Well so people can just go back to work actively gene that was we know you need more local talk let's welcoming numbers 34. And the -- Thanks German thomas' extra point takes over WGR. Brought to you by him and he's banking official bank of the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo football Monday continues. Are as it became known during the Howard Simon show this morning I don't know they really wanna sign off on this buffalo football. And. And it. Thurman Thomas is here pro football hall of Famer. -- I don't buy it. You lol are you just trying to make me feel better make me smile make me laugh you're wearing a bit the bullet. Watch this on video later on our website to be your pocket dot com CD I guess you rocked this look with with Mike before I've never seen the you've got -- visor with some kind of crazy green here what what what is going on there. Nothing and it's just ahead and -- awards where you kind of a war with the use softer you know. Decrease I don't want to -- -- to be down you know gas notices and you walk I walk in you're urges all over -- and Milan have been raised was hurt in the whatever you were saying yeah yeah. Well it's off I'm I -- I -- in a rather depressed. State I think about the football team. And so much so that -- I was laughing and and I I felt actually like I might cry which happened yesterday watching the game and I'm not I'm not being flippant like it's this. What is it like for you are you there yesterday. Yeah I was there won't -- What is it like for you are such a proud. Player. Great teams Hall of Fame best bills teams we've ever seen I've ever seen people go back farther than I do into the sixties when they -- -- titles. Might take issue with me saying that the movement the best teams ever put. Playing great and to be watching the state of things now what is that like for you and your former teammates and with few. Well you know it is scared of and you know what I understand you know and and I take this Columbus four -- Home. If you look at the history. Of the Buffalo Bills. Today. From when they first started fifty years ago. Public -- championships. The season with OJ and electric company. Home. He has some memorable playoff games in between there were Joe offers yeah yeah yeah yeah major but when you look at the whole overall. Pitcher of the fifty years. They've been bad more than -- is good right exactly there's been bad more than has been good -- we're seeing is some of that ban right now. And and I talk to -- tell -- today and boy if you follow him mortuary he went off. -- -- I guarantee you those players in the committed to those two weeks ago on. Our that would guys on the team be following -- on Twitter knowing what what may be coming their way -- -- don't really wanna click on their phones and seemed alternately. -- -- I know someone do now and if they read it dirt and -- take a long look at themselves you know I mean it was at me. Edges here in all the way over here and Kyle Williams talk about the intensity though. I'm going up and going down that's not supposed to happen. That intensity level is always supposed to be. An all time whether you're winning whether you're losing or whatever. And everywhere a couple of people say that they saw a couple of players -- -- laughing our. I don't know I don't know if it's true -- what they say it and you know guys bacon yeah. Like yeah -- type of tackles and are down 3138. You know I didn't really see and do that but people say that it happened. But that's -- -- depths. Notice that shouldn't be tolerated and especially after eighteen years this might be of the year were chanting games. You know -- Result we got. Result we -- and we started in these trade rumors and they at this point I don't think anybody see if wonderful. Should there be anybody thinks I mean we can talk about being on the roster and it's specific guys we talked we've talked about Lee Evans a lot. On Friday and even yesterday imposed game and came up on what I've got very few. I think really good players I don't know how -- really good Evans is but I think he's I think he's good. I don't need to be dealing every. All good player at that position wave for instance and there are guys and his team that I think you can just pack up their stuff and -- -- you pick a running back. Take a linebacker ticket defensive linemen and just you know I'm gonna miss any of up but receivers. My plan Thurman is eventually you're gonna draft a quarterback hopefully next April will draft a quarterback -- -- somebody for him to throw the ball to. And Evans still has. Some youths to me because of that -- -- another poll on the roster because lord knows man in Delaware to start there's plenty of holes on that roster. It is for Leo I mean if you like you say if you if you treat Lee Evans and you get -- next year when you start all over who is the -- it's. I mean yes Stevie Johnson who along Roscoe prayers I mean Roscoe what Lee is a guy. And -- I think he has built his football team but. We'll go back to what I said before I think. I think there's going to be a lot of change for boards. And I know people are talking about you know -- say the sign of his -- Franco whatever you know. I think there's a real it's useful in this country could be for a leadership or just being in a guy -- whatever but. I definitely there's going to be some changes wonderful wanting it is so Demi Moore a lot of people can see. Maybe twenty to 25 guys nebulous football -- That's a lot of turnover that's a lot. That's a lot I mean BN is bad is it looks mean. Clearly warranted I'm not arguing to the doctor -- added at a lot of the lobby roster I think I think buddy edge and 13 guys here. You know. Think about is just right parse you know -- he -- he wants his guys in the you know out parts none of that program parts Nestor. At least you've got a proven track record of success there I did I did read something about ourselves. Thinking about -- to the coast backed him. After step aside and in Miami buffalo is the only AFC east -- -- -- for the -- you're laughing and I thought about right maybe just warm clean percent of its you know want. Or maybe it's not a coincidence that this is the only is he sees them -- -- I mean that. Could be just that. I see that does that make you man that fans would feel that -- Yeah I know I man I'm asking your reaction -- I never got exciting. I've known bill for a number of years and I respect the way that he does things but. -- look him everywhere he's been you know. He has pretty martz he's taken -- mean I don't know if you think you can take it over here from around. Yeah that's did you say that even we dare you know I think he would take an overture jaws and CO. AG OJ or Joe signed -- And that's Columbia parse this and no that's not. That's not my guys wanna bring Mike that type guy that was on my shopping Lewis exactly there's been big on the shopping for the grocery and I think that's. That's why he got out there so you know maybe maybe that is only. Thing -- -- back you know you you don't wish in EOMR Wilson anybody by it is. Now -- here until noon phone lines are available 8030551888550. 2550. You can reach reach us here in the studio via my email -- like at. WGR. 550 dot com. Is the way to go about that and and really and you know anything you've got through four games the bills are 14 they've got the worst point differential in the league. On Big -- a blown out at home yesterday 3814 to the -- 200. And 73. Rushing yards. Which brings the three game total -- not you know them normally keep track this comes up with like 840 some yards the last three games against the jets are on the ground belong. But they've given what's the record I don't know old if that sort of thing is capped somewhere. But if it's not a record is the happiest horses some kind of record -- Many yards in three games -- I'm -- Ali is probably a record in three games. But. They're probably not far away from the overall record now -- I mean -- was me you know I saw yesterday I was like. -- OT before game. Great guy you know -- you know. Congratulated on his career you know be in a Texas guy you know that's that's how we do have bugs. He he he's imagines he's a motivated individual right yeah and you know. Yet I haven't who has yesterday were all rushing yards with a buddhism he is. He's an area upset at what happened in the San Diego. In and Purdue might show yesterday -- have a two guys rushed for over a hundred yards. I mean the first thing out -- -- -- -- Kennedy was a member -- the ability you know so I mean that's that's. As -- go -- not good right now and end. You know I I count the Jacksonville win. Four wins this season wonders gadget. You know that's right I mean -- they -- -- yesterday. Or are. Jobless line -- that stabilized as they were -- so you know that it would aren't they redundancy threatened by. -- -- You know we got a lot of ground cover there's. Lot has happened since last Monday -- for an old four team. Trent was released him and you you called me right after we got done with the showed me in on that that that was happening in the -- -- shortly after you phoned me. And thanks for that. The Kelsay contract extension. And if you know of course central that performance yesterday here here's. Something from that the the domination. The rushing yards to -- Robert the total through three games. And you know how how bad it is if it's a record. How do you get so old. How can be so dominated I mean they are they that out may end up front. Does that mean that looked like the jets. Here's how I would put it -- and I did a few times yesterday. Over the jets when they threw the ball just did it to work on -- passing game knowing that they could run it like Nebraska could run it against you know Baylor in the seventies. Yeah it and I think you you do that because you know what you wanna gates -- more comfortable. I think that's why Semitic letterhead with 300 yards. Rushing the football I mean it was it was that bad it's -- I just think they want to give Mark Sanchez now. The mark somewhere yeah -- it could have been one of those days where he -- the -- only 56 times. And but I think they want to give them some work and obviously. It worked. They hit wide open receivers and tight ends February question you know it -- just sort of gains were column. He goes back to where. You know domination of football an entire football. And that was it it was the it was total domination by outages where. They did everything right. So. But I just do think it was yesterday that game that no they just wanted to most SS market data. Some folks wanna talk to -- which were of course great full force and the reasons we like -- -- near for a couple hours after these games. Tony in town Wanda leads us off here on Thurman Thomas is at 2.0 hi Tony thanks for calling your on the air with them. It -- on. Just a couple of very intrigued to be looked totally outclassed yesterday. In this first people are sought to martial art art and after all -- somebody. In the tribal -- and there are. To put it honestly yes it was first built game actually watched and probably. Internet users. -- Our -- wired stopwatch. It would negotiated like infrastructure. Actually acting as financial circles he wasn't the only one it was probably -- under their culture he moved it and on the -- Under -- program where people -- Lost and -- fifteen. Diplomacy that starts to drop the -- terrible these players just aren't. Just not all. And me let's start slowly draft picks that they'll probably find -- years. Production in the competitive. And that's -- Okay Tony thank you did you know I'd been at the game due June you know that Bryant is Patrick I was pants torn down -- One of the sacks. War college I don't know it just so maybe. With. How many were there actually download the route that would mean. Regardless there are only three sex. From the game is not somebody had a hold of his pants and they and they came down like them down whose knees. Vision -- replay. And yet those guys that the caller mentioned only mentioned -- Calvin and and Whitner my eyes welled in the pants that needed on the move to detonate it made it hard. You know and Tomlinson is really good great even flight that was. An all time with art Whitner in the poll on the touchdown run for. It's one of those plays where you have eyes closed now means. You're right -- -- I mean. The breakdown of the awful it's become Arabic know how to cut -- lot of run with a football. That's what's gonna happen it's got a break down that -- and a -- beat -- -- It made the right decision whatever -- -- -- -- to break now right on top of the college. -- -- funny about making those guys misty yeah exactly yeah yeah it is you've -- guys who. Home game was what. -- Alabama and Florida defensive backs were making tackles in open space. You know against a running -- receiver that you frequent out. That's not attack mention. It shouldn't be that bad especially from eight -- address. Yeah and he looked. Fans might appreciate due to an extent appreciate him sounding as mad. As he sounded after the game. And being as emotional as he was after the game. Problem is it's like hit his frustration is part of what's so depressing. Because I think he may want to beat. Someone who can make a difference. It's become pretty evident that he's not capable of that of making a difference of making them better. Of leading them anywhere but if he's one of their leaders admit that part of the desperation that I hear coming out of his -- Coming out of him in the locker room in his comments like. He's flawed and he's not good enough and he's a leader and his team is showing up like that. Well you know -- -- or maybe he's better if you got better place. Yeah well the bottom line meaning. Maybe if you maybe if you put him on Pittsburgh defense maybe tires and to a great safety. Maybe maybe you think that comes from its its like that. I'm a -- about Jim that are when he laughter when he -- -- -- Baltimore and he had those great player -- made plays all the time you know. All the time and make them down. With what you ask right -- and with the New York cell. It could -- could not be I don't know but I think. As -- trying to packets you can the other point that Tony was making about just this demonic picks that you missed on. And you just can't. It's been that way for the last five years. Maybe even longer but yet you look at the guys from the last report rounds that the bills go to. The guys that are. Not in dressing for games like a cargo was a first round pick right. Exactly days David -- might -- watt model not even dress he didn't I didn't even get on the field yesterday if he did it was to -- minimal. -- -- -- I didn't notice. Him in the knowingly ending the week before. And now. I know it was on the field against New England you might not I don't think these when I met like Jersey more after the date -- England yesterday I think he didn't get on the appeal period. What is. This -- a lot yeah. Debt sizzle and I keep telling now now that number 225 is not that as a bear right. -- and over yeah Rossiter occurs. I'd totally did not notice him. Nine minutes after ten here on a buffalo football Monday I and the bulldogs Thurman Thomas is extra point continues pro football hall of Famer. Thurman Thomas in studio with me taking your calls and comments. At 8030550. In 1888552550. You can reach me by email. As well -- blog at WGR 550 dot com there's anything. Were they getting into. Through email we will certainly get to it. How all mom. How does this sit do you. You know mr. Wilson better than -- better than most people would would probably be listening to the shore and I'll certainly better than I do. How how how do you think this is sitting with him -- the weight of the way it looks and maybe. This is speculative but how bad it could look even as soon as next week with a with a stadium that I doubt will be fall. Man you know but this definitely has to be. A tough from the -- But saying that about mr. Wilson Owen -- If you really. Look at everything I mean look at the last ten years. Ago. He's been a part of -- -- sure as I know that he is you know made some decisions. We don't know what decisions he's made. But we know that mr. Wilson does every. You know he has a voice in this organization. And no he's what nine at three Adobe 92 I think -- -- -- shortly and. You some excitement again. You want some excitement. And hopefully mr. Wilson is looking at this and thinking that you know want. Does this is close ago when you have them use what 845 when he went to a fourteen back at bat now but. You know this is not even looking like to a fourteen. It has the potential of light or six we just witnessed what happened to of the chart -- that would chart probably years ago you know what. Eight Malia I mean it takes awhile to lose small -- work early were early for that it's four games in by I mean date they've. They certainly have a look at the worst team in the NFL like that that through four games through a month in the season. There from what you don't want Carolina's -- to. Carolina has meant. Can I am and work you know what we're basing this on what we see. Four games. Now basin is the only other teams have not done either and you know I've urges here Bud -- I have a game -- -- You -- watch a game in Cleveland. -- probably want the same thing that we're going through right now globally they beat him because it's heated division rival yesterday I forgot about you're right but -- some of the team. San Francisco's -- -- Detroit this is -- for pride you know and they've been in home. Saying that they've been competitive Sampson who was close against New Orleans a couple weeks ago when a football Detroit. Has been in a couple of games but it doesn't matter the bill during their game last week against New England to the have lost them all sold those teams so you know. -- all play out. The bills play the lines at one point this year winds have lost 23 straight on the road they've only got they've got one more road game before they come here in November. Of lines they play at the giants. In a couple of weeks so law and the law -- it was a streak of I don't know I don't know it is the longest losing streak road. Losing streak in league history but its -- -- accounts and Iowa games it is and you think they'll be an underdog heavy underdog at the giants and a couple of weeks they'll come here probably having lost when he forced. He wrote well I I think. It would be if they get to -- point. You governors. Everybody would know by the you know how it has gotten and if the I was coming here. Owen. Direct human being -- might be whatever. And picked to win the game that's -- You know it might be a -- Listen listen to this conversation -- go let's let's take some calls him. Tim is next up with Thurman Thomas -- Tim what's up. But we're gonna take that Michael Sherman at 22 quick points I'd give Europe beginning -- nineteen -- watching the best remote DVR gets almost. I slow motion some players and I watched -- -- and lying to you got the ball by step I watch Demetrius bell. Bridge governor's state certainly I was already trying to Marshal wants to make records make about -- -- you can have a but it you know my next point. As when you look at this -- -- -- offensively and defensively. Outsource specialty and -- How many players they have -- -- the -- third delete the top ten other -- position. I mean it in -- -- I -- that's -- that the top ten or viva they're positioned. You know social came via parish Mormon and in -- order -- -- there there yet more. So I mean power order order order and it will now. Well I -- you and I. When. You know. Look at. A couple of weeks ago and a look at -- Brian Mormon. No the last ten years I mean he's been I mean you -- mom ball whatever. But it's in right. He's not Clinton waves -- Art art I did you know I don't know I mean I I now look at dollars let me out is not getting the distance anymore. It is more about. And I know Bruce Davis is more about like kind of hang time with him you know that's what it occurs more over here Chris Morgan a lot of hang time and time and directional in the rational that they use and I think it might. Aides -- head over to what rival and that's I don't think there's that -- Brian. Brian Mormon is a guy who gets it putts and it is. Justified just lets it fly. But. When you think of it to you know what you think the special teams have changed and that's a big part of it to you know by every group they were in the top whatever. I imagine right. Wanted to get them I don't know but. The players in the top ten at their positions I mean you know -- -- out there right. That's coming maybe maybe bird. Because I mean he had nine Texas a rookie. Aaron have gotten on through four games sold you know we'll see with a body work looks like once we get more sample but maybe he would be worth the consideration -- Beyond that. That that's really the best that that's gotta be the best you can do think. I don't know maybe one of the guards but you know I don't. That. You know it's. The wrestling has been okay. The president -- it was not look. That there's this. There's it's. Their last in the league in passing yards a game they're last in the league in rushing yards against. Problem rushing yards. Four and opponents' passing yards -- right that can in the middle pack sixteen. Rushing. Twelfth as far as passing yards given up but you know what I said -- -- about the jets why -- when you can -- for seven yards a carry which is you know basically what -- look at it yesterday. Mean won't would you other than just didn't make sure you stay sharp edit it but if you lead in the same can practice. And -- -- let. Me ask you this I don't know if you caught any of the survive but but. I I heard the comments and even I talked about a NBC last night Peter King referenced. The Tomlinson mentioned to him. That some guys on the jets were fired up about some some trash talking Sanchez said something in the locker room about it. In the week leading up to the game that there were some comments or something and I mean I don't recall reading anything we don't. The only headline that was made in the run up to this game was a jet linebacker talking about Fitzpatrick. You don't get knocked around a few runs. But. What would the bills have been did you hear anything about that that the jets you mentioned you talked LT being bothered by a anything the bills may have said in the run -- golf game. I didn't hear anything -- the bills it just doesn't make up and make it says. The edges sort of making themselves I mean that's the way that there. They have to give him for game -- yeah but. Or heard anything. Of about it you know maybe they were talking about me. Down maybe it was about me that it like -- magnet. And between you about it I like the magnet Braylon Edwards last week route to touchdown grab about in his answer whatever -- I'd like that. They go off and well -- we have got your concentration level is set on the senate. They're following your UN general tale yeah -- him and you know the adrenaline is they know you don't like that anymore exactly. All rich is next up on the show with the Irma Thomas hi rich thanks for calling your on the years. You know I don't just want to determine your guy's opinion about. What the bill should address that consider doing like. To wait offensively defense liners such CoreStates -- now went. The risk of the first round pick ever quarterback which you know what shall win and Cordoba said you know wait -- well you'll run up. He -- soaps in coach first pick overall I -- did try an old would JaMarcus Russell just a couple of years ago. Just do -- the court of first -- way more risk here. Interest alive and I just want you are really electable to an end that you very much. Okay rich -- what what do you think about I think it's risky almost no matter what the quarterback is more. There's more attention when you masonic quarterback because there quarterbacks -- the ball time you commit some -- to the bills missed the last time they had to pick this high. They might have might miss if they missed alignment there in the last. 2002001. It's a -- Williams in the got it turned out to 2002 draft about to address Kenya. -- May -- -- know. I don't know -- good out of this the way is going to be with his friends were never find out what -- -- don't. And don't. You gotta make this. So -- accuracy. To quarterback depth definitely will be to Corbett different quarterbacks on this roster next. -- -- a lot of college football I I was I've I've volume on Twitter I don't know were routed through its that's reciprocal now of course I'm not in the hall of -- inning but I know I saw you out there on Saturday while almost college games going on Saturday night -- was plain and locker was playing. And Alabama and Georgia are -- Alabama and Florida Ryan. And you know there's. It is a distraction. For me is a -- stand to just pay attention to those guys aren't distraction wherever it gives me some hope. Liked it watch Andrew -- even though it didn't end well for -- to couple optics and they lost. Yeah but you know I didn't notice you know I just I I thought Andrew luck if from effort I don't know -- California guy in. Newton. Now works for you had worked for me right right I'd change is always the worry about -- locker and all of I like Andrew look -- -- some shots just been in the game and I mean he ran a bar it was Olympics whatever bush. Oh -- you know -- Just we have Robert Horry gave him if he's going to be that quarterback. And -- -- that might have locked out wrong it is. That's what else the can but I don't know if that's -- -- justice. -- only well you're in a way it would cancel a travesty. If you feel the thought in the room just relegate you said Google the air went right out of me just. -- and Clemens before eleventh. Clarence Thomas is here the extra point show until noon thanks for tuning in I'm the bull -- 8030551. 8885525. They do those are the numbers. -- like get WGR 550 dot com if you want to reach us via email -- is next up on the show with Thurman Thomas hi Carol thanks for calling. It. -- don't you think about this point. Giant guy who was the pro personnel guy was just actually -- at least -- -- basically did was watch all the game. But a player came and played real good against bill that guy went outside and free agency. Relationship post -- Kawika Mitchell. I'm humor to disaster but even a bigger disaster was Tom bone -- -- still it. I don't know. -- organization which is a good ol' boy network. -- would -- African American guy gets fired what actually terrible job but not as bad as the -- -- -- who's come program. Shut the -- and you might fielder stepped Saturday but I'd like to know your opinion and that's because I think -- -- -- And also permanently to know what Mr. Big splash you told parts that Ralph Wilson was gonna make it Christmas. Oh okay. -- at the front office I'd I'd. Tom -- directs track record is on is sketchy John -- -- to be forward. I I think anyway I want your opinion. Oh boy you know it does this property -- an old. -- -- Believe. What you believe -- have your own opinion of it mode drag is. Really. Respect. Around -- for. At what he goes. Probably has worked out the way people wanted to work here but he is rue really respect. A lot of people National Football League and that came from -- -- Okay so how you can have your own. Why -- I'd I'd sure my opinion would be their bad he's in charge of the draft -- and talk all from now until three in the afternoon about long draft picks right. -- how old do you remain respected. If you're in charge now here's now or years maybe the question and I don't know if you get to this Orbitz maybe it's a touchy area. Is he made him a column know I caught more. But it. How about before that. About John McCargo about Donte Whitner. How about you most engaging -- that was a -- gap mode it was a guy room on some of them. Than. Two hours ago. Like Aaron Maybin was -- -- That is probably the -- there's a lot of things are frustrated about the bills but the fact that there's always like a puzzle to put together as to who would be responsible. Is. Endlessly frustrating -- to me as. Has been their way to lasting years yet. Of who's responsible for almost every -- RO. The right choice whoever I think is bit I think has been a ton of guys. -- drag Donahoe mr. Wilson. What he still be respected around the league because people know maybe how hard it is to succeed here because of the owner I think you're bored out of it got started that you -- have a job more now. That's you know. I things. Oh in the -- talked about all the big splash or whatever yeah ads at the outlets are I was hoping they would have a big splash now it'll just born donut things ahead. You know you know. They knew they look -- it I mean you -- -- commanders talk about me whenever. And you works yet I was excited to season change of season things going on over there you know. So it wouldn't -- Right. You you thought like a lot of us thought exactly because there's no way that. They were talking a dual power -- -- right. You know. I mean if -- important duke power situations and in nobody knew about his wife that's very law. So. Right yeah I think we're good -- just let him. Mike is next up -- retirement at some point. I shoppers aren't just think they're amateur being so bit in the nineties I played my out. Original Nintendo technology -- anywhere from thirty yards two touchdowns. And dobbs. A bonus or they go better. This. Retirement goals. A computer game that was better I was better that emitted bear the -- tech mobile all right. I -- I had my next question or point adopt. With a built in are releasing that words and and they frank cows either any indication that they're just gonna do anything did try to get better. Trying to fight with average to below average players in just get a break in the schedule or what are they doing there are -- All right my thanks I think we're will run up against the break -- maybe -- shouldn't try to squeeze you in there well Google address that on on the other side of the break as we haven't talked really about the Kelsay. Extension -- -- -- even really talked about Edwards on the Aaron thinks fans would like to have your opinions known that even though it happened a week ago. One we go today already. But you -- and you knew the guy. Battered and again most of us one of the reasons why we like talking you on these Mondays so. Will get into both of those -- is contract and dom track being released. When we continue.