Card collecting hats he used to do it when you were a kid then you wanna way to college and -- through all your cards a way I heard that one before well that was then and this is now card collecting -- big business now cards have your heroes that your -- are still out there and sometimes they -- six figures you can spend hundreds of some new products and still make a profit how does it all works these days welcome to -- hobby WG yards -- new show created to keep collectors up to speed on the latest trends and let everyone -- just how vast and lucrative collecting -- can beat -- WG yards most avid collector Mike show.
Beckett baseball October of 09. And when the price -- starts you've got about a 250. Page price guides section. By the time you get to page six -- into the eighties. And then the rest of the 244. Pages -- card since 1985. -- mean it's just. That's the way it's gone but the first couple of pages the old stuff there's a famous baseball set -- a football set just like it from the late forties a -- at some of you may know that. 48 -- football 49 -- football there's even some confusion about which years they should be attributed to. But in the price -- I think it's 48 for football and its 49 for baseball my great uncle cliff payment is a short print in the set. But got most of his cards if I want. A card from him from that 49 -- set because he is a short print in PSA one. Meaning that it's probably got a quarter torn off crease down the middle. Bikes spoke card I'm gonna pay 300 dollars for. In that condition so and in he won 34 games in the major -- Big set. But when I can't. I can't entirely get my hands around. When I look at the 49 -- settler you know it's really about that's edit any set like -- from the old old days famous popular part sets. A look at that the PSA magazine degraded. Card price magazine. And -- see all the listings of reported sales. Of cards from from those sets. Whether it's on eBay or an auction houses or whatever. NIC you know 3003010008002000. Just. Dozens. Of reported sales last three years cards from that set for example. That just command huge prices and here is where like I I get that. There are people who collect cards I get that there are people who have money. I just I haven't fully grasped that there are that many people who. Have money that are spending it on parts like that. Reported sales L zarrella. Of meddling outfielder from those days probably short print after -- so looking at this. Reported sales 3600. Dollars alternately and simply asking. Who is spending 3600. Dollars on -- zarrella. In decent condition from 49 -- Who is that guy I don't know that guy I don't know a bottom. I can't even guess who he has. I don't mean by name I just mean like. I know some people with money I know some people -- of the hobby. There's not a real on a meeting place. Four for those people most times so there the point is. There have to be on enough people out there who spend sic money. On and on old cards and it's not just because they're buying Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb and Jackie Robinson. -- there are a lot of people enough to make this all work. That spend big money on -- guerrilla and cliff -- and even. And I think that's great. But I just -- about the other day I couldn't fully get my arms around like. Really that's happening. Because I don't know anybody like that but there must be enough people doing it. That time you know keep things going and I'm glad for that maybe it's you I'm here today I'd love to hear from summit via the phone number is 8030550. I just before we started I happen to be looking at the forecast for the Bronx tonight. And it's ugly it's warm at least in New York today. But for game six of the ALCS. Tonight it is just rain all day windy heavy rain. And then tonight they have some isolated thunderstorms love when the forecast reads like this rain this morning then rain.
Kindergartners talked but before the forecasts often talk like that so you've got a mess in New York for game six. And -- from a hobby standpoint I was thinking about the couple that the players the teams that are left. The the Yankees the Phillies are in and the Yankees are still in good shape but they've got one more win in the last time they were this far they lost four straight. To Boston after leading 30 so it's no given that got eighty Pettit tonight at the the very beatable pitcher for for the angels but I'm thinking about Joba Chamberlain. Mention him yesterday on on my weekday show. And I've got a brand who is. Semis interested in collecting I've tried to you know I can talk about this a lot trying to get my friends to find the appeal. And this one guy I did and he was in the cards a kid like many of us and got back into it and he. He identified. Joba Chamberlain. As the guy he was going to go after. So he bought. Able a lot of Joba Chamberlain cards that was a hot rookie card when he came out whether it's -- to different parts came out for job August 20076. Or seven. He. He thought this is my guy Yankee fan. Hot prospect. And somebody could kind of start brand new. Did have to back pedal like -- Jeter he'd have to go back in 92 and that the that's a bad idea necessarily but you know it was a it was a neat new fresh. Idea for him to get into the hobby so he he bought a lot of Joba Chamberlain in this week he's a little bit of I don't know I don't know if this is gonna work. You did you get like that as a collector with certain of your prospects I didn't. Pick out certain hockey players well like I committed I guess with Paul Stastny and Shea Weber. But that was only after having collected quite a bit of their stuff just by opening product. So I had a lot of stuff that I opened already done. Pretty much vested in many of the big hockey rookies last 34 years. So I look at a lot of them this way I know for example open tar with the kings is off to a very good start so is his team and that's good. Because of got a lot of scope to our stuff when he somebody that people people said was going to be really good. And now it's starting to work for him it seems so I look at that and thank god is good for me. -- I don't know watching the game the other night the guys are talking about him losing velocity hold easy. You know they moved him around about a messed them up with the bullpen and starting back and forth. Joba rules easily -- throw this many pitches he's coming out of games he started in the third inning even though it's 11. And my friend is worried that this in not only because -- Yankee fan but because this investment. That he made. He started to wonder about it and my prediction is that they will deal Joba Chamberlain in the next couple of years. Because if he's losing velocity at this young an age. Then. That's a bad sign. And our office because they moved him around so much -- exactly what the reason would be. But I could see Yankee team it's pretty good when evaluating prospects digging Chamberlain and eventually come to the conclusion this is more trouble than it's worth. And moving it and if they do that. Regardless of how how good a pitcher. He is at the time when he's pitching for his new team if these traded. That's something for the collector to take very seriously in regard to what his investment is. How much of an investment he's made really if he's traded to Kansas City. It doesn't matter too much how good he is I guess he could win Cy Young awards and you'd be all right but -- it's huge whether it's baseball or any sport. Football it's the least relevant but certainly the other Big Three sports it means a lot where your -- place. And there's no better example than in hockey. There are to -- some of the best. Of the best example for this I can think of his Kovalchuk in Atlanta you've got guys who. Even though they're teens aren't very good are great players. And there on the their these markets like Atlanta in his case. And there's there's a hobby following but it's just so much less. Of what it would be. If he played in a real hockey hotbed so. You can get into Ilya Kovalchuk and you'll -- top petition for his stuff his cards price all right he's a star. But the fact that he's on Atlanta. Renders him so much less relevant to a lot of hockey collectors. Then he would he would rank it be played in Montreal and in what I've done a couple times. Is it might be guilty of sometimes over. Reacting to that but. Webber in Nashville. For me. When I started to collect some of his cards I thought well this is this is perfect because he's good he's young he's got a huge upside anyplace for the Nashville Predators which means some day he -- That and that that'll be good for me that's what I'm that's what I'm focused on with them. So with hockey coming in you know if you follow the NHL you have half a dozen. Hockey markets that are just so tepid. They're good players you mean you want them if you're collecting their cards you want them out of there. You watch it wherever out of Nashville you want Kovalchuk out of Atlanta he does even really matter of those teams get hot and win. Because you know that it's it's not likely -- my opinion is it's not likely. That those those markets really take off from their summer better than others. Even San Jose. You want your guys in Canada. Or maybe Philadelphia I don't know really know how many good American hockey markets there already more Detroit is number one. For collectors Detroit is number what I'm talking about. How many people fans of those teams. Our into the hobby to we have with the rip the Red Wings work Blackhawks work the sabres I suppose work. And then may be the flyers the Rangers. After that you have the big names like Crosby Ovechkin Pittsburg in Washington. So there they rank. But ideally you want your your guys in a big hockey market in if you happen to think. Shea Weber Ilya Kovalchuk and they're younger guys two on those teams Bryan little Atlanta pavlik the goalie. You happen to like those guys as. As players and you wanna collect them you what you want them off those teams that's maybe an obvious point -- you do. Sobbing and a job we'll see what happens with -- we'll see what happens but this game tonight game six ALCS it is a yucky. Forecast. In New York. -- those of you are into any thing new hobby wise look to hear from you this morning 8030550. The number we talk a little bit about exquisite basketball before it came out. Have any of you dabbled in some of the new stuff and had luck or maybe a lack of -- I have not been in that much much in the way of new products in a while I've been focused on acquiring a couple of older sets. That that's taking up a lot of my -- a lot of my energy a lot of my money. But I put toward collecting so I haven't really bought anything new and awhile and part of what I like to do here for -- is talk about some of the new products. Did quite a bit about quite a bit of that rather about a month ago. But time haven't been. Too much into it lately so if you got an opinion and you can help us out with that anything new baseball hockey football what have you let us know about it 8030550. The number. I've got time your calls here I've got Tracy heckler from Beckett coming up in about ten minutes. And then we'll have time for some more opinions and your calls here at the end of the hour today on the hobby you can send me an email any time the hobby at WGR 550. Dot com 8030550. Is the phone number here is Jim -- Jim.
Like. I'm kind of who was in this he inherited in -- inherited I mean I've found itself in the basement and from my uncle. A set of calling from so -- for the 62 and 63 peaceful use them. And on they're you know ultimatum medal of -- in May -- why it definitely can. You know baseball players -- cancer. You know they were prevalent these books are given away right and -- did you ever heard of those you know is there any kind of -- those.
You have those are I've heard of them it's not my. I know the post can be big. Is it baseball you have because they think they made them for hockey to.
You're the baseball and we I got a couple years it -- in line in the area in in means 63. And they even have three of them. From there to 62 there are still in me. Plastic wrappers how many do you think you have in total -- eighteen of the to 63 in the thirty. The 62.
I have a feeling that those might be nice what I would do a -- when I say this almost every week it seems. Depending on what what the call is and what people have. I think. When you have something that you can't just easily look up in a price guide Jim. What what you wanna do is checked online I always say eBay first because its chip and massively popular site. Go to eBay and just type in -- search. So lot of or type in points in just try to find as close to what it is you have. As you can. Most people no matter how -- Seemingly obscure whatever it is they have as I mean you're gonna find others like it most the time if they're out there.
I have found in and I mean in -- it looks Whitcomb you know going anywhere from two dollars to ninety dollars from. But my question of these you know how what I find a woman's point of ground here did. I can sell them to you I'd I'd want to get rid of them were not about wanted to kind of you know trying to element is that up. And you know.
There's a few ways to do that that there's a few ways to do that you can't do that on line and trust that if you don't wanna do that he's wanna take them somewhere not have to worry about all that. Then your options are more limited but you can do that you confined collectibles dealer in the area. A sports collectibles a card shop -- if it's. Sports you're talking about and they might have an interest there's no guarantee about that but they might you could also find I mean card shows don't come around. Every week. But there are -- for those that you might be able to take them to a card show you could probably get a deal done there if there if they have any value. You could even list them in the paper. So you have a few options depending on just how are you wanna do it how easy you wanna make it if you if you're number one. This goes for anybody selling anything which is why I'm happy to spends much time on this one specific case. If you wanna get if you're number one priority is to get the most money you can for it. You -- you wanna use the Internet. But -- it's like a really specific to buffalo product or where wherever it is you are. If you go local you might be limiting a little bit how much how much you'll get. But that's not to say you should go with that advice he might just wanna get -- you know. And I'll be Jim. It. Pay if you wanna send me an email to feel free to do that I'd love to see what it is you have -- maybe I can offer you having seen a picture a little bit more specific advice okay.
And what -- okay thank -- down at the hockey games would would bring in bringing it over there to show is that.
That would that would be fine it if if you don't mind hanging on to them while you're at the game you know I usually have a few minutes there so I. I'd love to see him -- notice the old stuff like this. And to me that's the the most fun of all this is just somebody has and you know. Whether it's something that. I might have had in the past or not just need old stuff the better conditions. It's in the more more interesting it is and work -- it is so yeah that's really fun for me. Okay Jim. 8030550. Is the number any time you have something you may or may not be that knowledgeable -- the hobby you can't always. Go to eBay type it in and see what other people are paying for and don't be fooled by just what people are listing. The items for what people want. There's a big difference sometimes between what people want. And what people get so you'll see people go online and just buy it now. Crazy amount and it just sits there forever. You type that you you click that completed listings box on the left then you're gonna see what people are really paying for whatever it is you're searching up. All right Tracy tackler from Beckett coming up stated a hobby talk with Tracy upper deck what happens there anyhow they're doing. Some new products talkin' -- catch up with the big hitter in the hobby Tracy -- that'll be right after this timeout I'm Mike show thanks for being with me this morning. Here on the hop.
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I might show glad to have you along on the hobby this morning. 828. Here in the buffalo area here on WGR. Check us out online WGR 550 dot com we. We boasts I boast as much about our. Streaming audiences are local audience and if you know people out of the area forward to collecting I'd be great to tell them for meeting here -- you've told them about our show. Really with with collecting there are people everywhere who are really into it. But it's not a huge number of people so a lot of times you end up. Needing to connect with people outside the area and I hope that the show can be sort of a common interest for those -- into collecting from wherever you're listening. Tracy tackler joins me now he is the publisher of Beckett sports media we he had Tracy on a couple times we started a year ago. And he's been good enough not only to come -- with me today but to do show where it is what in Dallas like 7:30 in the morning that's that's nice for you it's nice for me. -- I'm so honored thanks Tracy. They Tracey let's just let's catch up on some on some things that have happened in in collecting in the last. Last little while here or longer than that starting with a -- The may be the last time you when I talk to you you gave some some thoughts on -- acquiring Don Ross. The the NBA. Exclusivity license and we talked about how that might how that might go over. Party think they're doing so far and we're do you see it headed.
Well thanks so far they've they've they've done a pretty good job and they obviously have a lot of thomas'. People in place executives in her book the brand management teams the marketing teams and so that they haven't really missed -- be product line. A lot of product that -- Had for years are still being released just but they made a big. Big waves last. About a two or three weeks ago in the site. Kobe Bryant and there with the spokesman of the they'll form and really make weight and actually because. I'm -- Eugene. And he's got. -- Italian -- because it. Is that without -- so. That deal was -- For the Amber's -- and help them. And their goal of creating a more -- Global landscape for the better products -- well like have been released. It would -- these branded product which. Electors know prestige from football for years and so the exact title or expected total I think that they're better. Great foray into -- for.
How about really that the big part of it I think is well that's that's big enough but just what it means to upper deck collectors have been really just. Upper deck has been the hobby company for so long and now they lose the basketball license. -- goes with -- They lose the the MLB which is bigger. So wound. How what -- you seen so far -- that that lets you and can -- have any kind of clue as to what upper what upper deck is going to do about. Having these these license losses.
Well think. Local governments that India is long. Michael Jordan and LeBron James and contract they're gonna do something with basketball whether that. In a basketball product and no logos -- players. Whatever that they pervasive between the opens up in that -- in baseball. We've talked to their folks and they seem pretty adamant that they're -- Proceed in 2010. What -- in terms of they're gonna have a line of baseball on base they have the Major League Baseball Players Association liked and so it. They're entitled to whether they have -- right to. All current players. They don't have the right to it stated. It in LP property Timor and ping the -- here Japanese have produced. I'd like to treat our sworn in in -- even have access with them. It's so so going to be did. They're gonna challenge the system there's a question about that and they're gonna. Literally products and you know I think it'll it'll be extreme attention to see how the marketplace reaction you talk collectors treat them.
Yes it well and that really is there really is the much bigger aspect of this is not just want upper deck decides to do -- make. It's holly -- goes over what do people. Do people care about it and I like the way you put it Tracy said. People of companies have done this before and some have even made it work you know it's like in the area it is revealed that it doesn't often work so. We've known upper deck forever and collectors have been buying so much of upper deck products through the years but. Now it's gonna be harder I think for people to -- you know it's it's gonna be different. And I'm I just can say this as a collector myself. I am almost never interested in the product the don't have that. The official. Sport licenses and it's just way less interest and products mean -- like the team logos the teams are a big part of it so I think they have a very tough job here.
I -- I think a lot of collectors agreed to do another actually think. This will be their last season. What a -- to predict there last season with the it NHL it's right. And so right stop the greatness is thicker they would look back and rpm trivial accounting what in the game -- can put -- you're skiing next fall when. That license terms is so sure.
Yes. Tracy hecklers publisher prospective sports media he joins me Mike show here on the hobby you today. So what quickly let's let's -- tops to me they they get the baseball license. I I think you know top says tops is tops it's been around forever but. Upper deck has made the more exciting more interest staying. And popular products generally through the years here is tops going to step up its game or is it gonna still be tops. And that'll have to do another tried it and I try to put him down so much by that but it's just a different kind of look at the top product the produce -- product last few years.
Isn't it in -- it's traditionally aired originally bought up and it. They they have one of the biggest weapons in the industry and that's their butler in the some people know. Well that is people collect up every year and they're they're excited obviously -- in will be properties incident in Albania. I think they have big plans -- never been a company -- six felt that the real super premium high end stuff the room they make no bones about that picked. They have a few products that have done well nattering at the -- and I don't know what in a predictor of opening America have had passed that right they say it they have plant pedometer retail. Which is big state they have. Plans to troops to help. Bring it back in my in the -- the easiest way most effective way -- having any streamlined limited. Offering it. At retail -- and going to Wal-Mart target Kmart whatever the united and it with a pure hitter in Ramallah in the by action not inundated with. Point five different options.
Yes and that that is a good thing. A good point -- tackler with us from Beckett I'm -- show thanks for listening everybody today. Tracy -- just share with you. I keep seemingly through this show coming to these sort of -- making these observations and sometimes they just. Sort of take over my head and they might sound really dumb more obvious spot. Here's today's just looking through a -- price guide one of yours and and also sports market report from PSA. And I happen to be looking at the 4049. -- baseball -- And just -- the long list of the it was in the back it. -- price got this happened a long list of reported sales of cards from that set. Now I know it's a popular set I know that it's super tough one to find in nice condition I know all the basics. But when I looked at each listing individually I just could not believe. How much money. Is thrown at those carts and the name that. Kept sticking with me is -- gorilla like may be a short printed -- permits that but just you know an obscure player from those years and and I live in my little world here we do the show but you know I'm in in my own collection I've got a couple of friends who dabble in it but I just do I just. Can't get my arms around the fact that there are enough people out there. Who are buying. Medium grade L -- 49 -- cards for one example. Two to really command those kind of prices do you ever just sort of sees something like that and -- shake your head that. What he's out there in this hobby and how much money some people are throwing down.
Absolutely and you know what commit to the top of the public segment the passion -- the country amazing but that that particular examples that they carton grated. Targeted you know there there are. These certain number of debt collectors who are currently trying to upgrade the conditions have there been threats and and so we actually crazy money and I are needed to retrieve those guys go at the same cardinal is. Iraq that's true. And then properties well it is it would have clearly. More on the modern art market there that. Folks who -- LeBron came with it would be Carter certainly emblem. And they're selling for. 91011000. Dollars. -- which is talkin' to ours our basketball. Mark yesterday this is. You estimated by increases are fair game and so that I think there are those people out there who will stop at nothing. Within reason to get the cart they want and in a condition that they want.
Obviously this would very Tracy but and you. Can you stereotype who that collector is is that it is that the 49 -- guy the vintage guy. Or even LeBron guy is it an old man who collected the set a long time ago and is now spending some of his retirement money your money from the market. Is it someone does the young -- who just you know is. Looking for something to spend money on his real money is a credit I mean I'm asking -- some some kind of may be tough questions to answer but is is there an image when you think of that person. Or those people who are competing for those cards and spending thousands doing it. Is there an image that you see.
Well that did there a couple of I think covered -- of murdered there be older than did the guy who who have collected this set. And has announced some discretionary income -- Arab network it's just money he's -- all over the years. Good and bad news. And -- in the other one should be -- be -- car dealers looking to get back Arctic. What people who want these -- cooped in. -- that the help of the USA. These are looking for you -- market its final -- your problem. It's -- you have. You have those people -- some middleman -- who want to market in grab the cards.
For a right we talked to Dmitri Young on the show last year and he he might be someone you talk about that's an example that he had a guy. Who he hires to buy his stuff forum I heard actually that he was. I don't know if I could trust this information may be you know I heard that he was. Not necessarily selling but slowing down a little bit have you heard that.
I haven't heard that but I I was impressed by what you guys and oh yeah. We properly inspect it because we look for. Correctly to collect and go out on her because -- shift that it's not so openly doing it now and so whatever we. Here got a guy like Dmitri Young again excite them to -- that have a passion and in the acknowledges. Is really impressive.
And he -- I think you're still find that interview on her website Brad Ziegler to from the -- who collected his own cards. As well as of one former teammate if -- is and one former opponent of his from his amateur years Ryan Howard and Albert Pujols not that bad. Choices there. I I would say. Okay -- it was nice to catch W thank you. You're welcome and I will Tracy tackler upper deck are -- Beckett sorry. Just looking at something from one of the -- magazines and I happen to blurt out upper -- heckler from Beckett sports. Publishing. Expert. And we'll have him on again once in awhile like to just catch up and talk about the big topics in the hobby so I appreciate him coming on with me. All lines are open again 8030550. You wanna talk about cards and may be something you have we can talk about that I would love that. Lines open I might show here on the hobby be right back I might show welcome back to the hobby -- live in studio today you can give me call at 8030550. To talk about collecting memorabilia cards like that. Lines are open your about the next six minutes and then will be done for today the started to get into little baseball earlier talking about the yankees' Joba Chamberlain. And the the game tonight yankees and angels weather permitting. But the Phillies I think the Phillies are are in great shape. Try to put -- in a sort of a hobby perspective here. Boy if they win again. Not that it -- Lee Howard Rollins they're they're begin field are not already popular in the hobby but. Back to back World Series titles. You know what they say it's you can't take that away from them. And I would say that too. Just thinking that that that might lead to an uptick in in their stuff the thing about it it's -- you can never assume that because you wonder if their futures have already been factored into their prices the whole. Rookie card market is is really speculative the reason Sidney Crosby cards are so expensive from the time he enters the NHL. All about what he's going to do when he gets there so when Crosby wins the Stanley Cup there's not really a bomb in his stuff. Because people were already sort of counting on that it's already factored in. Back to back World Series though -- the Phillies pull that off Ryan Howard. Hamels. If he's good again he's been more erratic this year -- for sure Rollins. Those guys all have a real status in the history of the game. I heard this week only three. National League teams have ever won back to back World Series we're talking about more than a hundred years. Old old New York Giants. Very old Chicago Cubs 1907190. Wait. The giants were in the twenties the thirties. And the big red machine thing about that the status the big red machine -- though I mean in in terms of baseball -- in terms of collecting. You've got hall of famers all over the place plus Pete Rose. Perez makes Hall of Fame he was always a borderline candidate. He played on a a famous legendary. Team that won back to back World Series titles. That might have been the reason why he got in. Morgan back to back MVPs. In that team has a real legacy. And if the Philadelphia Phillies win again they will become only the fourth National League franchise ever to win back to back World Series. Which which bodes well for a lot of those guys and for people who collect their stop plus there are -- real good sports market so. I might think gum you know the Sidney Crosby comparison is fine when Crosby enters the NHL as. The most hyped prospect since Mario Lemieux with -- and Wayne Gretzky. Of course Stanley cups and the Hart trophy and all that'll be factored in but. Not necessarily Chase Utley. So you've got time you've got some potential there I think with the Phillies and if they beat the Yankees doing it even better. Want to I wanna give a plug to sports card forum up a very good website here. I am you know we get calls like we did earlier today and I always steer you toward eBay. I'm not sure I really ought to do that eBay is fine it's just that it's an honest. Way of you know I'm thinking about how to answer your question and eBay is is such a massive. Marketplace. That Tom you know you're you'll get. An idea. Certainly of what people are paying for things on the day you you know took it works. But there's no particular dedication to collecting from -- mean eBay is for every. And sports card forum we had the the man who put the website up. Originally. On the show along time ago would be good did get them on again it's been awhile. That site is really good anybody who is in the collecting at all. Once cards wants to on load. Trade even eBay there's no trading -- that mean you can. Look up a seller's name and send him an email just kind of go around through the backdoor. And see if he's got something he would trade what he wants something for what he's selling whatever. But sports card forum. Patterns itself to people who want to make deals. It's really good it's really all sports. Lots of it seems honest collectors who urges their for the right reasons. It might be the ideal website. -- What we like about the hobby you wanna be able to trust -- which wanna be able to trust. Who it is that you're dealing with and I think I would say you could almost always do that but sometimes. Sometimes not there are probably pitfalls with sports card forum to. But Tom I I think it's a really good site anybody's in the collecting should should go to sports card forum dot com. Any sport you want all kinds of different options there great pictures people post their pictures of what it is they're looking to trade or sell. And boy this got there's a lot of content there too which is which is big. The only thing I had in mind to get to today that I haven't yet. Is what to do with your collection sometimes people ask me a lot of times -- me where I can sell something. And that's great other types one and oh wanna I wanna get it out of the attic. And display it what are the things that -- we talked a little bit about autograph cards in that respect last week but I am today I had a mind warping and about. Binders -- boxes just how what is to make a nice display in your home didn't really have very much time to get into that now is we're about out of time. But but maybe next week I've on the binders guy became one of a couple of years ago I had boxes but. -- Going to them and looking at them and binders were much easier. And more. User friendly if you will so I put a lot of Mike most of my good stuff into binders even though takes up a lot more space. That works for me. All right what do think Tracy tackler for being on and also you for listening today dank cave for producing the show I'll be back here next Saturday with another edition of the hobby I might show have a great weekend.
