hobby trading and buying and selling happens on the Internet and the vast majority of it. Is a reliable you can use eBay you can use sports card forum another set -- like you have you have a a few good options there. Got an interesting email from Charles this week wanted to share with you. The listener to the show collects basketball. Was into it in the early ninety's and then got back into lately. Collecting rookie cards from all sports seventies and eighties and also the Yankees here's an example of talking about being able to. Really pinpoint what kind of collection you want to have so many different ways you can go. Charles writes my question is this how do I find cards that I can trust are not counterfeit. The easy thing would be of migrated cards I'm familiar with -- cards but I really don't like the cases they common I don't care for how they look. I feel a collection of -- cards would not look uniform on display. I remember hearing. You say you collect mostly graded cards I'm wondering if you know of a web site a dealer. And eBay dealer anyone that can give me some some info on spotting counterfeits. Or just some basic tips like I consider myself fairly educated on collecting but of course there is always more to learn. This is this is a really good question one thing I'm gonna say that I say a lot. From other questions from other topics. Is again how helpful it is if you have a relationship a good relationship with the dealer. Someone that you trust. Those are not talking online yet. Just someone in your area this this gentleman's local. Someone in your area that you can get to know and not even worry about counterfeits because they're going to be able you know most dealers assuming they've been in business for awhile. And that's part of the reason why you wanna trust them. Most dealers are going to be able to spot counterfeits not necessarily easily. But like I wouldn't trust myself as much as -- as much time. And and energy is I spend on my collection I wouldn't trust myself all 100%. To know a counterfeit from an authentic card. Your point about -- cards is very well taken. I am not I'm not comfortable really buying on graded on line. Because. I'm not sure what I'm getting it's not just Adam and that's that's much that I am worried about a car being counterfeit. But -- I'd be worried about it's condition. Creases. Some kinda defects that I can't see from the listing and I can't. Always trust the sellers to list everything there is about the card I think that you know isn't even. Necessary to do when -- when you're -- cards online you don't have to I don't think you do have to list every particular. Thing of interest about the card you know you might wanna give some idea a general idea what condition it's in. So what were your -- here is that are really interesting spot I I respect your point about degraded cards in the cases. And you know we've had Mario Alejandro on a couple times -- seven I remember him saying he's not integrated cards at all he said because. These cards are meant to be played with and help not putting plastic slabs and I respect that too. To me the reason the greater cards appealed to mean. Are because of the confidence I have buying them on line one and two I also enjoy the competition within the set registry. On web sites like PSA card dot com -- and compare. Graded collections I have two other people and it's not. It's not a real. You know smart thing to do financially because we can end up getting cards -- just for the sake of it and you can end up spending some money that way. But I admit I'm sort of hooked on the concept and he enjoyed the competitive aspect of that so get to know someone locally. Dealer wise to help you with this. And if you wanna buy online you can risk non -- and sometimes you'll find beautiful cards that you might be able to grade. And flipped. Four a pretty good profit. But Tom. You know it's -- to very texting situation there you don't want degraded -- you don't wanna worry about counterfeit and not exactly sure what you can do. By local trust people and develop a network that's the safest way I can think of the -- it's there's going to be some risk no matter which direction you go and about a time and Mike show thanks let's hobby hope you enjoyed Brad Ziegler and -- today tune in your next Saturday 8 AM eastern thanks.
