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Thurman Thomas EXTRA POINT - Hour 1

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Mon, 26 Oct 2009|

Thurman Thomas joins the Bulldog to breakdown the Bills win over the Panthers on Buffalo Football Monday

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  1. Terrence McGee0:40
  2. Josh Reed22:27
  3. Andre Johnson6:26, 8:40
  4. DeAngelo Williams4:13
  5. Byron Leftwich7:56
  6. Dick Jauron15:08
  7. Lee Evans28:18
  8. Drew Brees7:51
  9. college football24:40
  10. Thurman Thomas2:43

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I don't know that I want my quarterback back and in the defense of secondary. I mean George Wilson's got two picks in two weeks in birdies like. I mean at that at the revelation this guy five interceptions and three starts. I mean I don't know who. Who I wanna take out if if Whitner and and Bryant's not get healthy. Leo they wouldn't -- Delighted at this.

You don't wanna take anybody. I -- those guys it just keep playing a little QB regular blaze the thing about it is that. These guys George Wilson engineers bird you know -- make him blaze out there even you know farce is making plays a mean he's set announced the government yesterday. Terrence McGee had a great game yesterday. In it's. Is one of those deals where now they can plug in Whitner and whatever but the guys that they have on -- field right now have to stay on the -- You have to find some way get Whitner is Scott back in there I mean. -- that missile the rotation. Know what they're doing right now on how well these guys a plan but. You definitely keep the guys have been out there that have been making plays and indefinitely George Wilson and there's bird definitely have to be on a football field I -- like they make plays out.

I would think Byrd for -- Wilson I guess at an agency my way clear to two to -- to -- helping you put him maybe back in its strong safety. And just mix Wilson and and like nickel and dime stuff or whatever but. Up -- bird I don't think I wanna see the bills play a game if he's healthy without him. Article like every snap I mean even though he needs some work and run. Our our way out but. I mean if you're if you're your talking balls like that new you that's -- that's the difference maker in the Bill Clinton had a real difference maker though in a while on -- lets you.

what teams are teams are looking at that too they're definitely looking and say okay we can we can't throw the ball port this guy. 'cause that was he's done over the last three weeks filed an inception in my digits and so yet you you should change will look at that in when you know what when when you have a guy who's. Like bird you know if -- a shortened the feel for the office. You know it they they don't really they might not wanna take as many dip deep shots and they usually do because he's back there you can tell he's. These all sort of feel like you say early -- work on his -- brought him but you know what I leave that up to the front seven because and it's only gonna write a bag in the second there.

Here's the front seven thought right it's obviously -- the the two big plays last week didn't it didn't aren't they did a nice job against a good running team yesterday in Carolina. Last week against the jets and that the that the two big runs that Jones had. Having -- may have taken a wrong. Wrong angle along route one ranking right he may have hurt them let you know obviously took the ball away a couple of times and I think we don't -- I would take that beyond certainly that trade off. -- at this point Thurman Thomas is here phone lines are available for you 8030550. Is the number 1888552550. And you can reach me via the email -- at WGR. 550 dot com Clooney denying the final score tell me -- screeners and I'm thinking and between 98 right -- three and then you guys got hot. And enrolled in the playoffs and that's probably the closest we could we could come to approximating what's going on over there now right with a couple wins in a row after. Seemingly hit bottom one in four and 63 loss to Cleveland. To tell me what your best. Best guesses. -- may -- you know more than just to guests but what what where the team's mindset is at right now.

Well I think the mindset of these guys have been you know have been taken to an eleven -- those guys have been hearing. About how bad their plans -- not playing good football. And hoping is a moron talking about fire and head coach. Just all types -- is not kitchen abroad -- and I think you get to a point where you know the guys -- only here are some of this stuff and they get to a point where they say you know what. Enough is enough and I just saw on the ocean date in the Carolina game of these guys with a flat around sort of ball. I mean they actually force. Which -- it was just something good they force the campus of pro football yesterday I mean they shut down Iraq.

You look at the last four games. To hit Java Stewart then that office -- DeAngelo Williams. Do people out of thing and they will come with his game I have -- 250 yards rushing out our front thought and they shut it now I mean they show I mean George Wilson was down on. But he can tackle those I mean it was a good game clam -- Mary so. I think you know when when you win like the guys is after the game I heard a couple of guys say you know what. Winning is a good feeling and they haven't had that -- locker room for a long time and when you win two games on the road. Which a lot of people probably thought they were gonna lose. You know we do it builds confidence in that football team and I think. The somebody's -- players playing out of position given an opportunity to go out and show what they can do. I think that builds confidence what those guys you know on that the coaches can rely on you now you can go after you can make plays. It puts you in any situation and I guess it would it was an open nominal. Performers yesterday I thought from from the defense and especially the second there.

How -- how much. Do you think. The heat Jauron was taking is a factor in in in other point that they are they playing did you think. The billboard had any impact you think the fact that they they felt like maybe Jauron was gonna get candy didn't. Got them in a good place where they feel like they wanna we wanna respond for their coach or do you think it's overstate.

I think this kind of always stated that you know what he could you go want to try to win every single football game no matter of the coaches on a hot seat and whether it's. Mike Tomlin or whatever you go to try to win every single football game and I just think you know that these same realized that you know what they they have a good attitude right now -- these last couple of big -- you go out you've played a game. You play the game as well as you possibly can and good things start happening to you when you when you play hard and he sure a lot of the emotional football feel -- I just I just hopefully. Think that is can be something that will continue to happen. -- Houston next -- because I know Garrett QB that he was on -- hot seat this year and they're for the three so I I just think they're the guys have just said you know what. We can play better and they have employment.

And maybe the bill would catch a break of Andre Johnson is unable to play just pull up here he suffered a chest injury and lose the drop he went to the hospital evaluated don't think they -- had anything to say about it I've been seen in this morning. Yet I wouldn't expect to be much. Even as the week goes on with -- pretty quiet about. What's gonna happen there but that -- head trauma and wanted to best receivers in the game and I think there's nobody knows about gap -- if he's if he's even limited or just not available at all bomb that could dumb -- could be a big deal. For the bills they come home a week before the bye to play Houston the first of November 1 o'clock these 4 o'clock games are overweight or for now unless something. Flex schedule wise happens in the -- could move because somebody else gets moved nine timer the bills get hot and often when the games in -- world that they can move to a nineteen. I set it. Yes no not really you. -- a New Orleans noise he -- expect -- they had was and how they were down Miami boy reported three yeah. Daddy -- the -- they can do some things. It does it's interesting you mention them. The bills passed the -- now I mean they're taking the ball way that makes all the difference in the world but I mean you go back. Really you got a half against New England where Brady just I mean just carve them carve them. Other than that. I mean who's really done business through the arrogance this team and it Drew Brees did not have any kind of date. -- Chad Henne didn't do much of anything I I -- Byron Leftwich because there's an even worth mentioning. Anderson was a joke Sanchez -- and then and -- you know yesterday DelHomme is guy he threw for some yards but. -- they're doing that a respectable job they're doing -- just by date is you know.

And in the end and they're getting that did the -- gift interception is that you have to get pressure on quarterback. 44 -- like that but you can just see that. He was scared that you wanna throw interceptions you just didn't look right in. Yet you know what they haven't. But you know -- jobless -- and as we can easily and NFL it does now. Touchdown passes and you don't know what you say you don't know of Andre Johnson going to be there but you know they do have. A run of bag that I -- Slaton yep fans quest I just shake guy can catch a ball out of a -- field so. -- you looking at them but but I think what -- football team you know what. You need a little heat to be put on some. -- give should motivate it -- issue motivated now -- player of the what are sick and tired of me Aaron. A ball almost of this -- going on the last couple weeks and one in July got a contract extension and I'll let. You know you put a little heat or somebody you play a little bit better because you -- silence everybody and I just think. That this football team right now yep. The last two weeks. They haven't been pretty one is but they've been wins and a -- if anybody's out there that you got is really hard to try to get a win.

And a National Football League on the road two weeks in a role in to a hostile environments Dick -- be addressing the media in about 45 minutes from. And added it's waste time predicting what he'll say. About the quarterback situation but what do you think about the quarterback situation. Edwards has come profit and cautioned last year when he suffered a concussion. By the second week after Indiana body and then the next week he played against San Diego. There's no predicting certainly want his help was going to be like but if they have hypothetically he were to get a clean bill help -- be able to practice by Wednesday. What would you do it quarterback and what do you think due to land will do a quarter.

I have no idea when Dick Toro would do but if eyeing the head coach it fits days and these days and there equity he doesn't they I mean it is numbers were in grade eleven out when it's Hoover 120 some yard work. I mean capacity brutally for a touchdown. Mean do you think trip would make that -- I've been cinema at the wide right so right spot just. In order was blow the ball I mean he drilled it in. Between two guys so yeah you know what -- they would fits. I you know what you can't really. You know it's hard to try to judge concussions. And with Houston comin' up and then you have the bye we you know regular triple a bit more time to. You know to get healthier whatever but I I think right now you stick with. You state would Fitzpatrick and you know I noticed you know -- in an affair is never. You never lose your job and caused injury. And but you know if it can mean report ought to just name any -- this game to figure beat. Houston next week -- the chains thought.

Yeah I I I -- you certainly as a as a as a former player that may not losing your job to injury I think gum is one thing if you're playing like. Stink before you get injured and the other guy comes in and doesn't lose. I think that complicates things doesn't.

What you're not talking about right right Jim Kelly right okay yeah yeah yeah you're talking about. Two guys. You know Trent obviously has struggled and they've given his guy. A number of opportunities to beat a good quarterback in this Lee and -- we've been saying over the last couple weeks he's kind of went backwards instead of going forward. -- I mean I I definitely think used they would fits. He's throwing a ball down feel even he would -- ball away a couple of time yesterday when -- you have anything and that's a good drive from a quarterback. He's moved he has their pockets president's as a quarterback and no he's not you know he's not GO march Elway or whatever but it seems like the guy has been around he's seen enough. He's played a lot of football got -- start twelve games -- in Cincinnati. Wants some ball games there and you know what when you have. He's realizing that OK I have to use a guys and on the field. And I'm gonna use almost totally. Almost -- TO -- throat Fred Jackson we wanna run a full ball defense and notably well in a special teams are gonna complain I mean when you have all three of those things. Working imprint in your favor and you know what sometime winds are not pretty but a win as a win in this week.

Just where the bills stay editorial board and how seriously wanna take the situation they've got a home game next -- against Houston. And then the by so you know most of a look at I don't know how it'll it'll -- a home game. To get the 500. On the year but bird. You told us last week. What can I ask you knew about the glory days and what it's just so cool that he's the head on another really nice game yesterday with two picks to back up. The good game he had last week against the jets and you on the heels you tell me that story -- to -- it in all it's all working for me that's permanent got a -- It's were -- cigarette and.

Afterwards I'm gonna do go to the go to the field house you know just not a checkout they -- binding -- congratulate them man and things of that nature is so I mean it's. Is good you know I -- and I've been an I've been telling everybody this story.

About how he came to me -- just want to -- stuff -- just to pick my brain about him being in a young Lee young. -- a -- seen what he wants to know OK I know I'm young or can I do what can I say you know what. And -- that yesterday and he got a couple of picks man and the you know the first person there was George wills I mean. This isn't my guys were having fun and I and Ira are really. Am anxious is to really get odor and and look at -- and look at how the guys are -- different things that I guarantee you right now they're there haven't gone. There have fun and ask what you need in a locker room when the pressure is on you know you have to go on you have to criticized. People every now and then you know is almost like him -- what a chip on his shoulder and rapping the guys have really taken offense but you know what. Which in apparent -- three and four you know what would feel like to be likes a meaningful.

Nobody knows maybe that's the way you know I think everybody's hope in that big goal is that way I'm Tom you know sure who would -- Yeah we all hope for it now I Niger state and that will be such a -- for him to give long enough five or six game when history. I mean that hasn't been around here and years.

Vitamin and one for a road start the year last year and got to five and one and I felt that -- pretty good really. The seasons under Dick Jauron have gone. Morsel like this one has gone so far. You know be -- you're you're you're you're due to win for -- wanted for whatever that you behind the eight ball. Win some games to make an interesting around Thanksgiving time and and you know and and up at the end up under 500 last year nearly -- a great start in right course due to an eight. After after five and one led them seven and nine somewhat of a different way. -- how realistic. Mean could this team we're talking about seven and 42 you're talking about five in a row. You're gonna have to rural walker. Right is that -- 66. Home loan. Oprah more than four yeah look at every 60 yet basic zero yet sodomy and and.

It's it's it's possible. I really think it's possible that they can run all. For five games and when -- in a row and get right back in a bit of things you know I I think is all about the the the camaraderie over what does. But this football team it seems like everybody's. Really taken it to a no helpful. Level and I think Kelsey yesterday got a stack and -- You know he'll really show -- much emotion but the guys just they were just. Holy book and then he lost how wind -- the first Torre would get another injury to yet another injured his knee injury now but. You know those guys Johnson and those guys stepped in and com. You know you just get more experienced when you're out there poignant and I think you know once I said earlier. You get the starters -- you get these guys have the after the bank weekend you know what it is so -- it's a bye we got -- becoming at the right time. You know for whatever reason to to really just starting get right right -- with -- the guys and disks. I am happy -- am excited about this team. Think in that you know yeah. The last couple weeks have been like ugly win is what is hard to get a win a National Football League and these guys are guess there are now second in the league in takeaways so mean when you have the -- of you have your defense take over like -- let me you. You know loans.

And -- birdies 11 off of the league Leach. But just gonna Xbox duty -- try to grab whatever. He's been starting since the Cleveland Damon in a five interceptions in three weeks whoever whoever made that big excellent job of picking -- now. Now addicted to -- the pace to beyond what let me ask you we we spent more already which is good they won the game they've -- in -- Talking about the defense in the takeaways and that the story about -- asking you like how you know how was what it was like here in the ninety's and what he can do to help get it back there. Got to ask you about -- because I mean should a guy a which he is resume be dropping balls every week. 'cause an -- and am curious about his effort to wear what are your opinion of his effort because I was critical after the New -- game I thought he quit on one ball Mac game and I don't Mike told me you felt differently about that. Yesterday the one long one. It just didn't look to meet -- Maliki really tight. I just it is not right to warm it seems like he can't be bothered to go get it what are your thoughts on what they're getting a really not getting out of -- thought there.

At this point they're not doing they're not giving the six point five million of these signed them on on two dispense offseason and a you know -- As at as a professional former professional bowler global player you know what they comes -- time -- sometimes you know users may be easier to walk. May be easier to -- maybe you know. With all stuff then there's been going on his career you know it's you know maybe it'll walk but I still like him on a football field. I still like him as a player on the four boards seem. But. I think it has to get better and you know that norm boss saw me just not catch and I'm -- were he did lead. The led the league in drops last year was close to -- and -- on that -- probably do it again. But I as still that they then -- these beautiful ball for I don't know. I would never ever say a guy is quitting. Yen might look like that some people on the football field that he's not goal for the ball whatever bug I would never say a guy would it. As great as his career has been. I would never. Saying that -- their dog.

do you think it looks. I respect that I thought I would but let me ask you this is it possible. That what I am perceiving as him not trying very hard is what you're describing witches -- maybe just can't even do what used to do.

Probably you know what I mean I think you know it like it ended under is Purina we get to a point where he couldn't do it anymore and I think. Sometime why receivers you know when you get of their amazing you've -- doom three of fourteen different quarterbacks different system. You know and he's not he's not the number one guy in everywhere he's been he's been the number one guy. And right now he's taken a backseat to Lee who is came alive in the last couple -- weeks. And I think he realized okay Lee is a guy they're going to be throwing balls -- early morning -- or an army and but I guess that I don't I don't think the guy is quit on his football team I had -- from him being here. Because I know what practice he still works hard he's the road he's not going through the motions. I think some -- that effect has rubbed off on someone all the players. You know you see lead talking now and no -- uses a quiet person but nice and a lot of different things and I think this summer stuff there's the rub off only from TO but. I just think maybe at this point right now he's maybe hit the wall. But he noticed a lot of football to be polite and he can definitely he's the -- a blared you know if he gets on a roll he gets on the street you know. They can be able to control some games and hopefully that will happen for the season away.

You don't think he's in danger being taken ill and dole it would take take a lot I would take a lot to give him our -- I -- a injury. Now have to be to get him -- up bottom line. Carolina I just think he's. He's on the field he's not have a -- used -- everybody inspected them have but you know what the guys out there he demands respect he's the man is. Double teams and he's gonna take a lot of press probably let me ask you this does YouTube you know and the players you. Monday reviewing film. By Howell how -- guys. On the team. Look at I mean they're there watching the film of them will commit you know I perceive it as a lack of effort whether he has the skills anymore -- while whatever is. I mean it was just did it look too bad that -- his effort on that long past and in the drops like how does that affect the team of disguise it make it almost always is big rock star. And Demi made all the players always know best pure did not put out this -- now how old how much of a negative is that.

And openness of negative I think you know what I think when I look at TO and elegantly Amazon a look at some other -- receivers Josh Reed or whatever. I'm thinking to myself and you know they're probably know watching a film right now later on today and and home. I think is at a point now where somebody might be in -- and then go like you know -- we just do it all at night we used to watch. Failed together as a team sometime or we'll watch an individual. Not because of time right now where the guise of being -- She'll hit you know what yeah it might be dead and I think it's got to import now or you know -- And now and I think Tebow will was Abbas will be probably my bad are yeah I gotta do better I don't think he's that -- that right now in his career where he was a no let. Leo whoever showed you know I just -- you know I think he's. Been -- no longer enough to worry guys can actually. Joke with him. And him not taken seriously and just have fun and you know I think he's at a point now he's gonna say you know my bad you guys should -- this -- idea that. You know he might talk to fish hatchery or Leo -- so. I just think the guy's attitude is really. -- And I think he's the -- yeah I've always heard that he's been.

Great teammate and associated thing differ from from what from from what I've been here a what -- Benson and I just think you know. You just have to walk right now and he's got to find a way to get out of at some point determine whether it's Trent Edwards whether -- Ryan Fitzpatrick. On the sites they won a couple of games hero and the defense has taken the ball away and they capitalized on the takeaways seventeen points off turnovers yesterday. At some point. Eleven point 511 of 2220. Yards they were ahead at one point in seventeen to fourteen to that even at 95 yards off its. They're gonna need better round quarterback -- whether it's am optimistic about really either one of these guys given to -- right there's Patrick made a couple of throws each week. And I've got points out of it that's great. I still feel like they're pretty much no wars that position now.

You know what it is soft -- it is definitely tough I mean you're not gonna have. You're not gonna have like the class of 83 commanders anytime soon and where the you define you know all the top quarterbacks coming out is really hard right now to pick. But Tom Corbett and -- in college football right now that can probably come in and make an -- immediate impact. To a football team so. You know the bills Obama what they have what I I do think room you know that there's gonna have to come a time where. They're gonna have to address the quarterback position now is that mixtures that. Does offseason and or two years from now. I think they're going after address. That issue at enlists.

It's better keep playing like he's planning to win and it's about -- They keyboard that's one thing I -- that it has no idea what I'm trying to make is that. You know era to win or your passion no holds most weeks to me it's nice that they started a couple weeks in a row but via their leaders he -- gonna hasn't time word he's gonna have to -- couldn't throw for 25300. Or whatever. I think you did a couple of times to Cincinnati. Manager for 300 once I know his first time out actually in relief of I think it was Bolger in Saint Louis going back -- was -- whoever -- he -- eat. He showed up on the scene -- and not one but anyway doesn't know his first timeout he did that and animal that he's done it again. -- 300 I mean I could be not it's been a long time the schools and 300 yard passer. 250 even 250 would be similar -- yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's now is definitely gonna have the comic. From the quarterback position where you're gonna have to have. 253 -- your games I mean maybe consecutive weeks in a row it's gonna come up -- soon and because I I don't think you can win with with.

Again it's -- better. I don't I don't think you win the game if you plan Pittsburgh annually got a 123 yard pass. Right yeah yeah yeah well you have to. BA would have total football -- and really have that balancing your offense and right now the only thing is really keep an -- game is at the defense has taken a little ball and while Obama got to -- to give them an opportunity to. Get seven or get Dario would have -- keep the field position so. -- I have to give better quarterback Yahoo!. You know legacy in -- it won't happen this year but. Sometime in the future they're gonna have to address this what's nice is that this year they don't play.

Pittsburg and really you know now match Robby mentioned and you should. Problem to get he's leading the league in touchdown passes that day and it is so he'll be in the air this Sunday I was about to say they don't play. Bonafide like star quarterback. Really until -- on the twentieth and then they've got three in a -- if you could I think Matt -- the week after that chemicals out with Manning but -- job this week let's -- you know maybe that's that's with the Packers as is that it's Tennessee and Jacksonville Miami in the jets in Kansas City imminent in -- talking about mirror drove.

No you're not no you're not end like -- it like we've been saying yes is gonna have -- generally you have to you know. Have one of those games were 120 for -- 500 out and -- yard I don't think now maybe if this week. Hopefully could be the week it could really doesn't match job is all that I don't and it and and a foundry Johnson's helping but that's I think that's a big part of it if he's held the yeah I -- you do look for. Met to throw up in the bills are gonna have to count -- mister -- planting a ball away at it the right now does what you hope for. But it eventually. The offer is gonna have the start where they're gonna have score of 24 of thirty points to win a football game and is it definitely starts with the quarterback --

Let me ask you and we were talking about Tom. You know team chemistry little bit. And obviously Fitzpatrick they've won a couple of games in a row I'm curious about Lee Evans on how closely if polity. During the week -- What guys are sane and not same but I just think -- a couple of years ago Evans was. He was saying what you -- are ready you don't lose your job injury about lost -- when -- right we'll start in the job. This week it just seemed like the opportunity was there for -- he wanted to. To campaign defend whatever. Though the the starting quarterback Edwards who got knocked out with a concussion last week. And he chose not to do that mean exactly -- say -- I put forward Ryan Fitzpatrick he's better. But he didn't come close to the territory he was treading in when boss man. Lost the job that you made what do you make of that.

Well. When you're -- a ball you see all right. Now there where you're not give employees say some great stuff and I think the last couple of weeks you know just would leave -- in this touchdowns and -- to see the excitement. You know he's I think he's just also a guy that's gonna be back there is gonna total. -- Don't run these 1520 your routes in their dominance -- want a -- I think you want to see the ball thrown out of film and I think when you have that opportunity. You know the guys get excited about I -- we've been critics the last couple of weeks and in Orion and I wish you know he probably things you know you don't wanna say anything right now about. No heaven fits in there and I haven't -- and there because right now. You're a two game win a string you're playing finding you don't wanna say anything man to miss of the chemistry to make up. The communication that you have in a locker room so you know it until that time happens. You know I think is are gonna be real good in a locker room guy does have the stick together. Hang out together -- more of we Moore -- team. Hang out together go do stuff together throughout the weekend. And wrong don't and that helps a lot when you're on a football field when you. Looking at the other side of full bar and say okay I know these guys can get it done and I think that's confidence that can go over the entire locker room.

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