I who's going first for gear rough or the players. Well that if it happens it'll be the coats told the -- have been. Like 200 coaching changes since when they got here and then if it's -- of Vera will still be the guy who I suspect. I mean admitted that made their bed with the things. And it made some tweaks that significant changes now and I want to be such a surprise. That there be some complacency and lack of action in this thing. Why what like -- we're expecting complacency and lack of passion. I'm not surprised by Atlantic they've been -- you know they've been changed their -- forward than the things that came out. Is pretty much the same in with Tim Connolly a little surprised in -- defense in the fifth game but. Note again with -- and I believe they tried betrayed them and couldn't find anybody. I'd -- that the way to an IKEA. Powered and you could hear that that the action sports and efforts -- we know that it reported. More changes in results in this sport that tape from period to period the teams that have the chemistry impassioned -- The make those runs then it would seem that Abbott is its start to become evident and -- one of the reasons is when you don't make changes. Teams aren't shaken up this thing -- chicken up which we thought would happen apple after the Boston series but he is a lot of reasons that it. But -- Evident -- coaches then it -- -- in it up yeah I'm I'm not surprised that I wanted me to change and in gentlemen that's part of might or might -- -- -- But it sounds both surprised. Other some drug defended -- saying -- there also gigantic truck sized holes and it. If -- the same team should we expect the same result which is a hundred points -- a division that's why I'm surprised at the same team we should get the same result -- you float through last season solid they're awful in the first round of the playoffs but they didn't float and play every third game in the regular season so yeah how what why wouldn't I'd be surprised that it. Some of that they've done more bit morbid in the previous two years and yet they got a great start may have the best. Golden League on top of the game but there were divorced ships within games last year not as many but what I told you it seems changed dramatically year -- year in this sport for some reason and something's missing there. Something's missing and what not but there with what they did Lester the final number of points. Something just isn't right. They're not getting the kind of effort action that you get. From teams that are serious about what's ahead of them in this sport and that if you're in trouble in the gonna. -- that is gonna get them in deep trouble that'll pull out of and I just I don't know they can just suddenly manufactured. Maybe it is -- -- -- -- -- Maybe the fact that one of their teammates -- eviscerate and shipped out of maybe that fact I don't I don't know but there's something missing. Mean. Go back and whether it's tapes from 411 last year for our -- reduce some conclusions from -- it was a great start and that the -- they could build on this is the opposite that -- follow them around. The current trouble and might not make the oil and that's an over reaction after six games the coach is senses -- -- -- five games. -- for a period. Input on it -- put him in the press or are you gonna downplay what it means the -- them all -- it happens all the time but we're here. Or -- gas as you watch this team when he will bench players all the time. -- -- eventually currently Manning gets bench for a period Roy gets benched for a period you guys get benched. He got benched for the third period. When he's put in the press box a statements being made -- bench for the third it's as guys not playing well tonight isn't have what it takes tonight that's happened before. Let's not make that bigger than it is that I -- that it's it's it's on the outs in -- small but when he's in the what is the press box that's when we take notice. And maybe that will happen as we know there's certain guys that vote happen. This is that the player it was the focus of this content. After the season. I call from -- -- people warm out here symbol on its five games in. The Cote says he's not trying hard not to me that's for the day it's pretty it's gonna get bigger. Because when they might be torn up and in the and I I don't and then they play well Saturday night while they're gonna we're gonna have -- that -- -- -- I'm saying is overall the team. Appears that lacked some of the chemistry that it had in the past I don't know why but it's it's certainly cause it's the cause for panic on a call for for its role but. And get back in my earlier point in the old. The whole operation has -- late spurt for a long time if it's suddenly goes flat and then that that the big surprise. It seemed Cogent and his coaches in the season made the play out there's there's the recognition in Iraq. That you need to really -- generate momentum paction within your team more than any sport well I'd sit there and all that no reaction by. None of it's our reaction if it's at its typical reaction I don't think it's unusual and announcing -- wrong either. But to me what happens around here a lot is people get to their wit's end on and you know you're making the case on -- which is spying case to make it easily got another year last year. Do you wanna sacrifice Lindy Ruff an attempt to motivate Tim Connolly. Mean are you going to do that corporate Portland although I'm I'm just saying it is as a concept you know -- -- -- problem. What aware what's the organizational problem. If it's keep it to the people at our core player than in place for too long. When they fail them and foresees in situations and -- The other things involve Madeleine wanna get rid of them write about for tomorrow I wanna give my stuff away but that this organization. That. Appears to have created. A Malays and that is not surprising them. You don't make basically we beat created a Malays because it movie either roar com is what we're getting to right. That's part of it -- Stafford. -- and and the fact that -- -- -- -- is no question that the big story in the paper myers' minus seven is have a bat off the -- start maybe it's just a little. Maybe people and they didn't move insulin to let them get away it wasn't the right thing and anticipate that the -- and and said. We're gonna keep with Myers the next couple years it's gone so well that we can make a run at Stanley Cup to the the. Wait a minute stop stop Iran and you're not Terry you're gonna city -- Tellme. That they there's an organizational mole ladies because they capped Roy and Connolly who they've vet they apparently think a report enough to keep yet to leaner if they kept him here. You would consider that a moved to make a run to a -- I think it played very well Lester and apparently helped your rookie become that the the player -- -- that rookie of the year in the league. And if you really thought you ready and make a run at the daily cup maybe maybe you keep them if you pay the money at that than on the same page. You do that now don't go around -- the Jordan Leopold moved. Was a million dollars -- was a million dollars last saw atlas the stop pretending it was about money with the leaner cleaner got. Cleaners a lot older than the guys that they got the sabres got younger when the government cleaner and they got more physical when the government leader things that. They're trying to get younger after winning the division. That's what I'm getting at it like -- but they weren't really even at -- but serious -- have to get. Competitive under dark heroic in -- are always getting younger but always in love with their young players and so yes that's why you traded lender and -- disband because. You're saying it because you get it you're just and it because I don't ever actually have to stick to anything you just get to suggest that everything that they do you do is wrong and market -- promote what -- -- are my guess is the motive is to win mean I'm not -- these people -- sits around and thinks that they -- to steal money from their fans they've got funny people think that but. My my my my my thinking as they wanna win. -- the charted two things guys I think they're trying to win but I also think they're trying to manage the budget and by moving out to -- their. And gone with younger guys are she said it himself it gives them flexibility. They have cap room they go with younger guys they don't have to hold up guys in the system because they got thirty plus year old guy at a four year contract I think they're doing two things they're trying to win but they're also. Try to make business moves in and moves that make them operate their hockey operations the way they wanna operate -- you can agree or disagree -- their philosophy but that try to do both of those and moving if to interstate by the way. Wouldn't at some point and cynicism would be that it wouldn't give a note note -- would be why you give the guys over thirty years of age. A long term contract I mean you can -- guys we could talk about. They're -- loyal to their core players and then mentally -- the not low enough to him but that -- loyal to Stafford -- it is I don't know it is to -- -- you know we can always make an argument positively or negatively make it stick the way we wanted to stick. And by the way and by the way to leader to -- a minus five with New Jersey and they're also struck. -- About what he's doing this year -- -- Corporate -- possible. It is the white this situation is the way it is and that daring that questions animals that make that. To remake their team after winning their division they did not make the team that. That's the point here. It not make it better in note seven -- -- better last year and and in hours right. They're they're concerned about it's never just let go for the way the black vote and the -- obviously it let -- and our budget. And be responsible as we move along and create the appearance of the Stanley Cup but we'll never win it -- never want in this group isn't gonna win it. As for the bills guys -- They're going to be real bad for three years. The question it must not play off team entry as the as the question when will they be 500. Many thanks to you here not next you're not 1213. With -- I would talk about it the year they may threaten to be spot on. Let's talk about what -- -- of them along for practice or bottoming out. Gonna compare the Baltimore Ravens and they get Flacco who did that talent on this -- Yes well you make your. And got about about what how quickly things -- -- with quarterbacks because of the rams the rams were one and fifteen last year. And they just beat the chargers and they also beat the Seahawks there their on the way to 500 site. Really debate the point that quarterback means everything it things in term problem might might. One on top of that is the the talent level of this -- it's so bad situation so dire. Says that the quarterback who come here and the right -- and it's still. Won't make a significant difference in the short term there don't have gotten their -- and in have to have better players they're -- graphics. In Saint -- It has Chris Long -- well there's one player that the built on crap is not great but they've made a draft the very kind of crap and these contribute. Mean it's quarterback -- going to be surrounded it's going to be the may have been trapped. -- forward that's gonna affect them for awhile and I haven't core players in the merger contract were any good. It is gonna stick to this team it's gonna get worse I think certain. That a girl or their postal -- that the experts. And I think nectar of the -- -- first again. Terry Sullivan Willis from the Buffalo News eagle 305588550. Q is that if there's anything ever done that. First of -- back the first back Detroit in the back to back years. Optics apple -- -- alt auto -- no I'm Michelle picked first overall -- taxpayer drafts and thinks I don't think so either. And that detect a I think if I don't know while while -- the wonderful historical footnote here that I mean look at -- I think efforts have built against them and it went for five games they're not bad or with the division. Actor award amount says it's the one that is toward its. What points scored analog and they're not they're quote when averaged seem -- and -- Beat the built by ten point that I take those two teams. I think Cleveland. Is better there it's possible and that and Carolina so we're -- that the only one other team in the it in the the AFC with one book of -- who want to win nevermind they're. The lines never expected back years infected on the picked first once that was Matthew Stafford depict the top three. But actually it's funny when they when they once thought they'd just once just Matthew Stafford Calvin Johnson was second overall Julie Harris who was third overall. I heard a funny thing the bills have a chance to let the -- break this streak for consecutive road losses you know who have who -- that streak. The lightness there that that it breaking their own straight from earlier this decade as well. Our journal on the beat the giants yesterday because they really -- want that streak coming to even if they don't bring it you know what do you do the tie their own streak I think it's almost more insulting. I came it's here it's. And -- so while I would I would think they have been sent to new. The distancing. -- longest road losing streak in history get snapped. Having an -- -- so brave -- It's a chance for their only winning and it's in the as a road losing record I think that's in the -- to get for the game. It's only let me throw -- regret to that we -- talking about a little bit earlier that there's -- the -- Of use that term is that maybe the Eagles -- showcasing Kevin -- because sandy -- named -- his quarterback but plays -- last two games -- maintains that he's going back to -- That may be there showcasing -- to trade him to lie about the bills make a play for Kevin Kolb. I am and I'm really against go after other people's guys oh probably not Rob Johnson. I wanna get the guy -- guy. Is this isn't an -- that beat it's for years. I don't believe by the way I think probably the guy at the greatest -- the -- -- political from the block with active on the and yet the ethical back. -- would -- that big picture -- that was similar over the years back on but I think out of their got. I like the way it goes all the the fact that -- was better. I mean that got away -- replant the football game that -- is seen believes that it extra in the that's is going to be a short term and in the offseason. Figure. What become an hour late in the game by the. Yeah he showed up late in any state in the locker room apparently after -- were told it was the third quarterback. And I'm out of the guy and that's with a book by to. I just don't think long term he's the guy and I think he's. If you think he's a little weird. And things like this. And it that they -- last year not start at that but it can't be that he's their guy and long term the guy. Still don't get your guy go get lock. -- came out. You didn't miss anything he did it didn't play well they got hurt the second quarter and didn't come back and. That thing now others is to look -- mean. It's not it's not an insult by any means. -- only get as many yards Bledsoe talking about some of the negative characteristics. -- the and that you real life as -- umpires are right it is your result and anyone they picked the panel is all things. GAAP net Jerry Sullivan with a shared common Rochester -- with. -- go right ahead. I guys. I was part of my -- on the dispute could possibly do. Now whether rule awful so we'll do ordered -- -- another question but for just talk about if you could do it. I completed scene would get in there guys. Franchise quarterback awful lot in the draft. And then with some money spending. You can go out to yourself to good tackle possibly. You know does that -- that maybe a linebacker and then through the rest regret -- years to a -- line. Again some more -- taking positions. Still positions. Entered three years it could definitely in the and -- the -- and enter on the you know two years obviously. Yeah I I've. I'm in between TI I don't think. I don't know I don't biggest going to be three years before they compete for 500 I think they they could turn right adult depends on the assistance to make the right decisions are good they're around a lot quicker than probably most people think. Make the wrong citizens will be stuck where they are. -- that the point I would say you you might -- a couple of drafts and really feeling young -- place that you compliment with. Freeagent have to talk about big money created and I don't think they do that in the short term think of is that they'll be they're ready and -- them too much credit. If they feel they've hit on five draft -- now on you -- you throw -- awarded would be tree in Spiller you know it's -- our. Two years from you know and it exploit the and make a run that that. That's the bottom -- actor. -- other analysts here on WGR yes it's browns pick number one in back to back years in 19992000. And I'm also getting a message that the -- and the angles also did it while. And look how look how that turned. -- I'm actually promote it might turn towards separate something no one else. Apple is lower he was like let -- -- fourteen slipped because of all the drug rumors memory went down in the -- on the box picked up Bo Jackson and Vinny Testaverde. The dangles to gain Wilkinson and to John Carter worked well -- out -- yeah that was a double life suddenly you know it's funny you look at the three teams that have done it and all three of them -- The browns Tim Couch according brown. All three teams the went back to back in the first round I guess Testaverde Bo Jackson's okay right doubles player. Of course on the the other two. He's the box also that it would LeRoy Salman Ricky balance of 6077. -- -- year old remote you'll I get your napping because you're on -- five today we'll try to be more argument Ivanov Friday. Yeah wrong. That's like about you -- these are always open for good discussion you'll always get some wiggle room. I'd sell them at a good week.