Card collecting hats you used to do it when you were a kid then. Then you -- way to college and mom through all your cards a way I heard that one before -- that was then and this is now card collecting his big business now card to your heroes that your mom -- are still out there and sometimes they fixed six figures you can spend hundreds of some new products and -- make a profit how does it all -- these days well. Welcome to dot hobby WG yards and -- -- -- to keep collectors up to speed on the latest trends and let everyone else knows just how bad. Fast in the lucrative collecting -- convenient -- WG yards most avid collector. Mike showed. Hi everybody I'm might show listening live on. Saturday morning here August 7 I guesses. Thanks for being with me today this is the hobby. You can't give me called between now and 9 o'clock if you've got a question or comment. About cards about memorabilia collecting 8030550. Is the number it's a big week. Every week this week in the in collecting because it's national week. The national carton convention or a collector's convention rather in Baltimore. What this year it's in Baltimore is under way. And the biggest story at the nationals this year. Is that once again. The FBI is there. Which I think many collectors. Know who are up right and aren't trying to achieve other people. The distinction unfortunately in this hobby you have to make -- that's not. Everybody. I think most collectors might have mixed feelings about that and I do -- talk about that little bit. Our old friend read cause Oka who is. Down in Baltimore will join mean. And we will have a conversation with them not so much about about the the investigation the FBI. Looking into. The hobby for examples of whether it's forgeries -- hard alterations different things Michael O'Keefe who's been on the show for the New York Daily News has an article. About it that would that ran the other day. And he explains he's. Super knowledgeable bottled stuff and explains how this year's investigation is different than other years and it's not it's a little bit reminiscent of the that the at that time where we were just. Bombarded with updates on the Mitchell report Mitchell investigation in baseball to seem like baseball couldn't get out of its own way. With regard to steroid allegations in drugs in -- -- it was just a long time it really of course isn't done. But it was a long time were the dominant story in that sport was drug use. And in in collecting. And like I know that we have listeners. And even callers who. Very tremendously. In terms of there. Their involvement in collecting met most of the calls we get are from people who are not collectors anymore but. Either still have something that they wanna know about or. Know something or their dad has something like it's not usually from people who are really into I haven't. A guest on a great job of of getting much of a conversation going among collectors who Lawrence's new products or have opinions about Bobby. But I do I do also say. I guess in my own defense and I also think that there's aren't a lot of people who are in that category there are enough to to do this and when I say before that the you have different. Different levels of involvement among people in the audience you know you have people who are just not into it but they wanna know about something. And we have people who who are into it that the call a lot but a lot of email I get is. Thanks for doing it. I I am so glad to have a show or I can licences and talk about with my friends different issues that you bring up and it's it's really. It's really -- thankful tone. And I I think. When you talk about this this investigation. Type stuff that's going on now and it's happened before mass stroll auctions which went -- her. It it brings it brings up. A necessary. Conversation about collecting just that especially when you're talking about autographed items but. As this latest development brings to light not only. Autograph pieces -- alteration great. I I've tried to -- to find for myself. Not for the purposes of this show but just from my own personal satisfaction I've tried to find for myself. Sort of a cubby hole in in collecting where I can protect myself from anything like that I don't wanna have to. Not only -- -- -- -- not wanna have to worry about. -- pieces of mine -- tampered with have been tampered with -- authentic things like that. Not only do I not -- have to worry about that I wouldn't like to think about it. And that's a dilemma I face on the show like I like to think about this this Fed's business. The idea of of the national this week which I mean it's a lot of different types of types of -- scenes that this national it's it's bedlam on the floor of this convention center went last year to Cleveland. Four and you -- you see everything. All kinds of all the wax you can imagine all the metal rookies in and just big stop everything in between everything that the -- is seems to. Show up at this at the national. But then you also see a lot of quirky stop assist if it's this crazy scene. And the idea of the the this investigation playing out amidst that scene is just it's a little weird and it permeates. Troubling. Obviously because I don't want the hobby to be. You know to be like that but. It is like that. It's it's I think totally. Mean who might say but I think it's totally reasonable. That there would be these investigations. And honestly and I might. I might regret not handling this kind of thing differently. Down the road but. I hear stuff because of access that I get from the show. I hear things from people in in the hobby that I don't wanna know I don't wanna know about. Whether cards can be. Taken out of of -- holders and and altered altered -- tampered with and improved in the re graded. I mean that's not to say that. I should act like the existence of that isn't isn't a real. But I just have a tough time figuring out what to do about that and Michael O'Keefe to me and not not everybody in in the hobby is a big fan but I think -- he's doing an important job. Four for those of us who are not. Crooked for those of us who just wanna be able to put sets together and not. Concern ourselves too much with. You know what's been -- or -- what's what's. Legit and what's counterfeit different things like that and and I I should say that. You don't half to. Collect in a way that subject yourself to these kinds of things you can. You can put sets together of cards and they're not yet if you're not necessarily worried about how they greed kind of condition everything's in -- you're not just. Super intense about that. Then you -- their story about anything if you're not collecting autographed pieces of big names in the hobby you shouldn't have to worry about anything. But if you are -- night. I'm open to that I like the idea of of by dabbling in some in in the high rent district if you will once in awhile. And and -- that you can -- we always have to question which you know you do but -- to the to the extent that there are FBI investigations that card shows. That it that it could be that. Crooked mean the FBI. I've got I think is not bothering. With any kind of mean. -- -- there are crimes where you're gonna see five cop cars there are crimes when you know somebody's pick -- -- just does nothing that the police are gonna be able to do. I would think that the FBI has enough to concern itself -- That for it to be at the national. And to be investigating sports memorabilia. I mean needless to say thirties to be some pretty good money being. You know you legitimately. Earned it is there's gotta be a reason for the FBI to be there it's got to earn the FBI detention. And again that's that's pretty obvious and this is the third FBI investigation in the card collecting in like three years. So come on here. I've got a friend who does a lot of collecting and even for all the money he spends. He says he will not buy anything autograph it unless he has seen. The the -- put to the paper. And you know its its all well and good for people to buy autograph pieces that have. Certificates of authenticity. Often say just rolls off the top. Make sure you have a certificate of authenticity if you wanted to sell an autograph peace another question -- lot how to sell this. 1969 New York Mets ball. Well to be able to sell it online you'll need to prove that they -- -- via autographs are authentic but how do you do that. So you have Joe -- cards. From Dubuque Iowa. Supply a piece of paper that says they were witness to the signatures. To -- -- -- PSA. The leader in the industries and the PSA. For. That authentication. And do you know. That you mean you can't really know we have the president of the company on the show you can you really know of course now. So well on you have to have a certain. I guess you have to be kind of just realistic about what this all is and -- to be very careful. If it matters to you legitimacy of what -- buying -- and might I suggest please. Do not cuts do not settle. For some thing autograph lies that just seems too good to be true. I mean there are people in Western New York. That are notorious. For forging autographs. A couple of them were who have been in the business in in dealing. And I mean if you if you have this. Mohammed Ali. Autograph. Boxing glove that someone wants 200 dollars for. It's not real like just try to do a little homework. And and try to figure out as best you can just -- what what you're buying and what you're dealing with who you're dealing with especially. So it got up it puts a damper on things in in the hobby but it also it's necessary I support. And anything. Anything. Whether it's the investigation itself whether it's newspaper coverage of it any attention brought to it anything. That can clean all this up. Because it's a reason why I got out collecting twenty years ago. It just. There was just too much garbage too many lies. And you know it's it's not it's not something if this is not an industry that. We we need that to change is I guess all it all mean to say it could be could be just a lot better too or morally legitimate. But that the the other side and started rhetoric beginning middle that'll shut up about this. The other side of it is if it ends up that a lot of the big hitters in in the industry. Our. One way or another cheating you. Then the whole thing dies I think so we've got to be careful about that hopefully there are enough reputable dealer tonight I wanna say that there are. That some that we can make it through but. Get get rid of these these shill bidders get rid of this call this card alteration alteration nonsense get rid of these. These these jokers who really part of a black guy bring a black -- -- hobby. 8030550. Is that number right there's my sermon we got Hall of Fame induction weekend in football it's tonight I believe. Emmett Smith and Jerry Rice to of seven going and we'll talk about their rookie cards a little bit. -- costs Oka as I said in will be about ten minutes from now. Talking about the national some of the fun things that are going on down there things that do not pertain to. The FBI. Here is Brian on the -- morning Brian. I'm excited like that -- I actually want to national ballpark figures for our -- our first I'm not going to likely -- part of -- stereo. What a little smaller and are actually Steelers know having. I know you've been any tax -- you aren't the sort. Started Archie to get through most it will one day actually it was used and difficult to get there it is Steelers. Actually it's English and he showed notable show. Are you a bit more red -- story starts errands don't buy it obviously -- I think the YE a table -- our. -- out was greatly most this is actually tomorrow it's very Strasbourg sang them. And I think most of the pops -- -- That was -- our borrowers column I don't -- go to known and don't do it well. Oral say it's safe thing though is that you know stay with mr. Burton stopped mr. all right so. Yeah I bet a lot too Brian but done. I don't know like that that's what they say about all the guys the release. Shoot way up on the charts that they would've said that about LeBron they would've said that about Sidney Crosby I imagine too so sometimes sometimes. To -- if it seems to buy it it might might seem that way but they're still there's still some growth potential. Well definitely there are stressed are your news there that failed it's seen. I think the Kurdish held heavy tactical people now it'll al-Qaeda first eight years it's art they convention. Our own. At the Cleveland -- -- Tuesday. Night's late treat RD circuit and then Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday. But our this year export this and I didn't -- out there they wanted to party dealers saying what this is not a bad. Our parking is expensive it's very tight area right well -- are -- smart. Column. Actually he immediately to have Charlie and it actually use difference you don't need to get an -- And Canada Kabul heroes for the man he actually did that it was -- -- and -- surprised. Pocket perfectly when you see the Oscars were people aren't open you know -- formation. And at that. -- -- -- -- -- Just so I don't end up -- my my shoulder just can you tell me something quickly that was really interesting to use some item you saw. Only so she refused personal Blackberry and picked -- This is horrible mental. And it apparently interject here through. On all the shuttle is our street -- six. Because that -- -- surgeon -- actually tables and even a little more than in the past I think it was very much I don't wanna trade aren't prepared for cash and it occurred of this show from the dealer I was a little. More growth I personally believe -- get an extra money NYT bandit. Okay thank you Brian I just -- I didn't mean to be short the just thinking that not not too many listeners right now are planning a trip to go. And that's why one of the sort of limit how much we be talking about where you can park. But Tom you know that the national is these. Show all of the year comic books to. Now they're probably I don't know comic books are probably other bigger comic book god conventions does in the one. Comic con or something is that right -- you know yet it has had in San Diego again say India is that's all we gotta do it discovered. National it's been out there and joking but it out to San Diego Baltimore Cleveland. You know right ask yourself would LeBron play there. And and if you say yes that you want your card convention there that's what I that's I would do it. -- costs -- coming up we'll have time for more phone calls later on 8030550. Is the number and what you can do. Rookie card wise for the pro football hall of famers to be as induction night is tonight -- the latest on that. Couple of them most of them I would say out of the group pretty cheap. 8030550. The number I might show this is the hobby on WGR. I might -- welcome back Dave Buchanan producing today. And of Dave. Might have a theme going with the music choices -- -- maybe a lot of dealers at the national or uptight because the feds are there. And see if you haven't been running your business honestly good luck to you hopefully have been you don't have to worry about it. That's pretty much kind of a way to live by a word salute by what you think. Read -- -- from baseball card exchange formally David Adams we've had read on many times it's been awhile though Reid is in Baltimore have them on in just a moment. Let's get Tim on for his question quickly first attempt. Yeah I'm orient the stroke court. I -- so I pulled and old Bible sort sought. Ultimate parent skirt on number one -- 25. And it's dot com Hispanic -- over Perot ought -- -- On market size like operate this scarcity. It would just wandered off. But let's look like that's work. Who was just wondering. Are being. Or your son -- okay yes thank you I missed I missed that part. Are you know just I I couldn't give you number which -- gonna do with a card like that. Is look for even though the early 25 of them it's enough that you might see one once in awhile. You might wanna look on and on eBay to see if if there's a sale you know you you're looking to autograph maybe. Thirty or forty dollars for those two players probably too much more. But. That's just that's just an approximation by me condition matters and I don't I don't know the card so well to Italy with the market exactly is. -- -- Let's bring -- read. From Baltimore -- the national is well under way read UV got. He got enough energy left for another day or two down there. Yeah table book first -- -- -- you know a couple of iron. -- sorry to drag on it'll make it. You think what's nice to talk to get -- things with a baseball card exchange. They can get -- few months I've been all over the country already. And I'm definitely enjoyed it you'll still be on the road Biden collection all the plays -- out of the core from hole so even better. Good for you -- will tell me what to your observations are. Of the national so far this year in Baltimore. Well it's part of Baltimore city in the location of everything so the restaurant with an entire electorate is that it could -- yet. The walker for. You know for a hot sticky but you know Baltimore got a good job -- welcoming us. And might have a ballpark where our strategy so there's a lot institute. As -- showgirls. There have been. What I wanted -- -- a pretty good for a location. You know first allocation. People that work so that convicted the travel. You know. Letting his pocket -- public Massachusetts and coming from the neighboring states. Coming -- or what and all the quiet about it because you know. You bylaws stock -- and Obama. So. I'd say. Having an awkward -- -- sure. Many people from chocolate and rational one big show here you're gonna go wherever it. You know that's enough about uplifting dead and I'm from the US they're quite. You know Stewart said that it would be okay we've been doing pretty well well on the -- so -- so. I expected but it's a pretty good national so far. Good baseball card exchange is the leading site in my opinion at least in the sure how much debate there is about this leading site on the Internet for. Buying on open vintage wax and that is right in -- wheel house here is you may know if you heard him on the show with me. Last couple years read it forward askew who is the national. Four among collectors like who was it really right for I guess you might say someone could say. It's for everybody I mean they'll they'll be so much variety of what's on on this site really it it it's for everybody and collecting but. Specifically. I might think it's best suited for collectors with a lot of money. That wanna be able to pick and choose between. Metal rookies or pick and choose between really deal -- cards which you would you agree that you see it that way. Yes if saw -- your notebook hard for a few particular cards. It nicely -- whose title I which useful because you don't know what's shown. All aspects will cause some people of course what's so confusing and you'll be able just spectacle impartial chocolate do you learn more about -- -- shot -- several years in my -- want that benefit you not only for what you expected on the card but for prices well. Oh yeah greater EPA has been for our industry and -- awkward questions. About their places in -- But got -- cards in question. Right and that that the rest of that point for me is having -- to last year's show and the show the hockey show in Toronto a few times. Going around the country a little bit and really it's not that I'm traveling more but it's -- hit a card store too when I am traveling. What I what I realize more and more is how the Internet. Has normalized all the prices you don't get a deal. On buffalo cards when you're in LA or vice Versa the Internet makes it so if they wanna sell Jim Kelly or Manny Ramirez or anybody. The prices are are all the same everywhere and they're all the same at that show too but if you. If you're you're talking about cards that just don't come around that often. That's a place the nationals a place where you're going to see where you might see multiple copies of them and that's when you're in business because. I mean read for a card I mean again I'll use the example of the 52 mantle. Like every vote is going to have 52 mantle's but you're you're gonna have the chance at being able to compare it played better examples car this little less rare. You'll be able to compare copies of them and and that's really what the national is best for I think. I very you know you're gonna write about you and you're about how -- it is mr. market must -- -- was. We're playing you talk about what we've aren't really aren't that well defined and you have several sources Jews. What the national. Yeah credit you last year in the local area local shall you might find 5% copies. And dealers do a good job. Quote unquote cheating at cards of the national. And if you if you have a nice card if you think you're gonna be able to find a lot of perspective buyers. What I do a little premium cable my car or use or you have that we -- national. And put additional forces or reported that the way forward. That yeah you could talk it away that you articulate it well it's nice thing to have your group. To chew up people to write and so it's not usual -- to Cedar Key cards specifically. -- and absolutely no. All of the fires -- are somewhat. Yeah and and then you're talking about a situation -- card could go over ball commit that certainly will happen. But it's I shouldn't limit the the you know of the ways in which this this convention is interesting just to that I mean its interest thing for anybody. That collect anything or that's never collected baseball cards what you see there is not just cards received. Bats and all kinds of different memorabilia jerseys everything anything you can think of is pretty much there I don't know if you if you anymore read our. If you probably are you have the youthful enthusiasm about all this. If you are really taken with new things that you come across at these shows are anywhere. Are are there any is there anything like that that comes to mind today thinking about this this week. Well you know because Stephen strasburg didn't demand right now. Baseball. You know positive it's -- -- where they were putting together now. Strasbourg charge throughout the show up here -- And it's me just national and if you look probable preakness post comments on people's so horrible -- -- -- public effort. Walking around the corporate well a lot of boots from all the manufacturers some of -- big we tellers. Some we smart especially companies would -- can -- because forward to over aphorisms or you -- -- -- apocalypse war. I'd open up after the boots and they'll give you additional bonus cards to go with you caucus helped support the plan. Product just. Hopefuls sweep of the Yankees throughout the week try starting a national other good setup. Or occasion will have an unexpected guest saw the different -- -- And so that a lot of things because if you don't have children twelve and under -- -- all week. So there are a variety just -- card but there's a variety of activities for all levels of collectors always report. Read -- -- baseball card exchange BBC exchange dot com with me he's in Baltimore for the national. Read two questions if I might free you won. This this FBI investigation I'm not looking good pitching any trouble or anything inside stuff you might have heard down there about what's going on. But -- just like a couple of of general opinions from you on. This now third FBI in investigation in recent years of of our hobby. One is just can you give me and and our listeners some. Idea from your perspective. How widespread. Of a problem we have fear now that this investigation is according to the New York Daily News report Michael O'Keefe. Less focused on underground for jurors than things like card alterations in shill bidding mean are we the place still. And in 2010 where the hobby as you see it as tremendous. Credibility issues. Well the reason why try to build a lot. I guess well I just -- twenty years because of the area and be a lot of these deals with people review of the caucus site and -- And that's what the reason why aren't creating an -- dedication. Has taken off because you need that extra level of security and actual level of assurance. To conduct deals -- from a distance. And so what you're court the first -- yeah investigations. One into outlook autograph as forgeries. You know this one. Is it Arkansas and it's a bit you know hand up indictments. The very few people know exactly what is going on and but what that seemed to know are really willing to -- the upper and so it actually comes out so they're they're probably -- -- appeared in the all the investigations. But doesn't sound like if it comes out do you know faltering heart because. You know better good article on our cart and official body art which. You know everyone suspect has been going on since -- that one of the former Internet options it's just. If possible or these very difficult to prove because. It's it's all settlement of all thought that I anonymously it's now like while sitting in -- world floppies. And holding up a bit of right. So. I wish we knew more. Until. -- and so and so that makes. If court records for it would you're you're doing news Spielberg -- -- were all kind of dark so we read the same things. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- okay and and I've also. Actually on FaceBook I read a comment you made about being there it being time for a dealer association you. Are you willing to explain a little bit like what what needs to happen to help clean this thing up. Fortunate that -- actually look at it and what what their kids. Several dealers got together at the request of -- -- -- one of the largest. What a lot collector of sports memorabilia. It in the country. And he requested -- -- Probably about 45 people around outlook did you know because of the of this crisis. And she expressed the concern that there's no. National voice for history. And it's been tried before. And it's literally caught on but you're minus. -- association. Industry. What -- collectibles. And manufacturing what we're -- me. We don't have a -- and in order to properly. I guess the centenary history. When you voice sweets some sort of group. That. Jet pooled their resources together perhaps someone. You know express. Our opinions on -- story that well and you know kind of this kind of what some of the best that people sick. It will be very stereotypical -- -- all of baseball our viewers what you think about the people you know it's a snippet from lawyers or you know she's cute as you can go on and on. We don't back -- -- reputation. And he -- she was just about trying to start something you. -- about or some sort of association so it's been talked about this week another meeting -- bytes to discuss with you further if you look you know the ground. And you know what your goals this isn't good ideas and then they're -- -- because. Frankly have there's very Columbia. Well I just hope on behalf of all collectors that just wanna. Play it straight here and enjoy all this. That A this investigation and ones like it don't end up. Just exploding the hobby or imploding it so that all all of these dealers who haven't been playing it straight go away and we really lose a lot of momentum. And V that we can just proceed as collectors without having to keep our heads in the sand mean you wanna be able to it. Indulgent greeting cards and and different aspects of the hobby. Without worrying about it or trying to figure out what you heard about this or that is legit it's just it's just not healthy so I am. I support all this weeding out of whatever nonsense is going on and in the hobby because it just it needs to go away. Thanks thanks -- okay. Better you know you're you're -- -- -- -- -- what your problem. The purchase decision you're gonna. Right that's true every nice to talk to -- again enjoy your weekend down there. Thank you -- -- -- baseball card exchange great exciting wax. Boxes to think about dream about on BBC exchange. Dot com on open. All right final thoughts from -- lines are open 8030515. That's what I'm looking at next time Mike show this is the hobby. On WGR. I Mike showed welcome back to the hobby no Dan -- game today. Small problem -- in cave but are now looking at -- as a problem actually bad choice of words Dave Buchanan is in for Dan and Dave not only. Dan. Noses sports but he knows cards a little bit so. And having a might have -- -- girlfriend here. Not you know be indiscreet but -- the first things you said to me was scored big points. Was as we're talking about. This show a little bit now wanted to mention something about the Hall of Fame induction tonight Jerry Rice on the list and you said you volunteered even. A comment about rice's cards that you have one. Yes not his rookie card is -- in your cart 87 tops. That set as. Little bit of personal meaning for meek says like the first packet cards they're -- -- -- -- -- 87 top football and that 49ers carrot is top -- all pro and it's him. Like you said it looks like he's thrown a -- back to passable or he's ran across popular something as -- vikings player on the ground. On the dirty candlestick. Just I I have that carried out his rookie card though is as you. Point out off sorry 8086 tops as a rookie -- right you're. Your your second year entry there. Well you know that the way you describe the picture. It's like he's looking to throw on a reverse or something yeah. I I could just spend. This is going to be embarrassing probably I could spend hours. Reminiscing about the pictures on certain cards in the name of dying. I'm not gonna know most of them but. Name the guy the year rookie cards that are more famous like we could just sit around and remember the pictures of those cards together in any collectors really fun for me to do that. At saint Celek Kelly's rookie clarity know how many of these -- Mittal on the sidelines where and the white wagers in an 87 yet. Right and that's his first NFL card yet. Who -- dog -- first NFL currently does that set for Chicago. I think -- Cunningham he was in the I think he had a bears -- 86 sitting. This is a bears -- seven I'm thinking ought to look that up. But rice and Emmitt Smith the two big headliners tonight the race card now you're dealing with most of these guys now. Who get in in football tries to get in as many people as they can. Most of these guys now are. From the late eighties or later. When card collecting changed. And with that you have rookie cards that are just pretty cheap Emmitt Smith rookie cards a couple of dollars a few dollars for a nice one. You know you're not gonna spend big money on that you can spend big money on rice. If you get into the nine and certainly the ten area PSA ten that's a four figure card but. You don't need to you go into a -- store and see decent Jerry Rice repeat probably around fifty dollars. Which you know is expensive for cards of those years also going in tonight. -- missing one name. Russ Grimm yup and Ricky Jackson both 84 tops. Ricky Jackson went their -- back cheap Garcia. Saints what business to these guys having. Have being in the pro football. Ricky Jackson now I don't know you. You -- Dick LeBeau Floyd little and John Randle Floyd little as the name I didn't have -- Floyd little and Dick. The bowl ever rookie cards from the sixties the ball might be. 65. Philadelphia -- on one of those years. And Floyd -- going to be mid to late sixties tops AFL. Or even 689 when it was the whole -- immature but. And John Randall we -- looking at ninety years so in there 909192. Early nine in the cheap card. Floyd little. Underrated player here Denver Broncos AFL great running back from the AFL so the Hall of Fame. Is just like it is for these men in their personal lives and as. As corporate entities if you will like these guys it becomes. Another career for them when they get in the Pro Football Hall of Fame not for right -- mean those guys are already. Legends and I don't know much more of a of a bomb -- get but a player like. Just like Ricky Jackson. Becomes a commodity now because a lot of people just collect all the famers. And -- up in in the case of a player like that and I would say -- alarm earlier in in buffalo is a player like this. Big they'll be. Bill B. Called for the occasional. Card show in buffalo or in New Orleans and -- Jackson's case. Hey it's an anniversary season we have players from the 1987 saying to the 1973 bills. On hand and and -- one of those guys and you know in terms of what they might be able to command for their autograph. Yuma -- looking at ten or fifteen dollars. Once they become hall of famers. It's way different. They don't turn into Jerry Rice automatically. Or John Elway. But it's just like. That the interest in them from collectors goes way up there are people who just collect hall of famers it's a neat way to do it I've often said on the show. I think teams are really fun to explore for collecting. Dmitri Young. Longtime. Baseball player Dmitri Young. Who has been on the show to talking about his world class. Graded vintage car collection. He -- He I I read that at the national he's selling off his that is cards. But his baseball collection he's got. An autographed ball everybody in the 500 home run club 45 guys -- the guy saw me that's gonna be Babe Ruth and and -- lot and that's some big names to say the least. Where that I start that the hole there the FEMA idea 500 home runs. Thousand yard rushers for team I don't know it depends how much you wanna do. But I think there are some really really cool ideas there. And hall of famers is the simplest one you can think I mean this these are going to be great players there's a pretty good number you talk about a couple hundred guys and in -- sport. And on the -- you can just go about and make request of collecting something from each of these guys so all favorites -- big deal in collecting. When these announcements come out about who's going in and tonight is not that of course tonight is induction night. In the NFL. -- the pro football thing to be specific to be right. We we talked about the FBI investigation. At the at the national what's going on a hobby right now. Let me just plug the best place to go. Four. News about about this sort of thing in news in collecting these sports collectors daily I would say is probably the best site for that certainly a good one. And if you wanted to read about what's going on collecting missile linked the New York Daily News article that Michael O'Keefe wrote. And other different reports from the national reports on on the hobby you wanna go to sports collectors daily for that. The golf guy's head Jim Huber an hour ago little bit more than an hour ago Jim Huber from TNT. I forgot to ask Brian cozy old as he left if if he even knows he might know. What else does a guy like that do. He does interviews for TNT. At golf tournaments. TNT covers may -- -- golf tournaments. British Open PGA. Their own TV made Grand Slam of golf thing. Like a much work is that. So I'd be curious than on short of look at up what else he does but because got four Emmys or something like he's. Accomplished. But. In a university of her so -- insurance I don't know I was wondering that listening to it was a very it was very cordial conversation. Between him and and Brian and and mark backer mark pacer in your political show but. Which is curious thinking listening Jim Huber Dave like what what else does this guy do you know that most of the the sports guys you see them. Covering different sport to see them all the time is enough. Even Johnny Miller. Like you see there's enough. Coverage NBC does enough golf coverage you'd see him you know quite quite a lot but. Seems like he doesn't -- Maybe some rating on the -- or something not so much TNT real quick make myself feel old John Randall's rookie card 91 pro set by the way. Processor rookie and -- hall of Famer. Yeah you know what did you mention that because on last thing here for all the times I say. People call up and they they -- they say what do I do about 9091. These. These early nineties years and I say you know start a fire with them they're just totally worthless. They don't have to be I do say this a lot go through play who play with them with their kids or something crystal Fonda have and to look at. Doesn't have to be worth a lot to justify their existence but which you can also do is pick out. Great players and once a guy gets in the whole thing of all -- rookie guard Randall McDaniel last year. Is his rookie guard or want the one card it's considered to be his top rookie card is a pro set card so. Those sets everybody's got a great photography. A a new design I mean really neat looking but. Totally worthless just incredible mass. Supply of these cars mass production just plus the bills -- from those years right right Super Bowl pictures. Can -- picture Norwood with his head down on that one pro -- card you might be able to. So. John -- somebody that as a rookie card in those sets and Emmitt Smith to score supplemental might be the best. And that rookie from whatever it is 92 may be any one -- two. Thanks for listening everybody I'll be back next Saturday with -- another addition of the hobby I might show here on WGR have a great weekend.
