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  1. Vinny Testaverde11:19
  2. Alex Smith28:55
  3. Philip Rivers35:14
  4. Adrian Peterson17:32
  5. Jay Cutler35:02
  6. Brett Favre12:26, 12:39
  7. Eric Lindros13:17, 13:26
  8. David Adams17:20
  9. Super Bowl30:20, 35:33
  10. Bruce Smith4:43, 6:08, 6:31

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    Hi everybody good morning it is Saturday January 14 I'm Mike show this is the hobby on WGR. I'm glad to have some baseball news two to play away. Here don't mean this this hour a insure anybody. Here up top knows. This exists so I'm pretty sure I could contrive a baseball topic by cared to and I might have when it gets cold. And across past you know the beloved bowl season. I get I get ready I'm ready for baseball February 19 for pitchers and catchers met you collar the producer of the show lined up. A professional baseball pitcher for today's show and a car collector a guy Matt knows about through a mutual friend. His name is Ryan to going pitches for Syracuse in the Washington organization. And the way I'm told is what I'm told is that he is a collector and also is someone that. Likes to try to get other people into it and that's all I that was one of the reasons for doing this a few years ago was to hopefully. And convince people that I know and mostly people but I don't just happen to be the station that collecting is still very much alive and and well. It's different than it used to be and I've. You know I think I've illustrated that almost every week through a phone call or some other thing. That I've been here since I labor day of 2008. Was our first our first show of the hobby but one thing I saw this week that was really exciting and also baffling to me. And I I'd encourage anybody who. Is in the collecting all the I don't most of our callers are are not people who. Are avid collectors now it's it may be half as around with that but people who collected along time ago wanna know what to do with things either way I would love to talk to. From people might it might have noticed this and have an opinion about it I'd be very curious to hear what you have to say. If if you track sales of cards. And you happen to track sales of the Michael Jordan. 1986. We your rookie one of the biggest cards. Of last. I don't know forty years mean certainly one of the biggest if not the biggest of the 1980s Jordan rookie. In a grade of PSA eight which common sense scale of one to 108 close to but not quite That card has sold for around 600 dollars. And I I looked up sales of this card that sold on eBay and auctions. And I happen to actually I bought two but I didn't mean to buy two which is. Happened and I sold one quickly away so say I've bought one of these cards either way it was around 600 dollars that I spent. And is something that I had thought about buying for a long time and I've I've had just sold some things I had the money needed to play with. And I bought the Jordan Carter and felt good about it all the other people like I've talked to the collect like the idea that card and why why wouldn't you. As an investment I mean it's an iconic. Sports card from the eighties and what I've noticed in the last. Two or three weeks. Is that sales of that card have shot up. It's all about 45%. In a month. And that's not just because one or two cards sold for 700 or slower 800 dollars but about a dozen of them. Mostly if not all of them on eBay. And that is a big jump for a card that I don't know it's a big card but why would that happen now. Any ideas I I don't really know are are the Charlotte Bobcats good or something. I'm kidding me that doesn't even matter. Com. What are these PSA eight Jordan sold for 999 dollars that's about a 625 dollar card that shot up like that. In in like no time at all. So. I I see something like this aren't eager to mention it because. The hobby. It's kinda like I don't need this it's like buffalo though and certain ways you know it it's a lot of a lot of a lot about the past. And how it used to be and with with collecting. As. Sure a lot of you know. Up until the mid eighties. Well in the mid eighties in the late eighties mass production started. And everybody got wind of the the notion that you could get rich through baseball cards and in turn started buying them. So pretty much by 19911992. Everybody had everything. And what happens in you know what happens in the economy to it is something. Like that it just the the bottom falls out and that's what we know that's what explains. A very simple level why. Cards from those years are all but worthless not all of the Marta got an example for you today as well. Of what kinds of cards aren't which I think might Tom be useful to many of but. We know that late eighties or early ninety's you know you've got almost nothing there. But prior to that there's still a lot of lot of money and a lot certainly. And a lot of fun to have and I think this card which is not an old card for this 1986. For a jump like that that I myself really can't explain. I'd love to tell you about it because what it what it. Also says among other things may be about Jordan or whatever. That collecting is still alive and well. And and people are throwing money like that at at at a card like this. And what what I also has happened from from this surge in the sales of Mac card is that now. You see people who do pay close attention to what things are selling for. You know dealers probably that have this card immediately go listing them on eBay for 800. Or 850 or 900 dollars because they've noticed that discard a shot up and I think that obviously they think that you'll you'll jump on that but you never knew your smarter than that. And I would think come they'll just end up sitting these cars sitting on eBay like a lot of stuff does. Without without being sold. 8030550. Is the phone number if you have a comment on that everything else related to collecting the Michael Jordan rookie has taken a big jump. A friend of mine told me that the Gretzky rookie also has I haven't noticed that and I didn't see that. And on a website that I used it to track prices I didn't see a jump in the in the Gretzky but maybe it happened a little bit earlier. Maybe you've noticed that yourself the Gretzky rookie is is a hole in my collection for sure I've never had a really nice one. Tops peachy peachy is a much bigger card than the tops card if ever. You become upon somebody who's got both. Audio PG cart is is much more words that. Lines are open for if you wanna chat I have a guest as mentioned coming up in the middle to show for a natural mention the time but. That the pitcher right to telescope beyond in the in the second segment today at around 83825. Every thirty. I I alluded to. A card from the dark days of collecting the the early ninety's that Tom has some value in this might be interesting to you. Because many many people. You have have these collections these big amounts of cards from those years and they always wanna know what to do with them. And I give them the quick bad news which is. It is very little value in it and you you probably. And you probably could do well to donate them or give them to have a youngster who might like that really not a lot of money to be made. One. Exception to that is if you have a rookie card of hall of Famer that's perfect. Bad grammar all famers and perfect the hardest. If if you have a perfect. Example. Of hall of Famer 1989199091. You know those years. You still have you have a little bit of money there now here's the trick though. To to considerate perfect. You probably need the degrade on it which means sending in a card that otherwise. You know might be worth fifty cents if that. You know spending five to ten dollars on getting a grade for that and then hoping that you get a ten. And you end up turning that into I don't know thirty boxer so the example and thinking of which I should have told you first. Is a pro set football card of John It might be 1990 I don't even know which right around there. And this John rainbow card was selling on eBay. The auction was over and I sought for 47 dollars in PSA ten. Now those pros sent cards are everywhere. But the the tough part with a great in mind is that the corners are colored. They're not port in the corners I'm sorry the borders the edges. They're not white. Bordered cards and white border cards are going to be in better condition generally. Then ones with you know that are different colors because the the caller can chip. So you have orange and purple on these different colors of those pro stick cars getting a PSA ten is no sure thing. Because of this this chipping the can happen and of course always other factors like corners and and so on so this John card was selling pretty well now what do you do if you've got a lot of these cards from those years I don't know maybe you seldom. To somebody who wants to take that chance for you and you know the they get the rewards in that case. But. That I just wanted to pass along that there is the potential. That certain cards from those years. Will do well and you know there are going to be hall of famers in in those years Brett Favre is from. From those years and I think maybe what does it action packed or some. That's and sharp what's the Favre. Rookie and who my asking what they're they're all kinds of different variations in my mind disputes modeled by all of them but you've got. And that and Randall McDaniel is another one. Marshall fall. It is another one of these guys are all from those years in the role in the football in their baseball guys to. And you know if you find those cards in great. Perfect condition than you might have something otherwise you know you you still don't unfortunately. Paul has called an and is on WGR Paul. I don't today. Yeah I got a brother mine east large collector I kinda got into it over the last few years what have. Happen here it always is my brother goal and searching grabbed and dub I think. Keep it not a ball thirty Michael Jordan. You know rookie. Cards and like that industry artificially inflate to. Also guided sit not a bunch of bombs those other people that are not a bunch of them keep Michael by its lack three like you said 950. Dollars. It artificially inflate itself. The next thing you know the industry standard that night. So it's really just a few people manipulating at all. Not being in the stock market interest and yeah I guess that makes sense. I hadn't thought that there were people with them much to be able to do that but if it's if it's ten or twelve Jordan's these are all being traded among the same people you're suggesting. Or like it'll play a vibrant I've 1516. And I got a chance that you grabbed three more those. And you know I mean all the nice goal and 3950 am talking to a dealer down in Denver. He should not oblige all the side we've manipulated the market. The sixteen that I had a fifteen and I had previous combined might lack streak at an artificially inflated inflated price. I'm get you know I'm getting the goods on fifteen an ready. makes cents or races in your brother has about thirty of them. Dirty regret that bad. Yet. The thing right and don't do I don't put the Wayne Gretzky rookie card to might spoke to when I was when abdicated on my fight I wish I didn't. Yeah I guess. Yeah I think the thing about that Jordan sat Paul is that it's those that your recent set. There's plenty of it out there but you know a lot of people didn't take basketball cards seriously at the time they did the or years were they weren't made. And so I think I think with that that the leaders that a lot of it's hidden in a few people's hands. Fluid you know that may actually think it occurred. Just just one more point this is gonna sound really trade your listeners but my Brothers already starting to grab cricket cards. From Pakistan and you see emerging populations come and into North America. From Pakistan from India. You watch it's gonna sound absurd but in one year cricket cards will be huge big and I like it you have you know thinking thinking about that the distribution among the population ethnically. did are you to thank you Paul. Soccer cricket. Well that is that's a long term vision right there I I think the Jordan point he makes you might be right. Don't just assume it's right it's not my nature to do that but I think makes sense. And I have not figured out any other better explanation for there there are there are enough people who have. Enough of those cards. That can the and they can make that kind of difference. In the prices. Interest in our 8030550. Is the number that's. To some places up for the time being is an explanation for that. Last night after the hockey game. I was just flipping around figure to be awake for another little while so I as I often do I go right to MLB network what are they doing. And at 10 o'clock last night for another half an hour was one of there twenty greatest games shows Bob Costas to number Gucci they're on them. And it was about the Kirk Gibson game. Dodgers and days and Gibson was the only guest player who was on and he was you know just. He was somewhere else like maybe with Diamondbacks or something they were interviewing him electronically. And playing. You know the ninth inning of that game talking to give senate caught a just right just the right time. Talking to him that he was talking about his day you know he woke up that morning in 1988. How we felt bad how bad he felt physically. How sure he was he wouldn't play you know Sat in the clubhouse through that game game one of the 88 World Series Dodgers a news. Listening to Vin Scully and NBC. Repeatedly say how Gibson was on available that night and Gibson. Said Howard started to burn him he is started to get mad listening to that and even though he knew he was in no shape to do it physically. He started to get warm up to the idea. Of of getting in the in the game pinch hitting at some point. So he was talking about that and Gibson I was never as a kid a Gibson fan but. Men now listening to him talk and him and tell that that story that day. He could not agree with what I like about sports any more than he does it was it was great. Watching him relive that day and he said something that. After I thought about it I I decided it was my favorite tree in an athlete. They're showing. Gibson home to bat. For that in 1988 and he's talking about. The experience. And he says that you know a lot of people ask me if I was nervous or just what I was feeling at this moment walking up to the plate. That night and and Gibson went on to say I was nervous I was so excited there's just nothing better. Then being in this this spot it's what you live for. We also thinking like what what does the guy say who did feel that way but struck out. In in that kind of a situation and how it later in life he comes to think about the the pressure of all that I wonder if it would be different but I. I shouldn't even said that that's not that's not my point the focus is on. What Gibson set about pressure he just said there's no there's no being nervous. This is what this is why you do it. There's this clip I think about NFL films from a long time ago ourselves and this is why we run all those laps. And I just I just loved it I think one thing about athletes that just is so. Awesome. Is how they in pressure like that respond to when they respond to a well and I think. For me and all I AM and I think a lot of fans are the same way this is something that sets them apart from us because. Most of us would get really nervous and not be able to function as highly as we need to. But athletes who don't and look at it that way I think that's beautiful I think that the it's it's one of the few common traits maybe not it's a common trait that the greats have. Is that they they love the pressure I think they really do I don't think it's phony I think you know they they have a it on attitude about it and Gibson. Came across that way to me and I just I just loved him for it. I decided that's my single favorite tree in an athlete is to hear that that kind of things said. And by the way his on his since this is his rookie cars are super cheap not a hall of Famer Bob what a great place in baseball history he has. 1981. Tops with a little hats. There's a Gibson cards get a jacket on the tigers and super cheap caution offering. All right. Ryan to telescope coming up a pitcher for the Washington Nationals and their organization. Was with Syracuse. Last year AAA card collector will talk to him all talked about a few things. What it's like to be a collector and a ball player at the same time they'll be plenty of time to for calls for your opinions or questions 8030550. Is the number I might show opened this is hobby on WGR. OK here is Ryan to telescope the morning Ryan nice to talk to you have my name's Mike show. Are good morning drab and you're welcome where were you these days I am. I am on the back end of it doesn't get out our driver and now Miami this in Indiana which arm problem right out side you know. We're just a sightseeing trip I know I'm my girlfriend parents live data is good so I'll while Iowa is kind of shut it down after planting a bomb and We're visiting her apparent now that I'm going to start ramping up my off season training or. During training arm and back to Indianapolis to train now with the pitching coach in America where where. Okay clear in the the nationals organization and just becoming. Familiar with you this week since Matthew got in touch with you about coming on here while Venezuela what was that like. It will a lot of fun you know it really. Prepared me you know middle and I can expect open this year I get a chance in the big you know it. And just. And you know extreme and there are so many people well it can mean weird aren't 2030000. People are you know on some night and cheering him into it there's trillion make between eight European soccer matches that. And a good college football rivalry and that was just. The band Mercury hit band were intent and the coaches the players you know. top notch I was able to play. Look such names you know are pretty good cockroach and brawn no I got. Henry go. And Carlos Gonzales so I mean you know Derek and there are a lot of big games down their Israeli and let. Very nice for you well of course the reason we're in touch with the used to talk about your collecting it says on Twitter for people who want to follow Ryan. Ryan to telescope of course would be that the handle there it says aspiring baseball card. Autograph collector how how did you what what what got you started. Congress started literally my dead you know it it was the thing that kinda bonded him and I totally I totally yeah you know Monty discussion or nearly 2% should say to Becky you know from Earth Day and of course immediately I would bet there are room in you know looked at baseball cards is that gone up and iron got about you know I baseball players and every. Every couple monsters so my dad let me Italian baseball show that would be around the be about it. Our guys I'm you know when I was younger we go to the card does look around we we couldn't afford it. Maybe I would try to bank and you know in and get to guard. Didn't have so I really. Really got into it and. I kind of stopped collecting. All college and. Does this year. Was very. Indeed indeed mean first Bowman cars so I kind of sparked my interest. What did it right away and and Cindy need gated me or how it very fortunate to deal autographs and baseball card though. You have really been able don't want them the cards and get out to my family and strand. Want to know mechanic got me back in the look like there's so to speak in credit running out of these cards like you know and not black Very nice trying to go with me here on the hobby on WGR. So what are some of your your best things are best autographs. On my best autograph. I think they have right now. Is to doubt today. World Series Jersey from the they gallery the Longoria the autocrat that got a World Series patch on it. It's. Authenticated PS DNA in it even got Adam Longoria has hologram on that I was able to work on that. Com through trade and I would give my best baseball card would be. A graded Nolan Ryan rookie card Nolan Ryan probably the one person and I collect. Just as he did. I love watching them play on TV and I was is the one purse I want to emulate whenever on the mound and though he was kind of a one card that I always try to collect it now that I collect it start ramp a little bit ease kind of the one that around. And try to come first a question back up again. That is a great card Ryan as you would know of course. Want out of his era he's to me he's the top guy for collectors mean Ryan. Obviously also had a great career needless to say but there's something extra about him he also pitched for so long so a lot. Lot of kids at different at different times along the way it would have been exposed and you know in a 22 year career something so maybe longer. So I'm really and that's the one painted I'm getting back into collecting been able to talk to some of these side and on super collectors just. Listening to you know their hundred people showed me pictures of their collection just being able. shared make new friends over you know just one player you know in kind of see what they have just talking about getting back in two in the being. Right how how well how good is your rookie card. Integrate. A good grade eight. Right now I'm you know it really good but it is currently the one that or depressed elaborate. We'll check back at an eight Ryan rookies very nice. Okay right to just go with me I'm Mike show opened this is the hobby on WGR. Ryan what kind of interest have you found that there is among baseball players in collecting. You know it kind of hit it in Ahmad. I'm not quite sure I know that. He checked. It probably super collector in the terms of you know the player world I think some people do extra actually with their own cards you know when they get released. You know sometimes the companies will give if you your own but obviously don't you go out autograph and or maybe that are the special hologram or things like that were more on the market as well you know looking because the card companies just don't. Kinda the promotional because that would take away you know from the around so we're on the market look at as well you know especially are aliens and com you know one sound usually. And outlooks or or things like that but. I think in terms just kind of collect and our players are really not quite sure but I know I know he's check is it he had that in the cart like. I've heard that too and also a couple of guys I've had on the show Dmitri Young with a famously great. Hall of fame rookie card collection. Why one of the best in existence Brad Ziegler from the days ago these on the really yeah Ziegler Diamondbacks may be. Arm he he's been on with me he is a big collector. Craig Rabach is another one although I think he might be out of baseball a player. So I'd like to find out about these guys that that are into it and of course you know. The access you have. Is so is so excellent here you are in the Washington organization what better. Organization would there be to be in for four you know if you're a collector right with Strasburg and Bryce Harper. Oh absolutely I mean you know there as soon as their cards are coming out there are being carved out by by people that they got out there. Tomorrow must you know I've played cards so bad and being able to watch them play on the field and also watching the value you know what their cars street. And what are your prospects this year Ryan you said you're open to make the big club. you know obviously that every cut every baseball player stream are much you're in the year and AAA. Eric New York with an affiliate and I'm very fortunate that the national that I did and they'll like that it kind of work on things and situations so. I think in the I'm I'm partly gonna start again as Eric Houston. Oakley at the scene and go to the I want I hope that you know the national TV champ and The nationals look better than ever right. You know what they're they're just getting better you know hopefully that. We can work got to deal copper Prince Fielder at being you know bring in that lineup would be. You know incredible and just bolster really strong. irritation and I think you know with the addition amount GO Gonzales starting look at national. You know there at that rotation going to be deadly you know and that they're able to that big bat that they wanted. and actually going to be a team to be reckoned. And I agree with that Orion maybe if if you're and you're going to be in Syracuse are spending more time there meet we will meet it's about two hours from here. And of course lots of games with buffalo and Rochester that the Syracuse. Plays every hour. And relish that not just about military is trying to plan now. On the I've enjoyed meeting you volley on Twitter hopefully my listeners will too and good luck this year. Appreciate their grammar or you're welcome to Tesco Washington. Nationals and I just abruptly cut them off without meaning to who was looking for the hold button and I hit the seal later but there sorry about that. I should apologize that was abrupt not on the air but you know behind the scenes here. very interesting baseball trade last night. Love it for the Yankees. The Yankees traded. Jesus Montero big catching prospect who did spend some time with them last year and did all right. To the Mariners for Michael Pineda there was more to the deal but neither is just I mean fears this guy right handed pitcher what do great pickup for the Yankees. I I won't I'm not on the inside when it's on the giving anything you can't get anywhere else by a lot of people. Love this trade for the Yankees to needed just huge upside for a four for him. And Montero was you know a good prospect but not like a sure thing in most minds any thoughts on this Matthew. Well the biggest thing is Montero is that he can't catch so he was probably gonna end up being DH. Which the Yankees don't really need one they have a couple players who need that DH spot give Jeter days off giving Iran days off. And they really need to fix up the rotation the sky 67260. Amazing first half. Right second half he fell off a little bit but that happens with some young pitchers when they. Throw Major League sells huge talent. Yeah yeah I think I think overall. You're getting back something better than you giving away there because there's no guarantee if if Montero becomes a catcher. And he can hit thirty home runs that's big value but he's a first baseman DH you can find those all over the place guys thirty home run. Very sneaky good move by Cashman just an NC north saw coming. A great trade for the yanks. All right some final thoughts here including one on some typing on eBay coming up call me feel like 8030550. I'm show and this is the hobby on WGR. Ryan to telescope Washington Nationals organization pitcher against him for being on. Double things I wanna get to in the last few minutes but feel free to erupts and supersede me because I'm always. I always want that eagle 30550. Is the phone number beyond this is the hobby on WGR every Saturday morning from eight to nine. Today run to the NFL playoffs start starts rather. And both teams will be on WB yen as we have the sabres tonight at the islanders pre game it's six. Saints at niners. Near record high temperatures for San Francisco on this possible mid sixties. And there's whether there are also perfect day the game tonight that I had a chance to go to I talked a little bit about it. Broncos patriots of looking at wind chills in the single digits little bit like our weather or a lot like it. Tonight for a new England and then pretty warm tomorrow the Green Bay game decent for the Baltimore game to you know mid thirties but. Nothing wacky that I read would be would be happening there. I got some last night. It's not as jargon that is losing. In in a bidding war on eBay at the last second. I've talked about my. Collecting Super Bowl MVP signed mini helmets and the right Aaron Rodgers helmet. Was sitting their last night in would be expensive. I decided with. Five seconds to go to bid eighty dollars above the leading and I got beat. I got the bid in Bristol got beat snipes are hard to. Hard to deal with. And I guess that means I should. Be one of those guys that you know you you set. A bid to go automatically right before the auction is over those are different programs you can use for that. And I don't know like maybe that's not why I lost like I did the same thing always I was watching the auction. But it's frustrating to lose that way you don't know that people are sitting by their computers bidding at the last second like you are and if you're like me feel like you know. Your superior to those people who just set a program to do their dirty work for them I was didn't like losing that Rogers it was a 200 dollar helmet a big ticket item and it had the inscription on it had the JS a certificate. I'm I'm I'm very particular about these not gonna. You know by any fakes. And I thought I had that I was bummed out here is bill on WG RI bill. out when I was younger I used you know collect cards and collect them you know every year or not put him in a shoe box and I'd like I have before choice. You know my house my little brother would always get and myself. But over the course of the years you know you're not collect them and put them up there and and I got older you know you did you really care about collecting cards anymore and I just you know let them up there and course and I want it to the army and went stationed in Korea you know about how truthful because. Home. And and just being given thought it really didn't care so that it at all anymore sibling you know. Get my card and probably up hit fairly well before choice in the attic. Yeah I was just wondering that they'd be where They sure. I'm in Korea we're talking you know these these are about a half century old these cards. There probably aren't they are very collect probably what they when we could walk up to the store and you know they won't like a nickel package and like so that checklist that check everything off tonight rubber band of not put them in. You know like old shoe boxes vitamin a poor choice so that my brother couldn't find them like a just forgot probably 62 through. Probably 68. On yeah that's that's a can be big money. if there in rubber bands. They know there are probably there's probably some damage. Older definitely damage confirming we we're always going to rule on trade numbers hold my friend because we are welcome we all had our favorite teams. let me say that and the derby there probably be some money and it if there's big money. The condition would be that the the key factor there. Like all they're not in good condition they wouldn't be worked very much them. It would be worth less but just how much less really it's it's just totally about what kind of shape the rim and yeah it's proportional so what are we get into this house. I don't know but the the request of the kind of wait for it to go up for sale but you know. For the flip rhetoric around the corner from it you might still visit it'll be old neighbors. From time to time and early mentioned that anybody else. This of this of this is puzzle a puzzle are here and whether another and it's it's it's it's definitely not your property anymore. Exactly know that the legally they're not the president not mine because you know obviously they. They're part of politics though. But if you knew with the people who live there. And you said to them look I I think there's something valuable in there that I I know where it is and you don't let's make a deal. Think about it that. What do you think about that. While maybe I'll just try that. I'll tell you all all all tell you where this is and show you how to get that it and will split the it will split the cause or the profits 5050. Maybe some like work let's interstate and let me know this plays out bill okay. All right thank you. Thought that's out what do think about that meant you better approach. I don't think he's in back. Known. I think it would be really weird if someone came to me and said hey there's Mike crap in your house from a 4050 years ago and I. Paul your floorboards and I dig in there and you know but it's just it's an alluring prospect these things sitting in there and wondering if they're still there and how much they might be worth super cool. That guy wants to write me so I can follow along in the store be thinking about them like what exact what I wanna do in that situation what would you what would you do it's a good one. Well I mean if the cut was picking up the potential cut then maybe it eleventh there the if it's my house and someone says that's a whole other matter. Minutes are what are you gonna pay for the damage. That's done that you'd pay for the repairs. Very interest in the to go lot of different ways that one. And only has Ricky bones cars. If he's got. Mean if he's got 62 in mint condition he's got big money no mint condition that's a but still there's potential there interest thing. I like that one I'll be asking my friends this weekend. What they would do in that situation hey Ryan gets left four assists last night don't get your hopes up. Have a great weekend I'm Mike show this is the hobby on WGR.

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  4. 1/14 Nationals Pitcher Ryan Tatusko on The Hobby

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    Ryan discusses his career and card collecting

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Just a little bit yeah but I feel like I can almost picture it in my hat I'm sure I've seen it before. Just that I used to be into -- collecting. Especially bills are collecting okay solid feel like might seem at least 186. Tops. Green border with white diagonal lines around picturing around it and then the picture of Bruce is just a closeup of his head. Andy's got elected jacket on the big or the Republican big sideline -- Coke or something like that. Looking off to decide what it's only best you can guess. The book price of that card. And V. The book price to different book sports market report the PSA. Price guide for the same carted a ten. 1986. All right well I'll go with the first 11. Will go. I'll save fifty dollars wouldn't. And then for a ten.

175. Taking said Michael oh interesting so you you've learned don't take that personally it was not a snub but went on to the third set the copied. And you've learned that there is if there's a -- The Bruce Smith the rookie. Books eight dollars. -- I mean he's an all time great because we all time sack leader we use the all time sack leader. Will we tend to put down our our guys are everything about ourselves we we put ourselves down all the time around here. But even if you wanna look at Super Bowls or just however one of put buffalo down. Bruce Smith is an all time great. And I think frankly more so than any of his his teammates mean Thurmond's in the Hall of Fame Jim Kelly is -- Bruce Smith. Was to me the best. Of all of the team of players on the team and it -- wasn't the best. Defense event in the league he was one of the two best for almost. The whole time you played for the bills I mean from from the mid to late 80s8687. For ten years he was. Clearly one of the two best defense events in the league all time sack leader. So not 58 bucks eight bucks is the book price you go into carts or today Dan. And you wanna collect all time great football players you walking out of all the stores the card is there probably is which is why it's so -- with the Bruce Smith rookie for five. Mean their nets element to your for the full book -- even -- that on me. You have five -- I told times have we ever played today gave up. Do you have the money you need to buy the card were talking about that is great that's as at all -- So it's an eight dollar card in PSA -- torts 650. Yeah look at that look at his eyes jump out 650. Now that eight of the only thing I wanna talk about there is the eighty six's. Were tough. Are tough. In high high grade Ron Amadon. His NFL rookies USFL. Card. Predates the 86 to upset by his first NFL card is the 86 top sets so was Reggie White and those cards in ten are. Into the thousands. Because of something whether it's. Out of the car to the green border. Brittle Brit marks thanks Ron Amadon might have a little black spot near his name most of the time on his cards. So tens or almost nonexistent even nines on Ron Amadon I opened. A box -- if it was Seles again I think it was cell Lois the economic the pact to concede through the the covering. I opened a box of those up maybe three years ago and I I found 45 Ron Amadon all just looked perfect to me. And I was so excited because I'm looking in the price guide and even in the nine that card 11 of them I should look now Vista just to be sure since I'm telling office. But even one. Ron Amadon 86 tops in -- nine -- would have paid for my box. 325 is the book on -- Jerry Rice rookies in the set to. So mom I had like five of them that I just thought. Almost perfect I mean a hard time finding anything wrong with -- so I sent the ball in to PSA thinking I am. Made here. And they were all weights. All five of them rates makes it about a twenty dollar card so I didn't pay for the box with with that as you can figure out. But once you get to attend its big money the point isn't. The degrading point to make a lot. Eight to ninth -- the public is is -- kind of sad that it's that it's true that Bruce Smith is a box. Or Andre Reid is six boxing you're nodding Dan isn't it like. -- want there to be I want there to be if you don't. Up proportional relationship that makes sense you can discuss you can argue about with fellow collectors -- just with sports fans you know. About who was better than whom admit that card collecting gives you another way to do that. That. Well George Brett verses Robin -- from the same set rats better because. His card is worth a little more although he's not he didn't steal bases or. I mean he didn't play short it's a tougher position I mean you could go back and forth with somebody about that. They're from the same set it's easy to do it and you can. You can use the prices of their rookie cards as a point in the argument you really can't. But Tom once you get into the late eighties even 86 here right once you get into them it's just very tough to do that. And that's too bad. Because it be funded its its its -- to talk about to argue about players and argue about sports. And then you gets I mean it gets worse I've just got to football price got in front of me to him looking up. Bruce Smith Audrey reads rookies in the same set one part away by the way they did them by teams in football in those years eight box. Reid is in in the Hall of Fame but some think he will end up there. Then you don't have a great year and 87 -- 88 Bo Jackson 5 dollars. Kevin Greene Kevin green is someone who may get a -- for the Hall of Fame probably not he's probably already been eligible but a dollar Tony five. Vinny Testaverde four dollars 198989. Score. Is a little bit different because there has been but there are still many consistent demand for those cards and when we get the phone calls as we often do on the show about. Discover cards from the ladies I'm too quick to say. Gambling you know promo but. I mean it's generally true 89 score is -- set that does have value eighty dollar set in some I mean many. Great all time great football players come out and that set Aikman -- Barry Sanders to name to name a few but they get to. You know ninety and it's just everybody from then on. Until card collecting became. Hundreds of dollars for the top products. Not most of the ninety's and into this decade -- biggest -- last decade. Just nobody's worth anything. Unless yours and you're talking about again whenever that exactly started -- talking with a high end product. With the the autograph cards in all of that Brett Favre is probably pretty good example for this. I -- even know his rookie card 92. It was just such a dead. Time and collecting. It would never even occurred to me to go look for Brett Favre rookie 91 upper deck. Ten bucks. 91 stadium club uncorrected error Brett Farr fifty dollars that's probably about as big as he'll do. 91 all truck ten box and it's just it's just dirt cheap. So with the cards that cheap is it fun acted to go get them is it fun to save money year. -- just sit around and fantasize about which which guys to collect football is no different than baseball -- hockey. Jogger is somebody Dominic -- You're you're talking about early nineties upper deck for guys like this Sergey Fedorov hobbled parade Eric Lindros even. None of these guys is worth anything. And and that's even Marty Broder gets up to like thirty I think.

I you mentioned Eric Lindros I whenever you talk about him and cards I always have that one image that one card in -- at him. Sitting in front of ten different NHL jerseys and I believe that's what does that score maybe I don't know the card now you don't know that are -- I know once it's it was before the draft it's just him and shoulder pads sitting in front of a bunch of blank NHL jerseys one of which. I believe is awful.

Really the draft when he was draft that was in buffalo. But I I don't remember that -- a picture. Him in leg or the baseball bat and the Jersey that they give you when you get drafted -- But that's Marty Broder is rookie card he's in front of of a curtain or something and he's just -- the dork he had and just like he has got drafted. And here he is sets that's 89 or ninety score -- Broder. I think. And our 2010 and -- keys that even considered old really he's been around. A long time but he's not at the point of his career where where people talk about him as old. So what am I don't know maybe I just. I don't -- much point but I like thinking about you know comparing. Great players how come. How come Nolan Ryan's rookie in 68. Is so much more expensive. Than C version 67 it's not like it's that much more but it is more expensive. Or that rod Peru and 67 and an intern Carlton. In in 65. I mean the good. The supply the existence of those cards is generally. Pretty easy to to figure out and understandable. And also pretty pretty it's pretty slim a mean relative to to later on so. What what does it mean does that mean that Ryan is better than Seaver. Does that mean that Ryan is more popular than Seaver and then you can get to rose and all the great players of the game. And used the prices the cards -- one way to compare them. And then you get in 1986. And that dies. Kirby Puckett right hall of famers and in different sports. They're just they're Clemens and I know that that's been tainted now by just can't do it. So was that's too bad right. I think that's a thought it was always a fun thing to do. All right well I'm here for you if you have a phone call that you -- to make to me and talk about collecting may -- this point I'm making or something that is in your collection something interesting do you. Have you found anything lately have you bought anything lately I always like to know. From other collectors out there or people that used to be collector's most of our call that we get are from the second of those two groups people that. Used to do it and figured out curious about it. I'm always a very touched. When people tell me that the show has reignited their interest and it or that at least it has occurred to people to to get back into it so I'm happy to. When whatever information I -- for you. 8030550. Is the phone number and lines will be open until -- also I wanna talk some football next. And about quarterbacks. As the season gets a little closer. I had a conversation on Monday with a collector. Wanting to know what quarterbacks. In the league right now would be the best investments. Now. There are there are Brady and Manning and Brees in those guys. But this was more -- that the -- this question was more about the many young quarterbacks in the game. How do you pick between. Sanchez. And Stafford and all the different -- a young quarterbacks that are out there and Chad Henne I mean there are lots of choices. And I'd like to say a few things about that in May begin your opinions on that too. 8030550. The number to call me I might show and this is the hobby on WGR.

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Just between us god help me if that's true. If I'm talking about that all season long I -- not -- the season. Holy -- amounted to a food draft every day either but holy cow got -- if that's true. You know anybody was talking about that now. I see this from time to time but just think about that. The the bills quarterback situation right now is unclear and no one cares. Nobody cares who they pick. Being from the days of Flutie and Johnson. And a city that was. Just turned up to eleven about that team all the time. Mean people didn't care as much about their families as they cared about whether Flutie should play over Johnson you should -- heard this radio station. And now they have I guess they have three guys spot. Doesn't matter if they have ten nobody cares habit.

This is probably not right and probably going too far but. I'm wondering if that the guys themselves rather not start sometimes it's the season to start first. Maybe we Trent Edwards is ready to kind of get away from this I don't know. I wanna talk about quarterbacks a little bit here not not the bills I don't wanna bore everybody. But -- talk about NFL quarterbacks and collecting in the point of my being here is to focus on collecting. And I did have a conversation with someone on Monday about about quarterbacks in the league who would I recommend. As in artistic again -- use the word investment. Come as a choice somebody wants to get in the to collecting quarterbacks. Who would be a good a good play right now if you will. Well will go to the phones first and then I'll get into that and also got a couple comments on. The latest regarding Lance Armstrong and and I admit to those those comments have nothing to do with collecting but. I'm I'm thinking it and I I feel compelled to say when I'm thinking on that here is Mike first though I'm Mike.

I'm like Torre thinks. Like a major opinion and so -- but. I have come into our possession with Syria of basketball. That's been signed by all the players from the 2010. I'll start. I would like that we're going to be donating this ball. Through the national debt also -- to -- local charity here buffalo okay. And that the security event as a week from today and what -- major opinion about is do eight. Maximize maximize the the efforts to get the right amount of money four collectible like that in buffalo which doesn't have them be seen. -- what I be better off. Going through some other outlet whether -- EP charity or something like there and trying to maximize maximize the amount of money it would get purpose item for the local torture people.

Well that's a tough question for me because really the key to answering that question is just what your motives are if you wanna donate the ball which is quite generous the ball is going going to have some value. No the most from if you wanted to get the absolute most money you could for I doubt you could do that at a local charity and I say that. Less because of the fact that we don't have an NBA team then almost never is the most money you can get for something attained through charity donation. Usually. You wanna you wanna think about an auction instead so it's exposed to people who are who are collectors at a charity event. It's people some people may be collector's -- Things will go for less than they would online say. Generally but you know that's really not that should not necessarily be a determining factor for you I mean if you. You wanna donate. Through a local charity and you pick one for a reason then the ball should sell well enough to you know to make that worth doing. Does that make sense.

It does is you know I have talked to. This somebody locally here who does it late expertise and that he says that the law could fetch as much inside the 101000 dollars mine somewhere in a large. Larger market -- buffalo at a market that -- be.

Well I wouldn't know I would know about the dollar numbers but that that wouldn't shock -- say that and I would think I would think that he's right that. Whether whether you used eBay or eBay is tough because you have to be able to authenticate all the signatures and you wouldn't be able to show to people. It's something like that you might be best off going through an auction house.

Right okay that that that's great Mike I do have a certificate about the authentication for Yates that would help.

That the makes sense you would you do you care to tell us how you got the ball.

Well Mike you know quite well. We're in buffalo for. For sometime now and other local charities and national center for missing and exploited children and we opened up -- author -- circle about ten years ago and I've got friends on the demise. Do in my packet creation -- and all of the sports. Areas and the -- National football players association. Players association the bills. The MBA. Number of other groups. Charitably given to me. -- for -- Group that supports the exponential buffaloes so yeah idea contacts with each of the organizations that. When I call them an act of them at all about their -- trying to generously. If for -- all kinds of things -- collectible items one other thing now Roxio and you know. Please a -- a guitar -- an autograph like Taylor swept. -- that's something that's also reports passports. Thing but obviously it's something great popular now and should such a good price for the -- your local locally herbal.

Well good for you and I'm glad you called me about it. All right thanks Mike. Would you rather have -- the the basketball or the Taylor Swift guitar. I'll take the basketball me too close call. Close call but I'll take the ball you know it is they're there'll be. The sale of all of that ball the auctioning of it at this charity event the caller Mike is talking about. And that's that's. Going to happen next but you know somebody not not the charity offense of course necessarily. Draw. A crowd of people who. You know look for offensive to invest in or you know it's not like going to -- if I wanted to. Make some money collecting today I would go maybe duo cards store or I might go online and try to buy something with ideas on selling it down the road. If you happen to have the kind of cash. That you're at that event and combine that ball. You know you might think you could sell it back to someone else in in a different marketplace. For more I have done that. I have done that at a charity golf tournament one time. I'm not gonna talk about what the thing was but I I went in in bid on something because I thought not really that ever wanna keep it. But that I might like to I'm I thought I thought the value was good. But the price was right and I wasn't prepared to go. -- all the way to the top to get it wasn't something from my grandkids it was just you know something to to make a little money off of and I don't think there's anything wrong with doing that. Why why would there be. You know the money is going to the the cause that you know it was there in the first place this this ball. Will raise money for the missing and exploited kids and that's that's what it's about and really who cares who gets. Song is -- check -- right so why am I mean some people who sell the signature thing will topic I guess some people who sell. Cards or. You know important or interesting memorabilia. Want it to go to. Someone -- home I guess we're talking at a pet you'd say it that way that go to a good home. Com or maybe I I you can think eventually well. But if your in the middle. And you see something -- that's a great price for this a bit on this and make the donation you could probably write off the donation to. And then sell it down the road. Eventually we'll go to a good home and that is in the wrong with that. Mean we with that it's a lot of interesting in in in my circle of of friends talking about collecting and investing a lot of -- in conversations. About judges you know war what the what the ethics of it all. Of all might be like if if from. I should really like not talk about this now and prepare myself to have this conversation. Because it you it is interesting to to consider some of these kinds of things -- a friend or someone comes to you. With. With cards or anything. And they wanna know what they have mean you wanna you wanna be honest with them. But you don't I think and I wanna be honest with them always. But if it were something I'd want a --

How do YE reconcile. What kind of offer I -- I mean if it's. He -- an honest assessment of what you have. Now. For -- be able to do it I might not be able to afford. What that number is. But I'm looking at it. And I'm thinking I might love to have this and I'm not going to get very many chances to have something like this so if I guess if you wanted to sell it. Right now I would pay you a little less but whose gonna wanna do that right so I mean there are lots of different. Ways that can play out in some of them can be tricky. You want them you know you wanna can put your friendship and you know your your reputation. I think first. And then whatever opportunity you might have to buy something below that. I think that's generally good way to go. Well I've talked about quarterbacks very much year. But time I'd still like to. The the NFL right now has an interesting group of young quarterbacks and I think one thing that's happened. With public opinion in the last decade or so. I think most football fans can rattle off easily tip of their tongues. Names of highly drafted quarterbacks. Who bombed. Don't you think most football fans can do that can you do that. Don't you know Ryan leaf and -- Smith and Tim Couch and Cade McNown and all these guys like this even Culpepper who. Had his moments but I mean there are a lot of names like it is. And most fans know that maybe Alex Smith soon enough is on that list San Francisco's guy first overall. And I think it's so common that people do that and we were so conditioned. To to hearing about how risky it is to pick a quarterback. Hi in the first round but I think Matthew Stafford. Is underrated as a prospect and I don't say that because I watch Georgia in fact most of the people. Who talked about Matthew Stafford who's picked by Detroit first overall in 2009. Most of the people who talked about him around the time of the draft put him down. This guy doesn't deserve to be first overall. Maybe he's the best quarterback in the draft he's not the best player in the draft there was just a lot of negative. Talk about them and many got the highest contract in the history of the sport and people hated him for that. Were criticized for that as if that were his fault. From what I've been. Reading and hearing about him. And from what I've seen last year he got hurt in -- it was terrible it went back in the game and that's Jim Kelly. And and other guys. I think there's a lot to like about Matthew Stafford is is rookie cards are cheap but I think. If you can if you can find it I think even may -- Sanchez to Sanchez. With the jets is super hyped. And that team is being super hyped Super Bowl -- even. I'm not sure it's a bad play though I mean the guys with the big -- are the guys you wanna generally stay away from. But. If Sanchez wins in New York. His cards are going up there are still not too expensive. For what his ceiling is I think. And some people don't love him because he didn't always play that well last year his team got the AFC championship. He was a rookie in New York City having played USC across the country when did that. I think you have to respect that some so even though those guys are big money guys -- Rogers another one not cheap. But I think there are a few quarterbacks right now in the league Roger's little different he's been around for longer he's done more. Stafford and Sanchez too high picks I like them both. As as investments but they're not gonna be cheap for you wanna find somebody cheap well then -- we're looking. Chad -- Maybe with Miami does he. Continue to play well match job in the -- expensive and he had big numbers last year is taken -- team nowhere if they finally win you might be able to get something their Houston though such a nondescript team just. Is there anything interest thing about Houston so well -- but I didn't have as much times -- wanted to go into it after week we talked about that other thing about. Quarterbacks in the league right now not radian Manning in that class but otherwise a some adjusting options there for nothing like a few of them. 8030550. The number I might show this is the hobby -- have more for you after sports. I might show welcome back to the hobby or talking quarterbacks here. And making money. I mean that's. That's a pretty good combination of things to be talking about let's make some money was sports let's figure out who's going to be good. And invested in those people. You wanna find a reason to get back -- card collecting. About that -- telling you that I can. Necessarily. Show you the way. But it's one thing that you know be in real here I I like about collecting is that you can't I can try to. -- what I know about sports and and invest in those in those players in their collectibles and see what happens. I like Matthew Stafford I even like Mark Sanchez even though their ball expensive especially Sanchez Sanchez and they're great.

Opportunity to blow up as a as a football quarterback I mean he's on a good team. And he's in the best market he could be the talk league if the jets are as good as people think. Sanchez gives you home run potential. But you know you're going to pay for the for the at bat if you will. And -- I like Kevin Durant real quick to I think. In basketball I think LeBron is he's got these of course the talk of the league. And Amber's gonna wanna know how Miami Doug will be a lot of focus on them a lot of scrutiny to. Meanwhile Durant who is up your player. Is just gonna. The great -- stays healthy. For Oklahoma City it's a super small market but they have improved team he is -- fans wanted LeBron to be. Mean he's staying put. And you know he is it was a long way from winning the NBA title but he's rate. And people are going to sing is going to want to like him more. Because of what LeBron did. He's going to be I think the -- abroad and this year not Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant's older got five titles that's interesting that's great Kobe Bryant as a mega star in the league and in the hobby. Not quite what I'm talking about the rant is the guy who stayed small. And it was good enough for him and people who wanted that from the broader going to see that in Durant. And wanna like him that that could not that that's not gonna hurt him in in collecting eventually. For him to grow we'll -- the champ probably that's how they do it in basketball but. I would put -- past and he's really good. So well another big money guy but time. That's sometimes where the the growth potential is in our economy. A lot of money collecting. I'm commons that just suddenly show up in our stars really. That's pretty rare. Here is -- next hi Danny.

And like -- don't and a -- around about twelve years ago and all other -- saturated but I'm quick question I know we're talking about quarterbacks. And and I got to just a real quick question about one autograph at a government he was actually confront were. Triggered panic and you're opted to two quarterbacks real quick -- Jay Cutler. No he's on the down side he had it kind of not peer but I think that's about I'm usually apply. There's actually below and they still got opposite star potential. And and Philip Rivers I read a great article I've done Oreo and -- do you think he's going to be like the next to him out. We're gonna have all the stats but no titles.

Boy this is it let me let me answer that quickly this this is the year for rivers I think I -- he's still pretty young but people have been ready for San Diego to win. And they really mean David made the Super Bowl yet so one of these years they're going to have to do it and I think where where the public is that with rivers in that team. Is that it it should be pretty soon -- it's not going to happen so he's good he's already pretty popular collecting. I'd be careful on him I think they have to win and if you think they will. And I would do that I like your point on color. He sometimes with this you you have to find the guys that people are down on. And he certainly is but he's real talented talented he's still young. In a big market I don't know how good that team is but if you like how the look at that team I think what you said makes cents.

Okay and then just got real quick question. Model except my dad knew a couple of traders are cast in a car accident fourteen bottom. I got some old they're actually black and white Sports Illustrated -- our progress. Wanted actually like sparky Lyle once Christian analysts. On your back in the seventies and one Yogi Bear some to wonder in the Yogi Berra one what do you think that were. -- economy. I know actually they're actually Sports Illustrated black and white photos full. Skiing or somebody that was involved with the team you and I asked them I still have them in the actual -- Kodak. Others like a codec. Older where heavily tenor from there and I can't remember all players -- are -- more -- Yogi Berra once stood out like sore thumb especially in arteries in all answered yeah most popular Yankee all time.

Dead anyway I'd suggest you do is use use eBay to find out values you can find autographs of almost anybody on eBay at a given point and I would search. -- auto Chambliss. And just see what they sell for Yogi Berra is old and he is a legend but he is not. That big in in the hobby because he signs. Profusely he signs all all kinds -- there are so many Yogi -- autographs the market is saturated with them not to say it's. You know -- which capped at all I have a -- peace. Myself. But he's someone that I think should grow in stature long term but -- so many Yogi -- it's like Bob Feller but dollars and ninety. By his autographs are just everywhere so. And except on this excuse me instead of me giving you -- number I'd I'd ask that just so I don't get it wrong go to eBay and search Barre should be too hard to do it. And you should be able to get your information. That way. -- I didn't get until Lance Armstrong is just as well Floyd Landis was on Nightline last night. I'm reading espn.com. Account of that. I I think it's I -- most people believe Floyd Landis and and Armstrong and his attorney always do the same thing. They never specifically denied the allegations and I don't exactly blame them for that because Basil there'd be a lot of time spent doing that sometimes you have to roll that. But what they always do instead is put down the accuser instead of counterpoint. The point. So Landis says I saw Lance Armstrong using drugs that's a quote. Armstrong's attorney says he is a confessed murderer and liar. Well does that mean he's wrong that -- lying now. Says story is gonna get worse about it but people love to do most people believe Lance Armstrong. I don't I don't think they do let me I I think nobody wants to but I think most people deep down.

Think he probably. Wasn't over and Landis also set -- what latest these quotes make a lot of sense. He was asked if he considers Armstrong a fraud Landis said it depends on what your definition of fraud is look if he didn't win the tour. Someone else that was doping would have. In every single one of those two hours. Two point worth considering too. If they do something wrong should you do something wrong. You don't wanna say no but that's easier said than done thanks for listening everybody about that a hobby wrapping up on a on a message to the kids. We're back Monday with with all blog at 3 o'clock in the next Saturday here -- eight thanks for listening have a good weekend.

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