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We've had many. Of the industry's. Biggest hitters on the show in the almost two years we've been doing this. We had Joe Orlando the president of PS today. On three times I think we've had him on three times Dmitri Young. Athletes Marty Iran has been on. We've had writers on. And we continue.
You can laugh. We continue that streak today or video think it's funny maybe you think that I really billion Todd as an industry giant. But sometimes like -- that. The same level over known as your Dmitri young's all of them or let -- bicycles that Mike -- during meal with a well I could tell you that Todd is Todd Simpson is -- in studio guest today surely you know that name. If you've ever collected cards. Well maybe not. Todd is. The former co owner of the mighty Grand Slam cards. On Grand Island -- had a long run with that store. A good three months a few months yeah. Review you and I I'm being a being told here in my ear you and I owned that sort together is that right -- and that was a long time ago now. Yeah -- in early ninety's Todd lives in Denver -- was my first friend. Is drawn up a Grand Island together and we both head. The I would say in my case at least Todd a tremendous interest in cards that I've. A few years ago. Had renewed. And muted too yeah absolutely and how do you think and even that started for you.
You know I started collecting. The first cards I can remember having. Buying packs and stuff were -- 78. Football I remember lined those up in my room. Steelers -- that you know your front runner Fernando and that agent and a speaker result but I've -- and -- violently like those Steelers. I was rooting for Seattle by then I think the that's that's the first group that I can remember collected and just because I loved -- it's the a lot of the players so that's a lot of it for me was he got to see who the players what they look like in anywhere. You're on ESPN every ten minutes back then Soviet the only way to really know -- guys were.
Right and they didn't make cards for everybody but if you were your interest in the good team there and organize them or like the bills that in some of those years but the the 78 set since you brought that up already seventy -- that that was my first year collecting two we probably do that together. And those images 78 football baseball. Hockey got so much basketball book a little bit. Especially those three sports. Those images largest ingrained in my head and I think they they will be forever just the looks of those cards that -- players you can. Yeah I I -- I'm thinking about that. In the football upsets cased as the the order of the colored border in that the name of the team bring up the left side. And of those for those are great -- so we collected through the eighties and had a lot of fun doing that I think. As I've most of the show for a couple of years now at an -- lot of people. Oh yeah of course talking about people and in our age bracket. Particularly. Have. Great memories of doing that and then like. Other people also might have thought to do. -- decided by the late eighties when it was as popular as ever and about as popular as anything else was in those days. Two. And maybe this was our mom's idea Todd but let's sell some of the stuff right we have so much let's let's go into business. And you know we we know we're doing. Know -- the -- but it seemed like a good idea it was it was interesting to to be on the other side.
Yet who I just remember we couldn't. We couldn't buy anything any bulk so we really had no way to buy anything yet at wholesale price we had a -- him hit flea market and then try to resell for a few bucks extra sort.
Which is tough that's tough to do you are nobody wants to. Nobody wants to pay you a few dollars more for something they can go get of the flea market to that the so I'm. We were in business for I mean it wasn't for very long. Summer but I wonder. I wonder today if may be anybody listening had the same kind of experience not necessarily opening a store but possibly. Somebody did I mean in those in those years there -- stores all over the place and and the flea markets were just mobbed with people you remember that way though every other. -- at the flea market lose with starts. And it was just a crazy crazy time I wish I knew a little bit more about it then. Just have no better understand -- what what was happening but in the in the late eighties and early ninety's it was. The thing to do and I don't when it stopped for you.
I think it's up pretty quick after that 'cause I got an ecology and just wasn't. Focused on it all and didn't didn't spend my money on that.
And you're thinking about that is that. That makes sense I think it probably does I might have been pretty much the same way that wasn't right away from me but it was eventually you know you go to school and and people are not you know well girls -- not impressed with it in particular and that hasn't changed too much as -- we'll look kind of I know from knowing you that you're not doing much with collecting. Anymore. But you still keep an eye on it.
Yes sure absolutely -- did stop in the -- what's allowed to see what's what's -- what people are interested in and pick up a couple facts here and there are some football cards there.
You ever think of getting more into it again I wouldn't mind but to -- and AdAware or those -- right now it seems like -- lot of people feel that. Collecting in in terms of the new stuff I get this question a lot is it's just two it's too complicated I don't know look at where to start. And that's some that's that's the deal breaker. You know like if you. You go into a card store and you know this isn't the fault of the store that there are a lot of products out there or as they usually put it there is a lot of product out there. And young people do have varying interest in various price points. So while I'm of course -- to offer it but I think they think it's really intimidating for for people may be collected his kids and there were three or four different options are a -- work here. And you go into a place like David Adams which is so big European bases loaded here in the area and there are just so many different. Choices. It's it's hard to know what to do.
David if you want football card look at it ten different. Styles of project as well -- different sets out you just don't know which one to start with the line.
That's a real problem I think. It it's good in the sense that. You can go in for thirty or forty dollars a box you can go in for ten times that or even more sometimes you can sort of I think you can generally you can generally be right to assume. You know you're going to get what you pay for up and down that that scale and if you go win that big money if you're thinking about reselling. You're going to give yourself a better chance of making money back and if you go hit thirty or forty box real have almost no chance at doing that but that depends on what. What you're into like if you're just looking -- Have some form of that then that the cheap boxes the way to go -- generally assume that put. People people don't like to spend that's real money even if you're looking in the middle there right -- looking -- a hundred dollars that's real money and people don't wanna spend that on and guesswork too too often.
Yeah I don't know you know you may not have the ability to turnaround if you wanted to do that if you don't know where to -- or anything you're trying to turn it over.
Right the day. But that's a lot of people are I think are are slowed to get into something like that they really don't think they know what they're doing it's not as hard as people think but it's. It's the kind of thing that may be also can be intimidating pitcher Todd Syverson is here with me. We grew up together -- in town from Denver I thought it might be nice to have -- to talk about collecting his -- we did that as kids. And then had a card store for a few months on Grand Island the point isn't it. At all ask anybody or talk about the store specifically that you and I opened but. I wonder if people go back to those time those those days in collecting if a lot of other people did that or even and even. You're bringing it to present day. Something that I haven't done yet but I think about doing is setting up at a show tonight it's always the same. It's always the same thought process in my head when a show comes around I think I ought to do that I've got all this stuff that I really don't. I really don't cherish like I've got some pretty good value in my collection that. I would never think to mention if somebody asked me what I had largest he really doesn't mean enough to mean. So what I should do is clean it out right I mean that's. That's obviously the the play but then I just think well I'm gonna have to get cases. That I don't have and I'm going to have to really. You know got a baby and all of got a take all the time necessary to do all that. And it's just it's of it comes to feel like it's a massive undertaking. If anybody has any suggestions or advice about that I mean you go to a card show when you see lots of people there who are not in business. But they're set up. I think you can see some at least usually. We'd like to hear your your thoughts on that got a question about collecting -- like that we always are open to that to hear. You can give us a call 8030550. Or 1888550. 2550. Do you have enough of your collection left to. To have to work with like what he what do you have left.
I -- I have most I don't I really. Liquidated anything I've got most of it left I don't know that it's stuff that people are tested and right now I'm not sure it's bulk of the stuff is in the seventies and eighties and -- nothing's graded so I don't know. If it's some that it is -- put it wanted to show the -- beat them he puts it or not -- they're valued me it's not anything else but.
and weakened condition is such a big part of that it's it's funny how. With. You have the sentimental side of it and you have that the you know the the business side of it and if you have cards that you know you handled like we do. From those years whatever years they are sort of going back at least I -- 25 years. In you have something that will look pretty good in the price guide. But won't look pretty good. Most the time if you're putting it on the table card show -- right you need to have these days pretty much not not always go back Canada. -- the sixties earlier. Then now you can get away -- Stuff that is not in as good condition just common sense it's it's funny to me to see. I mean big cards like metal rookies and cards like that I guess that makes sense but even. It would -- called decent cards from from the vintage years 4050 years ago you can see those -- for. You know not great money but but pretty go to -- just being vague about this. But you can see you'll you'll see those cards cell if you had good stuff from the sixties that was in mediocre condition. If you're wanted to sell them probably could seventies and raise its offer. How about some your favorites I know you grew up cardinals fan which was you know. Disappointing. But I know Ozzie Smith was it was a big favorite of yours.
And I I don't I have. Not a lot of cardinal cards that I a of the -- Willie Mickey rookie and he was always my fair play right no no value their but a card that I like because he was my favorite grownup I don't understand that -- that -- really -- It was. Based --
The face that -- his handsome look at what's Chris mostly these static. Of McGee data cardinals and you're big into. What the Steelers that was pre short lived -- a rookie at parliament -- football cards good shape. Byrd is dole is it is excellent spirits and that's big card -- nets have anyone who.
Cal Ripken traded -- was it was a neat Wallach is hardly anybody had it I don't know if it's more popular now but it is hardly anyone candidates in good shape I thought you had USF -- cards but I guess you don't they'll never been snowed just just the Jim Kelly's second year ago that's a set I wish I had 8485 --
They come around -- but very much lately is they they come around select or impossible to get. Could I say that because and singer saying I'd love to have that well to probably go get one somewhere but 8485 USFL you remember. Those days is like how obscure thought that seemed 84 like we had a friend Paul who would go in need somehow end up with those cartons.
All those we should get Emily why would we -- by US Elsa.
Right it did and didn't seem it didn't seem right while the eighty Forsett has the real Jim Kelly rookie in Europe when your favorites of again like many fans around here. 84 Houston gamblers. And this I'd like to hear your your opinion on this give give little thought you would taught and maybe go get some calls on this too we've talked about on the show before. I have a hard time identifying. What the best buffalo sports card would be. And -- one problem I have what I try to figure it out. As you know it it's a -- a gain you can you can play what is the definitive. Buffalo card. One problem I run into is that. The best buffalo sports teams ever had those bills teams I would say mean they were so good for so long. And Jim Kelly Hall of Fame player quarterback of the team obviously you might well not obviously but you might start there. And his rookie card is Houston gamblers not only is it not the bills that even in the leak. So that that to me that injures. The idea of that card up at the buffalo that the fighting buffalo sports card beat Houston gamblers. So I think about Thurmond's rookie which is pretty great. Bruce's rookie is an eight dollar card we talked about it last week. And I don't know after that I guess I can think about OJ or some other players but it's not easy for read it to. Think about to figure out what the the best buffalo sports card you could have is not are not talking about. Prices exactly but just what the the defining one releases.
Yeah from the best -- I've got is probably the Thurman rookie. And it's cool picture this schools that it's just a good card have the blue bruised and under read rookies are boring they're just -- faces that.
89 dispute over the score -- scored yet that's the real one thing right that's -- that's a -- As what one thing about that set that makes it so it's one of the few sets from those years that people still like and and by her and that's one of it was the photography one reason for it was the photography of Topps cards largest. Close ups forever -- the right yes and yeah I'll Patrick rookies wouldn't be at buffalo. Right. Right so yeah I don't know. That's that's you have the bills teams -- have dom and there's there's trouble there for this is we've talked about the FOJ in him shall bear. Maybe usual there is a better pick because. He's not in jail right you know compare with OJ. So we've talked about it before but it's as Chris Todd and I are here talking about. Our experience is collecting his kids in in the area thinking about buffalo sports cards and it's another it's another chance to up to open that conversation up. If you have something in your collection or in your garage whatever the case may be some and you found you wanna ask about. I'm here for you have as well as Todd is to to discuss that -- we can about it and we invite you to call with your questions 8030550. Is the number of one other subject don't get into today is Tiger Woods some people are wondering just what's happening to tiger and collecting with his. To say the least his status having taken a hit his stature. And I've got a little bit of information for you on that some some opinions for on that too. Anything collecting related we're here for your comments and questions and we will play the damn cave game to -- you only heard about it Barry. It it really is something you wanna be able to experience. I I think 8030550. Is our number live on Saturday morning Mike show pure Todd Simpson on the hobby on WGR.
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I -- show welcome back to the hobby and WGR Sports Radio 550 you can text us now. 55550. Is the number let us know lawyers thinking. Todd Simpson is here with me today fellow Grand Island native now living out west. -- out of you know the guys from your -- cards. They were on Michael's on the show from your return numbers last name Renault but I'm freezing up. Six letters he was on the show a few weeks ago and dealer out in Denver. Not do not know him I've stumped you already that when -- in the second segment of the show. -- today and I know that when you go out to Kosovo -- and you go out to eat in Denver. Sometimes you'll hear references to the dank -- game but you've never been around for a rendition a lot of that the restaurant record -- it up again casa -- In Denver the one place I -- out there. Then. I thought Todd because your here. And we opened up our store for whatever -- five days or something in 1990. Or so maybe the summer of ninety was that 89. Knows that -- Okay it was it was all right on the -- bring the card boom. And then eventually the crash not too long after that I thought we should ask -- a question about a a card from those years. I get the questions allotted on here on the show people were just passing by the show -- yeah I've got some old baseball cards. What should I do with them what do you have I've got pro set football. You should start a fire. Probably if that's something you'd like to do or you should actually mean you don't wanna burn them necessarily but you might wanna give them to kids. Oh -- and do him gross that they were so good what ignited. Yeah they were there was 88 or 900 cards in the two series and his. Yeah. Most. Pictures of like the Super Bowl. More were in or in that set the borders. Right coaches. We'll get to the then came game and ask him a question about a card from those years in just a moment let's bring Scott in first or you Scott.
I'm -- thank -- very much for asking good morning Harry says don't do the things. But -- wanted to switch gears a little bit obviously being in shrapnel. I talk a little are you hurt mean yeah I'm -- tiger. You know -- career sort of it shouldn't you know back in force there the last couple years and it rookie -- Wanted to get your opinion on non. You know how you feel that it -- might be.
Well it's it's very much like that conversation mergers having. About football early ninety's his stuff. And you -- I don't have a a book in front of me but it's I'm thinking it's -- ten -- fifteen dollar part at the most I'm thinking a Todd has some right -- PG premier.
And -- enemy -- to your point about his career in music you know Hall of Fame career and it may not even be over -- playing in Europe. The -- He's he's a great. By any thing even Broder who's from that score set goes to maybe thirty box -- most guys from those years. Just you just can't. They are so many of them. That I just don't see there being much appreciation. I mean in terms of money. Oh yeah -- over the the French lindros yet the scorecards from those years. So you've got a great player but I just don't see where those cards are going to being so many of them. Okay Scott I wish I could tell you exactly what the -- Goes for blood on it is really not much of at this -- with so little. But Yahoo! we forgetting -- lindros. Who was up for for the Hall of Fame but to make it this year -- will make it. -- her of course we'll make it. You have Brendan Shanahan and even Brett Hull who goes back -- set that was tied with this bomb attack in 86. At the yen or rule later maybe I don't know I don't know I was out of those are sold only. 8788. Those -- were so ugly every sport and what their problem as but the design was released. Or you do a deal you hardly have any of those hockey cards in the thumb -- And and on the mean and the football cards were ugly. I don't know what the problem is that and score came around and upper deck at the right time with than those cards were just that. And of course the cards from Denny's. Grassley. That that we went and purchased religiously. For a little while there a lot of they. Could start. Yes here's Rudy dexterity.
I -- You. Are not -- morning guys touch it -- something. I grew up my other. There is and the sparks and and yeah actually add you know as agents for much insurance and let. You know French connection memorabilia Jupiter are obviously my favorite. You got the -- carrying. Act the they actually get to carry the Altria. Com and are signed by Altria on the suspect that they actually late last I just thought that was.
Yeah that -- that's Greg this is this is your your dad's collection you said.
Why have I actually obviously tribute stood in Albany area you won't get here in the air not. And being hired to make -- about it Dominic action on them. Com on a you know. Hacking your autographed Michael during her. Soft. He actually work into that -- in mean masks that we're actually warned that a player's. It was always.
An analyst at school that I like the don't. Good stuff or are you asking about and this stuff for you just tell us about it I mean it sounds like you've got a lot of great stuff there.
Are you brought it out very early data out with a -- outlook sport have. I figured it you're -- gonna go or carrot from buffalo it's going to be a -- well you know an autograph. -- night.
Very good not yet thank you thank you Rudy understand you're you're talking specifically that question we were asking before. Yet the other time I mentioned this idea somebody called about that French connection card and I have again forgotten what year it is it's not. From their rookie years. But maybe 73 or four there's a card with the three of them have seen it on it. -- that that's a good that's a good school choice for that. As a kind of guys in uniform I don't know the value but it would need that much -- need to. -- outlook yes if anybody is wondering about. Value with French connection is still pretty good. And our gulf turn amend. Whenever that was a couple of weeks ago there was some memorabilia being auctioned off. With all three autographs on it a picture to -- Jersey you're too. And that's still -- still does well. I think that's the way to go to. I mean you certainly could collect those autograph separately as well. But I love the idea of a French connection -- the three guys together I mean their numbers are retired together they hang together. As as a group. So. I like that idea as a collectible piece for sure whether it's -- Jersey picture whenever. Here's Dan next Qaeda and look at the show.
Yeah -- gets more photographs stopped but I I know I'm not I think that you may have little large grip baseball so what what the and if you added.
Price yeah come. Few hundred dollars I would think as long as it it if you were to wanna sell it you might have to. Do something to prove it's legit if you can do that I think that's -- I mean Mickey Mantle -- Is is -- level ozone in the hobby.
And I don't know you remember the company called portable would make a about they do not like you know Bob 1998. I don't had a lot of autographs stop. They edit autographed signatures that bill would autographed. Our football rookie in every in every -- We're like. 88 or nine dollars a pack it. In the united Greg I didn't do it not mobile split its complete -- to. It's really hard to get -- with some really interesting I agree entered right in beyond. His -- grip which really limited in his was sitting there and with. Running business into the eighty -- it was your idea for epic to John Carter. And I got him at all great -- got hurt blog is yes it for him.
Yeah I suppose at some point thank you Dan at some point today any dimension Stephen strasburg they've made it. A regular thing out of it he's on the disabled list oh yeah and you economic reality is and he went on the DL with some shoulder. Soreness or stiffness I think is probably closer. But without those suffering. -- suffering the host down. Having. Being someone who is bought mistrust for rookie thank you Dan let's so let's put their -- speaking of Dan's. One great player not talked about that often. From the early ninety's we we got the call from Toronto about yarder. Another great player from the early ninety's -- rookie cards from the early ninety's at least Frank Thomas. -- and I were talking about him. During the break you remember that he went to Auburn in previous tops card is him in Auburn uniform I think it is with the number one draft pick. Logo on it. I'm thinking about. We'll explore its focus on that card since that's the one. You and I were talking about did cave a lot of great sports fan thank you not. Card knowledgeable. Really but that's that's -- that's -- most sports fans are not. -- a horse once that would run it would by name -- says -- seventy -- let's hear you guests at the book price of 1990 tops Frank Thomas rookie card.
All right you know what I think I actually had discard. Go looking I wanna say I did is I can picture him was -- over so he was he kneeling over a base or it looks like he just slid into a base maybe standing over a base has Auburn uniform yet he might have been. I'm gonna guess standing like me even playing first base I can I can picture to my -- about it makes me think that -- actually had -- woman that's -- distribution Elvis I absolutely should -- us. Because I checked via. I check the status once a week Frank Thomas Topps rookie 1999 -- 414 opt for fourteen. Let's go where it is -- great at all no no great great raw Frank Thomas -- note ninety.
You do you really do yeah you're doing well thank you haven't gotten that given gonna guess help which is doing great 1990. You should worry too much about grey goose from those years. Everything's nice pretty much Watsco --
Seven dollars seven dollars a very modest. Yes rate and use you do that for reason you know that those years are not upper the last -- two dollars Coke at a -- right up I think a nice dealer would probably. Most guys would give you one if you wanted to for it -- Hall of Fame player for sure no steroid. Implications. At all it's a big member frank Thomas and I was young that he was a specimen. I went to see him one time it the skydome and sat right final plate just to see. What Frank Thomas looked like up close and -- just like oh my god no -- this guy's great obvious. But I mean he was even I think he was even someone who testified. -- in congress with Schilling. Against steroids like he wasn't called to have me to explain himself. Two books. That he's a great right I mean Frank Thomas. Loopy swing -- for. Right right. As a right handed hitter to as power hitter. There's a there's an terror card of that card by the way that pokes at 700. And Ramona. Complicate things for Dan. That with the terrorists. But there's -- there's a rare Frank Thomas error card from that same said the books at 700. While I was going to ask you about policy I mean that's just -- really trip I don't wanna make this hard for now. Take the win went well you will -- off by 350%.
I was with him the ball and what -- Sorry -- you're in the ballpark. I mean I've been all my fault tolerance. Policy. That absolutely right in the name with rookie within five bucks that's -- difference are finding and fine it's the holidays.
give -- all right more on the hobby you're coming up next if you have a call like Dan and Scott and it will as I forgot about as they are sorry. Who called us up 8030550. Is the number we're until 9 o'clock I might -- Todd Simpson is my guests former co owner of Grand Slam cards. Here is -- cave with sports on WGR. Welcome back to the hobby I might show Todd Simpson is with me childhood friend also.
someone that. He you know I went into a cards stored together it wasn't. Their furlong but it was on the do and I took the liberty of inviting taught in tested relive some of those days in. One thing you were telling me about reminding me about during the commercial break was. That the upper deck football set we talked about this a little bit a minute ago how you will waited in line to pay a hundred dollars for a box that.
Like KB toys Javier something like that I got it there and yet lose a hundred bucks because I got a day earlier some -- paid twenty bucks extra for it I was so excited for it and it's garbage now.
that's right. But I just remember how exciting that was. And how much resentment there was from from collectors especially. You know kids may be like gossip about upper deck being so expensive share the caller Dan mentioned front row which I don't remember -- Eight or nine dollars a pack -- stuff started to come out like that. Premier stadium club right that was maybe five dollars a pack and it was mean people applauded but it was kind of an outrage.
Right when you pay and thirty cents a pack when you need mid eighties first. It's galleries. It was probably an outrage to some that cards cost as much as a dollar a pack. Or fifty cents even in the mid to late eighties when it was you you know used to be a few cents or whatever but that. That I think you can just understand but then it jumped upper -- came along. And changed it. And being give you better looking cards. Better quality overall. And just just change the hobby and then it went like we went crazy for a few years and in the bottom fell out but. I I'm always wanting to say this when I focus on those years. The it's we're not here I'm not here every week because the hobbies dead. It's not only still going because people are buying cards from the fifties. There is a lot of new stuff that's interest thing it's different now you're not building the set is often. You can easily build a set now just buying up a box of some product it doesn't take much to do that but now it's about she saying. Autographs. And that's just how it's how it's different it's more of a gambling mindset doesn't have to be if you have kids wanna get into it that's easy to do. And I still encourage people to do that cards are fond of fun to play with. You can hold them freedom look at the pictures trade them and is still fun to do that. All right let's get George in your next -- George go ahead.
I'd like I have. That's our dog that my -- about a month or so although it via. He didn't have baseball signed by -- by cutting back in the last. Any last Philadelphia eighteen to play in Philadelphia. -- and just one certified by. Almost all the wires. Really -- after -- cannot -- it was a rookie of the year and yet here.
What are we talking likely forties. Our Mac computer but this. 5354. That's big and I don't know that team well enough I don't know -- are earning only giving. I don't it.
Yeah that -- that it oriented guy.
Oh I'd love to see pictures of it. Connie Mack is on there that's cool mean Connie Mack was what fifty years he owned and ran that teams so. That's I would think the key figure there's you've got him. I couldn't give your number George email me if you want I'd I'd love for you to -- with media scanner or something or picture mean scans tough on a baseball -- I'd love to be able to communicate with you about it and find that what you do with that that's pretty great.
Yeah by. My dad -- and -- pay. Don't get it then can I get that ball a bit.
The Atlanta. Well like I won't get into that but and I'm glad you called us about it that sounds pretty cool you can email me show SCH OPP -- WGR 550. Dot com it's how to get to meet the -- the hobby but I'd recommend that the email with my name -- it. And anytime you have -- thing that your curious about a love getting back an email I mean I really love it. A ball like that sounds fun and I think be funded to talk about that and find out what happens to. -- can get much in the tiger. I can't can't give you now in the amount of time I have left and he kind of breakdown of what's happening to the tiger market if you will but it's slipping. Not drastically. But I think I think go little by little. You're starting to see prices on tiger calmed down of course prices on tiger are big to begin with. So if you're looking at an autographed. Peace. You you -- flags that he's autograph or shorts. Certainly a lot of pictures and portraits. You're you're still looking at hundreds of dollars for a nice or more for a nice tiger item. But it was bigger. I saw the SP authentic Tiger Woods rookie and I think there are 999. Of them and -- Like 80% sure that's right the SP authentic tiger rookie I saw a graded. Nine point five. Copy of that -- sell on eBay last week for 3200 dollars. So you know you're you're not a teacher know you're not stealing a Tiger Woods rookie right now just because of all his problems but it is cheaper than it was. So take that for what it's worth thanks for coming in times Iceland -- revisiting some of these of these days with Leo. And maybe when you get out to Denver you have a you have the body again I don't know we'll see it's tough. We were grown ups now we've got lives to live in -- with the kids -- things get in the way about the hobby is still fun for Leo I hope Camby for you. All right thanks for listening everybody will be back next Saturday morning at eight email me call me next week when everything is right and have a great weekend this is -- hobby on WGR.
