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12/20 Jerry Sullivan-1 w/ Schopp+Bulldog

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Mon, 20 Dec 2010|

Sully sounds off on a Bills win over Miami.

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  1. Karlos Dansby8:18, 15:42
  2. Kyle Orton11:21, 12:21
  3. Brady Quinn11:53
  4. football team1:00
  5. Jerry Sullivan0:02, 7:19
  6. Aaron Maybin5:50
  7. Buffalo News0:00
  8. Clay Matthews8:09
  9. David Nelson4:10
  10. James Hardy4:11

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Buffalo News columnist Jerry Sullivan -- Mike Hsu -- And the bulldogs. Jerry comes cities like you won your game I hate you I didn't even feature. That Jerry Jerry if you will. The -- movement. Jury I would. Opinion. Beautiful -- Yeah. Something in my mind that they completely forgot it because of that hall probably something you want and they let her leave the show where it. Now that would they might then. And it might abandon. It was good wasn't about fan I'm like. I'm going diagonal mark on this Morrissey you're gonna start watching me and -- and told it first time ever -- left my power -- in the press box. But luckily Harvey Greene who's the greatest Peter Miami guy used to work for Steinbrenner. Called me edit delivered to my hotel EB if you're a packet every with a golf ball and it's great so anyway hobby like you football team. People saw them okay you'll -- twisted up little. Well and that's the lesson here and it's gone it's he's gonna they're gonna -- -- pretty pretty easy. They went move when they won their third game like the number one pick is off the table what what I -- it would have disappointed me yesterday. Is if they backed up the the somewhat hollow old. Winds to me over Cleveland and Cincinnati and Detroit by failing to be a beatable winning team. Which is what they were facing yesterday Miami didn't look like a playoff team really in that game yesterday but they had out -- record that said they were alive. And the bills went in and found a way to win that game. And I'm pretty impressed by that I think it was a step up in class is not an elite team by any stretch they beat but. Once once they can't the first pick on don't worry about the draft order and that it does so -- large extent. And I wanted to see them. Beat somebody. And you know the only team could be yesterday it was a when they played that again had a winning record and I'm I'm more impressed by that I was by the other three went put together. Moments but I've felt nine it's always interesting to me here. Fans how they feel as I'm sitting there. Alone after the games and forgetting stuff and MIA. Really sort of capturing what fans feel health care necessarily in the week before they didn't believe me when I said this game in movement and all. -- fans but yesterday since I have felt something marijuana religion did that it was a little fuzzy because it was Miami does it feel a little different. And it did now they go home when they won his last two I think it's fascinating the way it's set up. You know bad teams -- Miami a fraud but -- winning team and now. Two days -- they were neither laments pretty significant and I don't know if you build lines and that's a question you've got two young guys there individually players. Can benefit from winning games and I think. We all know that we know that from -- -- a little sport you play you know you feel more confident in anything you do as a writer maybe. And and that can help you. It fits I'm I'm just losing my perspective from -- like the guys. You are getting soft on these guys you love and -- team is built it's built with no names and guys that were not even drafted in some cases. You you'll love that you we respect that and accuses sort of why. But it doesn't make them good yet like I I like that we have likable -- here to talk about. But I don't know enough about as far as. Interview with this but they need more real -- play of factors. Mean Pro Bowl is generally come more in the first round then in the diplomat and as the owner soil police told us yesterday. You supplement with a lot of these other players of the trial williams' -- modes I don't know if he's even a starter Williams and Alex fifths. You can start for awhile but you have to have the whole thing together -- that's what's make in the so difficult to put into perspective. But something's -- I'm there are some players there more than I thought who we're going to be on this roster and be NFL players. It's too bad that David Nelson is James Hardy anyways that I second topic -- that guy when. I I think they over think to some extent I think they have scouts who seat football players and don't trust themselves because. Well it's not this hiding doesn't on this fast you know I mean ending the old time guys is more like the football player. You just this summit that they take may -- -- -- because they see some emit some measurable. Even have enough football players sort of Jerry. Some some not to make excuses for those -- but some of that is the way the last ten years have gone. You just going to be questioning yourself. And wanting to draft even though I would say sacked the whole scouting department and do every pick this way. You wanna draft kind about like what's conventional if you get if you're a fantasy draft and you make. Unusual picks or the you know people picks that'll be -- call reaches. The other guys laugh that you. You know so maybe there's a little bit of of that in what you're saying. David -- David anyway but there might be a little bit of there yet do you like that they've been able to find some of these guys later on -- they have. -- and a and I don't -- is how much luck is involved and how maybe because they have to play these guys they find out that they can't play. And and -- the second point that. The difference in talent and football players is decorate I've come to believe that maybe 90% of the -- -- Arab really close when it comes to talent. And it's the other 10% who really make -- and if it's a quarterback and you're really really underway. I think what can tie you up and and I think this this happens to maybe a lot of friends I'm sure it happens to me is no easy your level of expectation. -- if if Aaron Maybin is playing. And he's making the plays the last three weeks that. Arthur -- is making we're going -- it's about time where you -- And eight candidates say that may be -- he dressed yesterday -- -- was an inactive -- duty to weeding out any active and in -- -- -- -- played a couple of play -- notice votes is like you know played in this football subdivision it James Madison -- Andy's. Of this perfect underdog Mike he's a ball late round pick her mid round pick. And he's got a second happened like three and a half sacks a forced -- the last couple weeks is like. Oh yeah. Let's not make you great it just it's. He'd just tip your cap is like while I was expecting anything. There and so you're predispose I think to have an -- a smile on your crease when you see him make a play rich neighborhood we just be mad at casinos and too often enough. Bottom line is like -- sure that the bottom line is is the same boat got a guy I've got the three sexist recent Hezbollah it is not Ted. Honey you know which is why you drafted maybe you're drafted maybe in the fourteenth and his wife draft in baby and -- grabbed the -- is going -- where. And so well I got his wing and -- -- production not you wheat production which is why you need it. Hitting on the late round guys unless you really hated gym a -- it turns into an all or pro bowler. Doesn't make up for blown out for for -- -- you can't ever make up for that implement a -- We'll get your calls this hour for Jerry Sullivan 8030550. Is the number if you want to be on. Jerry here it is you wondering in the press box what. Is the fans' attitude. Today on WGR. Dot com 77%. Of people who voted said yes -- -- question will the bills beat at least 500 next year. And of thousands of votes more than three quarters of bills fans are -- doing that they're there ready to start winning. Well they could be that's. The -- and you know and -- -- vote as long once they've opened -- -- could there there there. And they've gone from worst team in the league might go sixteen to win four out of six and I don't blame those people because this offense. I think has a chance to be top fifteen next year. That they could just get a Clay Matthews and and a -- I'm -- put the pressure on them and fans should do next year to do something to free agency. Mixture UB that team that gets Karlos Dansby because that guy made a difference on a team that still 77. In the bills are better I think that probably. The read them right now that's amazing to think -- argue with Allen and markets and they've beat them. And their quarterback sucks. I don't wanna hear about how many. Players at other positions that are better at the equivalent on the the better than Miami people must be doing pretty pretty good about that they probably won the first game if -- was smart enough to play Fitzpatrick. Well the Miami kicker missed four feel Eagles. I I would go in the direction of Miami's beaten the jets on the road you played Pittsburgh closed the jets want in Pittsburgh there might not be that much of a difference but. I'm sure there really better than most I'd expect to be having these arguments -- W beat a team on its home field. And in the third the last game of the season you're better than. The better than them right now ice. And they've beaten three other better than Cincinnati I thought they were the worst team in the league and I mean it's buyout and scouts think in -- top 200 players that. They're they're just that I've -- I have to admit so could that be eight -- next year. So then then your 06070 wait all night again I mean we're back to that when they gonna move beyond that. Because we've been fooled before let's talk about Fitzpatrick contract we started the show with that. Yeah I mean did -- -- have you thought about that at all I mean I thought about it yesterday we thought really that we agree and I assuming he's their guy next year. I mean I just they're not getting Andrew -- but that ship sailed and I. I highly doubt there's another guy that they would want a draft and anoint. He's been good off so on -- -- last year of his deal he's not making much money by starting quarterback standards like. Don't -- usually in the league seed teams do something -- rather than usual. Went through this with with Lawson and the live the with -- edwards' -- and that sand. Goal and it's of their final year I was talking about because you don't if Flickr culture don't wanna run a quarterback goal at the final year if you believe in him. -- what mitigated it for Edwards this past off season is that he he really you have and hold on the job there's gonna be a competition with a new coaching staff so trying to gonna play it out now. This guy's got the gig. So one what do you do there. Well from. I don't know it's going anonymous bomb his agent I glance they look. He's -- one more year. You gonna take the chance that he goes and throws 28 next year. And then he walks let's start to treat him like a little more than what. What data before it's make him a couple million couple -- million -- -- he's been the journeyman backup is what I want to do want full of fluid situation. We give. Nearly top value quarterback money and not all so this got it's the little like the will witness look at the top top line you use it doesn't look as. Is we have -- we know. Look at her franchise guy he's worth more than Japan them. The that the fans early laden. You coach loves them and that's going to be effective or let's find a number here that we can live with -- -- you way below the cap is no cap anyway. Let's treat your quarterback like he's a star and MVP which -- yes. This starter Kyle Orton last year for Denver which was not a great team obviously but you know. 3800 passing yards 21 touchdowns twelve interceptions decent quarterback rating having the same season again. Although his completion percentages slightly lower. Denver screen eleven but he had the stats -- -- Denver gave him last year -- one year extension for next year. His last year was gonna be 2010. They give up and ejected Tim Tebow in the first round and the turnover Brady Quinn the numbers they trait they gave him one year for 2011 of eight point eight million dollars Luke. And even though it's the expense US may -- is he not living up to that. I mean that's the standard. His touchdowns interceptions are better than two to one Fitzpatrick czars well the right right there about two to one. The ratings are about the same the completion percentages kind of low -- it's Patrick's. It's not gonna look at Kyle Orton or somebody working for him in -- -- lord it's -- one year eight point eight million dollar it might -- the bills because it's not long term. That's a very good comparison and I still after all the time spent -- in this. The types of numbers I don't I'm not up on the numbers quarterbacks that very night. Money position misleading and is now think his agent would be stupid. Not serving him well tonight bring those numbers and say we have the same situation I'd give it a lot more than that. Give some money up front and just give him another year -- like it's not prohibited -- get out from under it if you do find your guy but you at least you're paying the guy in your rewarding for a job well on this year. And you know -- go over with the team. Did not doing anything. Would I think is popular C news with his teammates. I would be would be a mistake. Well I think his people in that locker room looking at what's going on there that -- the -- with Kelsey -- and watch Whitner and yet they're gonna look would have to quarterback is it matters to players. With what's happening with the money. We talked about. With -- LeBron thing about what matter is these guys are all together. At some point. Not against management but it. It's about the money and it's almost like and what they deserve. It hurts it in my right in saying this -- earlier if the bills were to ignore that situation and let him go into his final year it would. He would raise eyebrows around the league it would be like negligence. To do that one way or another you address it if you. Don't wanna commit to him for. Five years at a good rate 67 million dollars I don't know they are four in ten. I definitely would not before that and I've I don't think I would be either that's I know I wouldn't that's a real here is my franchise quarterback kind of deal if not. -- money it's a very good. Obvious you don't wanna do that than you raised. The salary for a shorter period of time. That's what Denver did but you know what if you're Denver and you look at that now and go -- we do. He's okay 311. We talk about -- -- the quarterback is -- how much value as Fitzpatrick meant to the bills this year with that with their record be my 1000 tickets and. Accidentally set that went through all the money that all teams in the league Hispanic quarterback the last five years. And then what the bills that would save money at quarterback. Ever since splits they have an employer paid a big number not any thing man out but those number was that -- when they when they paid him for the three years so they've save money. For years on this position of the team's sale throwing millionaire guy and another draft an offer right in the NFL there's no. We don't know what's gonna while the league there's going to be a season. But I think that's a very good chance that if they play. That he's a starting quarterback the next two years. At some point may be. A a rookie. Gets in the lineup but I I don't think anybody's beat him up next year. -- everything -- -- and the next here after -- -- so if you've given the kind of for the year after and then. -- a rookie with a new -- salary system. Perhaps where that court -- isn't yet in the 50000100. Million thing and he's paid more like -- the MBA you're still very reasonably. Panel and your quarterback situation relative to the campus Munich can afford it and they should do it nation also get the next Karlos Dansby. And again it's it's like the savers I always compare the fact that dating -- make that team better is kill on this team. I just I just have to believe that. The date they won their division and -- dissenter. That this bills team goes and wins. That they were another 15 of the last eight. After going 08 and they don't go out and pay spend any money at free -- to do is expect them to be excited about that wanna wanna play art again and it's puts -- -- -- -- top position. He's got these players and -- this where they. While they played hard they don't quit all let's stop the -- they're. Succeeding for him fair point and making their careers. Surround them with some players that you can take advantage this while. You know while ball means something. Odd thing to have Gailey has any kind of power over there. And loves Fitzpatrick and really is thinking what he's saying about his relationship this quarterback and things you've asked them about. Then they would do we would seep its Patrick get extended I mean maybe for more than one year gave Gailey is gonna be here he's done. I think -- contracts for three more seasons. I think so that I'm looking at probably. -- they're going to have this conversation. Doesn't -- push for if that is worth anything and maturity is for Fitzpatrick to be around for longer.

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