that was then and this is now card collecting his big business now cards have your heroes that your mom tossed are still out there and sometimes they fixed six figures you can spend hundreds -- new products and still make -- how does it all works these days welcome to -- hobby. WG yards in new show created to keep collectors up to speed on the latest trends and let everyone else -- just held fast in lucrative collecting still can beat peers WG yards most avid collector Mike show.
Thanks -- along this morning everybody I am lake show this is the hobby that guy just said that. I am live in studio today hopefully some of you might wanna give me -- we can talk about collecting cards memorabilia what have you. 8030515. I have really been excited about how in the last. It's a ten weeks or so we've had a few callers. Mentioned. Things that they have that are super big mean just stuff that. I and Italian I am superficial. Someday maybe hopefully all of a long life and someday maybe I will get to a point with my collection. That it's actually things that I really like. And not just things that have certain book value. I've got bit of the big picture big picture in my TV room. Probably the biggest. Photo that I have and it's signed. Is -- I love this picture -- me wrong but it's the it's the first pitch at the picture of the first pitch of Larson's perfect game 1956. World Series and it's signed by Don Larsen pitcher in Yogi Berra. The catcher. And I think it's really cool I love to look at this picture the clock in right field at the time is one note to. It's a World Series game that starts not only in the afternoon but. Like 1 o'clock not a 127. Or some nonsense like that you've you've got the batting order on the on the scoreboard in right field with the numbers of the batter's. You've got the crowd the fans are all there and everybody's in their C like it's 1 o'clock. And this is when exposed to be here this when the game starts it's beautiful. The problem is I don't like the Yankees. So the picture like that ought to belong to someone who is a big Yankee fan and also has the same appreciation. For. Are that for the nuances of the picture for. The momentous. Nature of that game one have you. Under any -- what am I doing with this. So maybe someday I will get to a point where my collection is actually things that mean. Special. Things to -- Memories. Players. I was thinking about it I'll tell you why just the second thing about a green card today. I think about different topics what's your dream card. And out again and tell you why I only got this idea I think you'll like this little story. But I thought I -- I thought about this before I really don't have one. Because I can't pin down like a favorite player or -- favorite team and a certain part with that it's hard to attain or obtain. But Tom that would be great to have. Like if it's like as a kid for example I was dale Murphy -- As was read costs -- who join me some times in the show from David Adams I was a big dale Murphy fan I was not a braves fan but. Like many people my age I'm 37. You get home from school the Braves are on 5 o'clock every day on TBS. My friend Jake would always joke about how Zane Smith seemed to pitch every game for them. Rick mailer those guys I mean you solve every day and Murphy that's how I came to really love dale Murphy but. If I want the best dale Murphy card with -- cost me ten box. So I guess I have that I don't really have my collection a place where it's things that are really special to me. I've had an opportunity to pick up some autographed jerseys along the way but are not like the latest one I have his Ken stabler. Because I love the signature or look the look at the Jersey. Seventies era of football is really cool I mean I just there were things about it the price was right there are things about it that appealed to me. I was never really been steeler fan or raiders fan so my collection is scattershot. And maybe someday I'll do better with that. Number why -- I think the idea. I got an email from a listener named Joshua. The other day maybe decade was here working with me today on the board -- and play along to be my Guinea pig here for a second then you've you've had as I've worked with you a little bit on the show is. You you seem to have a a basic interest in a lot of the things that we talk about but you're not a collector right. I I don't really collect a human beings that might be considered. Valuable or at least you know interesting -- like a lot of people I know you'll you'll listen to it if you find it interesting -- like sports but you're not going to buy boxes a card that's right. Joshua wrote me an email the other day and I'm grateful to him this was on Thursday I'm not sure you take ideas for topics but I pulled the cardinal local card store. It was -- sports cards Niagara Falls boulevard near grape vine restaurant here were near where we are. And he writes it's created some buzz in the local market and on message boards. So I thought you know all right. Basically you -- you sent me an email that has the words message boards -- it and I'm. I'm already you know snubbing by no little bit so I clicked on the link and then here's the card and ask you what you think you might be worth. It is it is the upper deck spokesman. That name doesn't mean anything to your right it doesn't even to me. Upper -- spokesman Tiger Woods Michael Jordan. Dual all dole. Swatch. Number to five. So you've got I only -- turned the monitor you can you always know they need to the price can't do that it's it's a regular card. Sticker autographs like the the cards and the use the card itself was not signed by the two men. But these stickers were and they stick the stickers on the cards you've got Tiger Woods autographed Michael Jordan's. With a piece of a short. That tiger what woods Warren a tournament. And a piece of -- Jersey that Jordan -- an NBA game numbered five. And he bought this from he opened it. And in selling it. That there are five of them that exist. And I'm gonna tell you after you -- tell you what the current leading bid is. Everybody should also know there are three and a half days before this auction and that's on me today. So what's that. Tuesday night. Tuesday night maybe around 715 when the auction and I'll be watching a.
Like that I would quit -- oh enter her no interest but no knowledge whatsoever. I -- gas right now. -- it is. -- 450 dollars us. I was thinking you might guess for a 500 dollars that's really funny thank you. Three and a half days left in the auction you're your 10% of the actual leading -- little less real right now the leading -- is 4949. Dollars. -- Atlanta advertisement for them right it can happen anywhere by. I don't even know what to say. They -- inside the -- to -- mr. stickers. It's tiger and Michael Jordan the way I thought what limited knowledge. With spotlight. -- where you mash worlds such as Michael Jordan yeah it would spell it. It came out and -- that -- Well let's not cut and dried I mean that this is an example obviously by its price. Of a card that mean you've got to iconic. Players and autograph seekers who autographed stickers good point. That card might get 67000 dollars for this guy that's you know disorder car. And you still have a car. Is this older car and you get to keep it.
Wow. I can't I cannot even tell you what I think of that I I didn't even know -- just love collecting what the big minutes. Green and 67 grand for that card tiger and -- What you've done here I mean to your to your question in which you've got here I guess. Is tiger collectors NJ collectors both. Battling. I mean in the highest of high rent districts. For that for that card. So. Good luck with forfeit the -- 494900. I'm sure a lot of people listening are bidding on this car right now and don't appreciate my upping the ante here. I know you're driving around like I have the highest bid. Five grand for this card thanks Mike now everybody else is going to go bid on --
Auckland. Under the -- to those just you you and I are gonna and a big. Head to head. So let's not bad for Josh is right there.
Thank you Josh for letting me know congratulations. That is. Incredible. 8030550. Is the phone number if you've got a comment question about collecting I'd love to hear from him I'll be here until 9 o'clock. I wanna spend a little time they just let me let you don't have a couple things and then we'll get to some calls. One is I mentioned last week I have a woman on today from an insurance company talking I don't. Well I've -- it on the right day you're thinking no it's cool. And a company that specializes. In ensuring collections. And a topic I think Israeli interest they wanna get into some some. Different topics here a year to of the show. And but things that are gonna be useful and that to me is something that's useful. Public she wasn't feeling well so we don't have and marine on from a company in Maryland will try to talk to her next week. Also. I wanna spend some time on. The ninety's early ninety's here and just have some fun looking back for those of you that remember. What card collecting was like twenty years ago I'm always talking about what it was like thirty years ago. When I was little or before. Like with you know some of you can remember collecting cards in the fifties and sixties and how he didn't really think they would be worth any thing and everybody's got that story. In the eighties even early eighties it was like that mean to me I am nineteen years old I'm not really worried about that too much but. Values really weren't the main thing was just want to do it and trade and a look at the backs and everything. By 1990 was out of control there was a card store and every corner you've heard people talk about this perhaps I wonder if and some of you might be enjoyed. I'm gonna talk about that a little bit maybe you have particular memories like means of sets and everything I've got a story about. About. Action packed member action packed I was thinking about this. Because of Brett Favre Brett Favre had that amazing game on Monday night by the way for those of you wondering you listen to the show before mine I'm just talking out. You're not we're not legally. Allowed to just call him far. By his last name like we do every other athlete in sports you have to -- Coleman. That's why we do that Brett Favre what is Brett Favre that's rookie card it is from star picks. Mean that's one of the many sets the just. Sprouted up. In the late eighties early ninety's that -- to be found -- united got a half dozen or so. Manufacturers of cards and yet you might have had comedy one a year thirty different companies that got in the game. A star picks. The best Favre card you could have rookie wise is a star picks autographed. Not it's not a common -- it's hard to find those little. -- six boxes may be -- I opened a few of those I was in the business of I was struck trying to get into dealing man. And drugs card dealing that and I would I despite everything I bought some of -- the crappy just stuff. Thinking that I was gonna get rich doing it. Says Tom analyst at Pacific classic action packed. Broad set of course. All this stuff almost all of this stuff is all worthless now I mean no value start a fire with it. Let's you have this. Brett Favre autographed Carter about ten other cards from the zillions are so that were made in those years. If you've got a funny memory of collecting in about 1990 or 91. Give me call 8030550. Is the phone number let's talk today and now hi Dan.
I don't Michael. It's. Really. Art collector like somebody other people might call war like Q but I can't collection.
early ninety's I took a jab more traveled around the country and a.
To kill time output card shops what I ended up doing was built a complete set of bills cards just just teams cents -- carts from 1960. To make it 9394. At every single -- make it right at its books and I think every hard it was every ever -- treat -- air tremendous 394. That all the sudden so many different our -- Companies like you mentioned the plastic so I'll -- these pro set all these other ones came out right it was just too much to keep up. But he bought wondered how to value that I mean I've got like monster Andy Williams Willie Evans these guys from the sixties that -- What a weird and eager Chandler tired they came out -- that of 1970 to 1973. Yeah. Apps to produce many bright and -- you know I I've always wondered I mean I would whistle would have more value here. In this area just because what it is -- and there's even like some inserts like -- got these like it look like little photo albums that came with these. Like punch out trying -- stamps be put in him.
I wish I could tell you what that was I don't -- I don't know a lot of those insert sets late sixties early seventy's a lot of sets came with. And on the 68 baseball set -- recently bought as this game set that came with it like one per -- or something so. -- anyway Tom. You wanna know what what you have.
I -- sent me an EBI would like.
I mean that's Portugal Drupal can find out that this one charge worth three cents and that's what we're -- that's the -- get the camps you OJ Simpson.
You have the you have to a poll 65 tall pink ones.
While those -- along those. Long ones will know what. What's you even -- and insert in fact it would probably have to be worth a lot of money because for example one of the pages of dot. Insert elbows it comes with a tired it's like -- George and lance allred.
Because of the -- let me try to give -- an answer here because of all the yes. Dan Dan. Dan. -- my god let me try to get your answer -- You need. Find somebody if you can because of all those little extra insert things are talking about try to find somebody. That can help you. Analyze all those cards but not a dealer. Find a friend who would know. A great demeanor out there you go to a card show try to get to know somebody that can help view assess the value of that stuff. I'm not sure I'm even qualified to do and I mean I'm in the despite a lot of those sixty's and seventy's insert sets are tough and honestly like there are dealers in the area that I trust to very very much. But if you went into certain places and you had all that stuff there might be big stop there. And I don't know that you would feel like a 100%. Trusting that. You get. I I I don't say too much. What you wanna do is find somebody who can tell you exactly what you have there in terms of that the top sets through all the years. What you said you could do is what you should do which is just go through a book. And Panama. Then you wanna consider condition as far as those cards go with me if you send me a couple of scans like the 65. You have them if you have pictures though I can help you. Advising their because with with cards like that even may -- your -- stuff but certainly just basic issue Topps cards from the sixties. If you have great conditions stuff that may be grating would be an option free to consider. But Tom generally. To put a number on what you've got. I would say find a friend who really knows it. And to find someone like that I would suggest going to a card show -- just striking up conversations with people. Go to would go to tables. And find a table where you see a lot of that stuff up and maybe you can. Strike a chord with someone who's working there. And get get an idea I mean I are not given the dealers and that meaning give dealers a bad name here you could also. Go into a store I mean I mentioned bases loaded a lot David Adams you could go into a place and take your chances. But when you talk about that rare possibly rare kind of insert stuff. I'm I'm just a little bit reluctant to just flat out tell you to do that. Because I don't know how big that stuff might be I mentioned last week. Talking with Gary neutrino local dealer at a card show when he's talking about these milk carton. Bills pins -- cards or something from the early sixties super rare Gary's got everything he's he doesn't even have these and you know hundreds if not more dollars -- thing and I'm like okay. -- this is just. I'm gonna go to move on now I I don't know anything about this stuff. Hope -- helped. 8030550. We'll get to some calls on some different subjects and looking forward that that'll be right after sports I'm Mike show let's go to Dan now with the up.
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Welcome back to the hobby I might show I'll be here tomorrow with post game coverage of that game the bills and browns. For those -- and it's a good number I'm really proud of that that listen to the show on line from other parts of the country. We've been talking pretty much all week about the status of the bills coach and whether or not he'll be fired soon. That -- is not a one period that you wanna go to work I mean when when that's the topic -- Yesterday last couple days we've talked a lot about. Whether or not the bills will make that change and whether or not they should. And I'm I'm in thinking like in on not a fan of the coach but. What do they really gain by firing on the have to pay him all the money anyway or that won't they really game right now by doing that. But some of they would I would gain I'll be able to like enjoy my job more because talking about.
The coach getting fired every day. Is just it's monotonous it's kind of boring. And -- I would like to hope for better so I'm you know but if I'm allowed to. Interject some like personal. Labor into it there's one reason my kind of hope they do it just end the whole conversation. I'll be here tonight to actually about -- just get a get a place here I mean get a place to sleep. I'll be here tonight for hockey pre and post game sabres are in Nashville all right back to the hobby let's go to Scott now hi Scott.
Are you doing mark okay. I -- hysterical. Story. From the ninety's early nineties for a good card collecting. At the time baseball's Kris was this guy named R&B and topple us. He was supposed to be the next -- Lawrence. There's medic urged them because. Like I can you -- could constitute a port -- and plastic -- cover you know. I thought I was regular net investment it turned out to be the biggest postal card collecting history.
Yeah up pretty much he's he's on that list Brian Taylor another picture from. From back then the Yankees drafted them and he was supposed to be great and you know with pitchers you learned your lesson right I mean with pitchers he can't predict. With sports you can't predict with pitchers especially high school league pitchers. So.
You I was just going to ask you you still have all of it. You do. Did you you might have heard a few weeks ago I had a friend in here who has a met no -- collection like that. And he's just got everything you could have I mean -- pants. He went all go away on met no oaks and he still got element. All right thank you Scott Todd van topple the ninety's. Here's how and I I don't know if you can really appreciate. How much this sad news. But I'll do my best year my father is not a sports fan at all. Not a sportsman. At all.
And he knew that by the time I was in my high school years. Not only was I avidly into collecting cards and oftentimes it was he or my mother usually who was paying for them. From my -- Nice of them do that but. He knew also that it was more than just a habit for me like I was obsessed with them and I was starting to think about. The idea of making money off of you know he came home from one from work one day and sort of arrived at that that this is more than just you know buying got I mean this is about. Maybe this could be about making money. That appeals to him he's not sportsmen but making money appeals to him of course so. We started like bond with that how do we make money at this and one night this might have been like 88 or 89. One night we were watching just flipping through the channels. By then you had to -- had fifty channels it was just mind blowing. You had three all those years or four or five and then now the now you have cable and while like I've got fifty channels. They were just flipping through and we stopped when we saw cards being shown on the home shopping network. If it was called that I don't know but the home shopping network and you have these you know these guys. And they're just they're just. Telling you how incredible this value is -- it was for classic -- classic. Like by chance. Classic cards they were at yellow ones read I think different colors and they're just you know of a new baseball set that came out. Just like all these other ones were talking about earlier star picks and these different -- These classic cards came out 8089 maybe. And I just remember my father lighting up.
Please. You've got that we've got to do this we've got to buy these and he just. It was never like this in my house we've got the bodies -- Baseball cards. Okay that. Chirac -- I mean -- I -- like my tongue is hanging out at this yes you're right we. You'd need to buy these guards absolutely. You're so right that you're so right. So we did I mean we ordered that right there on QVC maybe it was QVC. We -- these classic cards and they came in the mail it was all exciting in the but okay and then he would -- door open them whatever you do keep -- do not open these are. Okay dad. You're right.
So. I'd probably still have those somewhere I might have opened them along the way I probably that still limos there totally worthless. I mean they could they could be. I could go into I could go a -- hundred card shops. I could spend an entire month. Driving the card shops with -- had a thousand album I don't but let's say I had a thousand of these classic archer 2000. I could drive I could spend an entire month. Looking for a place that would give me a quarter. -- I would fail. And in 1989 we had it all figured out mean everything was going to make us rich you are there right some of you remember these these moments ago Todd -- topple. I had another guy. But I didn't really know is a friend of of -- and I was in college and he knew I was in the collecting I was still in this mode by ninety. Or 91. Mean we're still like everybody was gonna get rich. So. He had these for some reason he had these Syracuse basketball cents. And they were like twelve cards each Jim -- time in the players Derrick Coleman. 1215 cards each and he said you know he says I've got twenty of these Syracuse basketball sets do you want them. You know for yourself I'm thinking to myself on the body -- these basketball sets to borrow money. To buy these are these basketball set and sell them to my friends who like Syracuse order collectors and I'm gonna get rich. Richard gonna make 100 dollars in mobile so I was never very savvy business but yes. These it'll how many do you want to I want a ball spoke I. I did like a might have even got my first credit card for this reason and bought all these basketball sets Syracuse basketball. Derrick Coleman. Sherman Douglas. There were some some other guys are just. I want them all. So got a totally worthless. I think. Here's Kevin with -- is now hi Kevin.
Well hi there to get old Jim sorry. -- Well you're -- you. I'd vote a couple of weeks ago that it found the atom my out there and it he would probably tired enough. We have to find you know yeah. I'm at a couple quick questions for you wanted out. -- I'd better. Write down. Under the -- went to crack the street from my uncle. And it's a quandary -- dedicated to --
I want I'd recommend you go to PSA card dot com it's the biggest company for that. If you ever were to sell them try to sell them on line you would need authentication. To be able do it so they'll be some information for -- there.
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But some know -- email -- more questions show as CH OPP. At WGR 550 dot com or can also write to the hobby at WGR 550. Dot com frank is next -- frank.
Ago. Remotely that QB accretive by a router or. Like law apply now that are like -- do you know or. That I can remember that -- rebel belt but well. It all rise in. Abilities we all be coal and oil yet. I'd -- will do you. Predict the hard. -- Do you. Like corporate powers Specter and.
Why wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if some of that stuff held up I don't know I don't know -- I know that there are certain those kind of cards that are out there and if you're dealing with the very beginning of of a phenomenon. That those their there's a chance of that but I'm really I'm speaking out of -- I don't really know but oh yeah like you're saying thank you frank a lot of those baseball cards you know. I just remember classic Pacific Dan -- mentioned pro set. And you just remember thinking this is the so easy. Look at look what happens you buy cards and then. -- in five years they're worth triple this is just so we easy.
It's considered -- cream cry oh yeah. Sent -- ten point 991 the one thing about prose that is they were very good looking cards I thought I mean that the photography filled out the card. It was an adventure he writes I like those cards a lot agreed Lebanese -- IJ.
They might get really -- it was sincere thank you. I just wanted to say. I shared a special bond with my dad grownup. And really meant a lot to. Collect cards and he taught me to collect cards tops. Was normally the brand that we choose. Go to baseball card chose. And just out by a few. Cards of players that we liked not necessarily that they were. You know any greater. Or better high priced. He was a Dennis Miki anger or not. And -- future of Iowa and didn't speak it was kind of from his area. So. He and I would always look for -- baseball card chosen and I would be looking for. Willie McGee can see is my fair player ground -- and but the whole point it was. Special bar and that we had and and just to. You know look for certain cards that we like to doesn't necessarily -- to be opponents Wagner. Ever.
Yet it's a good point thank -- jail like that I like that angle it is. There there's value in a book. But then there are. Other kinds of values and that's a lot of what. Has made collecting fun for people through the years is the the relationships in the memories for share. Thank you 8030550. Is the number if you wanna be next I'm -- show this is the hobby on WGR. I might show welcome back to the hobby here on WGR Sports Radio 550 and WGR 550. Dot com. My friends that bases loaded in Cheektowaga have contacted me about -- the the guy who called up with all the bill sets. Sorry don't remember his name right now but he was talking about these certain kind of insert or special cards with bills players on them that aren't exactly from the sets the we remember like 69 for instance. Ike I've not going to be able to tell exactly the details here because I'm still not clear from the messages and getting but. One of my friends at bases loaded Jeff says he was on the show two weeks ago he says that a certain card that was mentioned does -- it is in a book. Night when we talk about book values. To things one. Although the based cards are the stars at least not all the based cards but all the stars are going to be in any given packet football magazine. That you -- Now they do with Beckett they have a a magazine for reeks of the big sports in the they have another. Called I think it's called sports card monthly. Which basically just updates the prices on them the recent cards last 234 years in each sport. If you had an old football collection you'd wanna get the -- football it'll have a price for commons. And it'll have a price for each big star player. A caller was mentioning. Cards that didn't sound to me like anything that would be. In the price guide but I might have been wrong so the guys -- bases are saying that 169 card with bland on it and -- be -- bills player also. Does actually show up in the in the book. With at least baseball and hockey but I imagine there's a football want to have just seen the ones for baseball hockey. There is what's called a manual that comes out Beckett makes. A bigger a bigger ball like an encyclopedia. Kind of size ball and it has. The listing for each -- all the commons are listed out and it's all also all those kind of wacky insert sets. So say if you had baseball cards from the seventies and you had some. Like from those cupcake boxes hostess cupcakes or -- coffee cakes and you caught a mile. Those would be listed in the big thick. Annuals but not in the regular magazines so. If you have a lot of stuff that is unusual. You might get lucky finding details about the camera prices more than details. In the in the big books the second thing is -- two things the second thing is. When you see those prices don't expect of course to be able to get that money for your part there are certain things you have to factor into it. And that will bring your value down if it's anything but perfectly may come down those are the prices that. A dealer. Hand if theoretically. Sell the card for. But nobody does that mean dealers don't. If a card is booked at ten dollars. You look at a magazine you'll see two columns of prices may be a card says four dollars and ten dollars I don't know who's working on to the the the prices on the left but if you go to the price on the right EC ten bucks. You go into a store. You see a card in a case they look it up ten dollars they're not gonna ask you for ten dollars probably they shouldn't. They might ask you for five or six so the dealer is probably selling for five or six. Now ask yourself. -- what -- the dealer paid to get the card.
Say the dealer paid. Three or four dollars for it to that there can be a mark up that they can make money on the deal. Now ask yourself what is the deal like that's the same thing is what is the dealer paying you. If you go into a dealer and try to sell your stuff. So you're you're still looking at a card. That you have that you might want to sell and it says ten dollars in the book you might think depending on condition as well you might be able to get two or three bucks for. So. Don't just you know it's naive to just add up all the cards in your collection and then figure out the values ago this is what. I could get from my collection might be able to get a quarter of that or third. Maybe you'll higher depending on how how extensive your collection is. And how how many big items there are. Let's kid -- here before we wrap it up I bill.
The more like are. You. I think I don't know this earlier appointment right direction I have remarked that actually years ten years ago I have a bunch of sporting books Sports Illustrated but producer excuse. Yankees magazines and some aren't very good condition most were very who should have but I don't. 78000. Magazines. One while I was wondering. Bring magazine which is no obligation or forties I'm a a lot of stuff like that you know market order. You ready please interest in besides outline.
Well you know I'm I'm not here to just plug for -- bases loaded but I will tell you that's that's a good option I would say. Bomb there -- protruding Cheektowaga. I would say you could also like I told a caller earlier to wait until the next card show comes up. And not the UD I expect it'll logged thousands of magazines into a card show -- you could maybe if you had it all in writing a basic idea what you had. You could get you could just ask around. And get some ideas about what to. What your stuff is worth but I would tell you that you have probably you have a pretty valuable collection. There there is a market for that.
Okay -- nobody locally no bases loaded is local currency to -- called me. Oh it's all.
Okay. Well then. In May be general David Adams would their cards.
That's the that's the best that's the place I would advise you to but if they if they were uninterested. I would say then take take my other advice bill and try and try to show route. Because there are people at the local shows and -- and they're not a lot of local shows but there are people at at the show is who won were selling old magazines. So. Be patient. And I would say beyond there there would be a good option for you there. Maybe maybe email me I'll think about that some more and see if I can come up with another idea for a lot of time out of time though for today. Thanks for listening we'll have another fun show -- on the hobby next Saturday morning Mike show have a great weekend.