Hi everybody good morning I -- Mike show could -- -- along with the hobby here again on a Saturday. I'll be here for the next hour and as always you've got any questions. Or interesting stories perhaps about about collecting. Maybe I know this is the case from any people who call in that you. Are really collector but maybe used to be or you have something you'd like to ask about I'll do the best I can't I think it's. Maybe a little -- definitely a little -- disingenuous to try to tell someone what something is worth without seeing it. But Tom. Short of that short of being able to tell you like a dollar amount that -- hopefully be able to steer you in the right direction. And we'll have some fun talking about it so. 8030550. Is the number four that we tend to get a lot of calls later run and then we run out of time before we can get everybody. Feel free to take the initiative and ended in early. I've got some some stuff today -- really enjoy talking about. Whether we get calls or not I'm I'm always excited about Super Bowl weekend like like many sports fans and for collector. They get me into a cup it gets me into a couple of areas that I enjoy thinking about and talking about. One being the Hall of Fame the vote for the football Hall of Fame is today. And this this one aspect of the football Hall of Fame when we talk about it on the show is important to mention. Because of the many times. I'll end up hearing from people who wanna know what to do with cards from the late eighties. And I'll always sometimes even. Being frustrated by how often that comes up and you know like how come people don't know yet but that's just the way it is. Aloft and just sort of dismiss it and say the look you've you've got nothing if you've got cards from the late eighties early nineties. Tremendous overproduction. It's not a valuable. Period I mean you really don't have much. But when it comes to one particular football set that's really not quite right. And that's the eighty ninth score set and I've mentioned it many times but it's good for me to mention it because of that last point and the 89 score football set. Which you might be able to buy. In in the factory box that it came in for like fifty or sixty dollars it's not super expensive is just. Good for a bad era. The eighty ninth score set for 330 cards. Well. Well liked and popular for its design it's got to simplistic design. And and fans have always liked this set but it also has. A tremendous. Number of Hall of Fame rookie cards. Now football -- like baseball or you have maybe one or two guys go in a year football you have a few every year that's that's how it is. But -- still. For 330. Card set from 1989. To have by my count seven. Hall of Fame rookie cards and it is really good and that number could go up to ten. Today. And maybe I doubt it will go up that many today it'll go up by at least one today I think maybe too. On and I might be missing somebody in fact some of the names on the finalists list today please enlighten me if you know. I don't know exactly what set the rookie card would would be from for instance last year Randall McDaniel got in. I didn't know what that meant. Four cards but they picked a pro set Carter PS they did PSA is the unofficial. I guess. Judge and jury on which -- is the defining rookie card and a player in the announce that for the set registry in the picked approach set rookie for McDaniel I know for Emmitt Smith they picked a a score traded card. As his like so called real rookie. -- so I don't know abouts America be 1989 but I don't know about Willie -- For instance and sometimes the but bowl linemen that -- then but I do know that you've got seven. Rookie cards from that set. That are already in the Hall of Fame by my count maybe it's more but it's at least seven Troy Aikman Barry Sanders Thurman Thomas. Michael Irvin rod Woodson. Derrick Thomas and Bruce Matthews. And may may be there are one or two others that I'm not. Thinking of right now and you have at least three finalists today who rookie cards come from 89 score and that's. -- Deion Sanders. Who probably castigated in today. Timber round who's been up for consideration a couple of times and hasn't made it. And Cris Carter who I thought was a really good candidate and he's missed before too. Day and Andre Reed -- up from from the wide receiver group and reads rookie card is 1986 top spot away. So if you get down. Really hot with with that group I just mentioned you could have ten hall of Famer rookie cards from 330 cards in the eighty ninth score set in the -- is. When you have. Those cards from ladies in early ninety's depending on how much time you wanna spend. Poring over them and really looking in researching what you have eighty ninth score some -- the exception as something that isn't worthless. I would say 89 upper deck baseball the first issue baseball -- has some value to of course the Griffey card. But not a lot after that just. It's it's on a notable set because it was upper decks first ever parts that. And this is a scores percent I believe 89 to people like you for that for that too. I also like with the Super Bowl the and just Super Bowl memorabilia and for me as I've mentioned initial couple times. MVP signed mini helmets that I started to collect. I don't have the ball in my possession yet but. Things that are at least coming my way included I think I'll have nine of them nine different players and that'll mean. Twelve. Different Super Bowls I think I've got three guys who won two. Let's coming along for me for those you know they showed no this. For me that's way farther along with a project and I usually ever yet. To be like a third quarter of the way. So I am that's coming along well and I said this on the show yesterday but you realize with Super Bowl collectibles when you collect MVPs are. Any kinda items from the winning teams you realize the same teams always win the Super Bowl. And that's kind of ironic isn't it for a league that is. Famous for its parity and how everybody's got a fair shot and how different it is -- fans says from baseball. Even though it's really not. How different the structure of it is from baseball now that every team has a chance to win you know it's the same teams that always do Pittsburg in Green Bay what a shock right I mean Pittsburgh. As one the most Super Bowls Green Bay has played in four before they've won three. So you don't time you don't often see new teams winning the Super Bowl you did last year with the Saints. But we we pounded them yesterday seven or eight teams have won about half the Super Bowls. So why am I'm thinking about that I wanna play a little bit of what -- I've what I've learned recently. About Super Bowl tickets. And -- and programs are another thing the people collect from soup Campbell's if anybody else gets a cauldron after this if anybody listening. Has any expertise in collecting Super Bowl tickets. Or -- programs may be just happened to have stuff safe from when the bills went. That I wanna talk about a little bit today and may be some of you can. Tell me about which you have in those areas and I also wanna talk about selling on eBay a little bit because I think it's helpful for people -- it. Maybe net may not be sure about whether they wanna go that route with some of their things to sell. But Tom I've been selling a little bit more or did sell a lot of stuff last week. And just a couple of tips are a couple of thoughts I have from that wanna make sure to get in today as well so. That's my plan what do you have to say 8030551. -- 8550. To 515 the number. Let's go to the phones here's John -- John. My house how are you that. I find. -- You know and payment the better -- on him. At -- At eight. Two years at the -- I think what happens is it depends on whether or not it's a given that they'll make it. I think with -- a player like Emmitt Smith. There's not going to be much of a change or Deion Sanders but I think they'll be there to be a little bit. I think though with a player like McDaniel who I mentioned earlier. Even though it's not our expense of card there can be a very big percentage increase it to you might be talking about a card it's worth. Less than a dollar. Ben people rush to get it graded to that it can be entered into a different set registries on the graded web sites. And it might sell for somewhere around ten times that depending on the grade so those are the guys were that really can pay off -- Thinking about. Somebody that he'd like you'd -- and improper able. I ardor. You cannot read about or that we know about right. And -- that the noted that that in Europe any you aren't art now. I'll bet is that there stuck it out. Yeah I've I think it all depends on how old likely it is that they'll make it and you know what -- -- the McDaniel example that does happen. Often enough mean it does happen often enough that there are especially linemen. Who don't always have many cards by the way. That the LB players who just don't get a lot of attention and even with all the attention that football gets and even the football Hall of Fame gets it's not until today. Were people really and if they make it they make it where there were people really talk about them. So I -- I that takes a lot of a lot of persistence a lot of patience to like and I'd also expertise to again to have identified Randall McDaniel say and then. Stocked up on his rookie cards for for the pennies they would have cost. And then eventually he gets voted in you send them off to be graded which is in free. And then sell them for a profit I think that can be done. What do you do you collect these these players. I don't I don't. -- -- at it. From. Looking at me and. -- there are well. Seven the eight. That's that's a sentimental year for me that was my first year ever collecting. Yeah mine and it. Out of the -- And end. I'll get right next. I was thinking about rice's as you said Boston Bryce racist card that said as he you're looking at his face is is looking to the left. Well at. All -- -- Thanks John nice talk to you. -- don't Tom. I don't really mean as far as they don't but don't get me started on the 78. Seven the excess that's just like those are permanently. Ingrained in my head and that's always fun for me to talk about on the show and and not just because I'm indulging myself but with with other people. Who might have the same. Feelings if I might. About other sets the date that they first collected 1978. I think I was young for I would've been six. But I was really carried away with it and some of those and I was just dabbling in 78. Oh peachy which is a like a parallel set. That's quite right but set DO PG company. Produced baseball sets in the seventies that were smaller than the top sets. But an -- the backs were a little different the numbering was different but the pictures were all the same. And I bought a box of those last year at some point just for fun to be able to open packs from 1978 look at those pictures and try to land a good Eddie Murray -- I didn't. There was a Marie in the first pack I open but there wasn't. Anything of migrated there with -- peachy now I'm just sort of off on a tangent. But with all peachy. The the edges are often very rough and this was true of their hockey cards even into the eighties. So while -- but that doesn't always mean bad things for upgrading. Because. -- -- maybe that's just because the cards were often that way it's it's been odd for me to see some audio peachy graded cards with the rough edges. Comeback in high grade I -- -- Scott Stevens rookie card that had. One or two edges that were not perfectly smooth and edges are part of the grating. Process that something of course anything pertaining to the card would be and discard came back at ten which I thought was really them. Confusing and further added some my age is sort of bet being baffled at sometimes -- the other grating turns out all right. Thank you John 8030550. Is the number of of the focus on the Super Bowl today or the Hall of Fame but that doesn't mean you have to if you wanna give me a call. The the idea of the reporter wanted to make a few points wanted to make about about selling on eBay. I'm inclined to wait. Until after the first break to do that. Because it's a little bit sort of like a -- secure some things to remember or to just keep in mind if your if you're going to do that but. Sometimes with this kind of a topic I'll never get too. Because. People call in and then we end up going in in all these different directions so why -- well I'll risk it all week. But let me tell you a little bit about about Super Bowl tickets and it's not much because they've never collected Super Bowl tickets and I don't know a heck of a lot about them. But I did do some research on it for today. And one thing I did was search eBay for Super Bowl tickets and of course if you just type in Super Bowl ticket. A lot of what comes up our tickets to tomorrow's game. And yes they're still selling for into the thousands. On eBay that's that's still lump like that I suppose a fairly commonly done. Tickets being sold that way. But Tom they're also a lot of old ticket stubs from Super Bowls being sold there as is the case with a lot of big cards usually it's. Under the buy it now category were people set a price in the you can only. By if you wanna pay their price and that's unfortunate sometimes wish eBay didn't even have that. And just let it be for auctions but that's just -- a lot of -- hobby is people have cards and they say oil we want a salad. If I can sell -- for this price which is some. Kinda good price relative to the book price and that which you -- them what you have is just tens of thousands of things sitting on eBay. That the general public is just way too smart -- to buy at those prices and it's all a big waste of time. So. Anyway. Super Bowl tickets lot of old Stubbs are on eBay some are on graded army I guess I should take on authenticated. But you know buyer beware they look legitimate enough it's got just got to use your own judgment and I'm sure some of room. Probably are fakes but perhaps most of them are not. And there is some big money in that I've got to a price guide with me that points out. The differences in prices. For all the Super Bowl tickets and but this is just maybe I'm naive about this spot. It's just always kind of uninteresting to me how. There there's this big money. Trains acted on on used Super Bowl tickets which. Just make sense because those would be rarer you know in the old days people would terror the bottom off the perforated bottoms off the tops off the tickets. But my goodness how many people. Had Super Bowl tickets that they didn't use. May be in the old old days the early days of the game it wasn't that unusual because the tickets were not really expensive. And maybe people had them because they just knew people in the league. But never intended to fly to Miami or New Orleans or Houston to go to the game maybe that's why there are enough. On used Super Bowl tickets. To -- explained by there'd be. Listings in price guides for them it's just seems like with the Super Bowl how many could how many tickets could go on used. But time that's my best guess that in the old days. There were just tickets distributed to people the news and people and have any intention of of going to the game they just collected them or something about -- -- that's quite right. But you do have a lot of of the more moderate Super Bowls and have a lot of us of stubs that are sold and they also don't know enough about. -- when tickets are scanned that I presume they're not. -- now. And or haven't been for years. What -- does that mean to the price -- mean does does it matter any more than the ticket is used. People when their buying these tickets aren't standing to see if they've been used before so there's another part of it -- not I'm not quite up to speed but. There are some very big numbers. In in old Super Bowl tickets and if I'm so inclined to get into a couple of details on that but the the idea bringing up is just tell you a little bit and then hoping that. Maybe somebody listening or some people listening have some experience. With Super Bowl tickets because I really don't. 8030550. Is the phone number hoped to hear from you next this is the hobby. I much open this is WGR. Welcome back to the hobby I am Mike show glad to have you along today. Those are slow so you've been waiting for the right chance to call not be great for me 8030550. Is the number the Super Bowl is tomorrow and talked a lot about a few things relative to that. With the Super Bowl comes the Hall of Fame vote that's later today actually they're meeting. They meet at 9 I believe central time that's pretty. Pretty common but the announcement is now it's like put everything in sports seems. Is drawn out it's on TV prime time as recently as 2001. -- that would have been. January or February of 2002. When the Super Bowl was in New Orleans that year after 9/11 Patriots Rams I was there for the announcement Jim Kelly made it that year. And it was on the relative to now just very modest they they did. Probably broadcasted somewhere but it was just an remember being in this hotel room this big like -- -- ball room it was. And they announced that they but they. Had some big signings that they made up of the players sued received. Enough votes to make it and they just lifted these two -- up from over them and then you saw what they were. And that was it in the media was there were a lot of us crammed into this room to see that to be there for that announcement. But now it's more drawn out now you have the players were sometimes in the back room and maybe they just come right out when their announced. Like everything with football has gotten into a TV show. So why am that's tonight Deion Sanders likely to make it. Read I don't know Curtis Martin and Shannon Sharpe -- an up before our couple more interesting ones and Jerome Bettis a mature any of those guys have to get in. Maybe Bettis or -- who I think are both first timers it's a may be one of them. Makes it Curtis Martin's one of those guys from me who was always really good but never great. And the Hall of Fame in sports. And particularly in football where there's I'm a quota a minimum every year. The whole -- makes room for guys like that sometimes. So welcome. I'd expect him to get in someday if not today. Lines open 8030515. Let me do what I told you want to do here. In the absence calls and tell you some things about. About eBay selling it's a question I get a lot. Is he based safe do you recommend it for selling cards and I do. And -- I would recommend view you trust the the marketplace. You're I made that comment before about people who. Just won't put cards up at their prices. And very often those prices are ridiculous. So. If you wanna sell the card. Or whatever the -- says if you wanna -- it. Trust it put it up for 99 cents given a week. Put it up so that sells at night may be a Sunday night is best although maybe not selling tomorrow although it's too late for that. And just trust. If you wanna sell a card that you see selling on eBay for fifty dollars and you want a 150 dollars for a he put up at that price for buy it now that's great you'll get cheated what else happened you'll never sell. So mom that's just a big waste of time I think but that's not really the point of this because I don't do -- that way. The what what I what I wanted to tell you about. Was that I did some things I guess it would've been out two weeks ago when I set down and banged all this out. That -- like many collectors I would say this is probably true love. It's it's necessary to do it you wanna do it and that's go through your boxes. May be the things that you really don't value is much but you have because you've bought. On open product and you ended up just with a lot of this stuff that you opened bitches are sitting on. And you go through that and you wanna sell that stuff and eBay is the best way to do that. You can go to a dealer with that all or you know hopefully if if you're lucky -- and a friend -- collect maybe somebody would want a certain player but for the most part. You're you're not gonna get anywhere doing it that way you need the Internet for that it's where the Internet is great for the collector. Because you can buy a box of ultimate or exquisite football from a couple of years ago. And maybe end up with one or two cards you really want or not and just go to sell them you need the Internet for that. The Internet makes. All those big high end products. Possible. Because without that if you if you didn't have a chance to resell anything you wouldn't put all that money down and we would have that stuff. So that's how -- its belt. But ultimately it's you have to sit down and scam the Carter take the picture. Don't ever sell anything without doing that you're cheating yourself you've got to put the time in get the scanner. Dude that. And then roll the dice. And what I ended up doing was picking out about thirty cards many of which were just not big at all. But -- cards that add enough value that they would have sold on line. For a couple a couple of dollars -- mean parallels that -- an autograph parallels to base cards that someone out there is collecting Mangini. Certified. Parallel cards to 45 mean just stuff that I didn't needed all I didn't care about at all. But that I might have been able to get to were three dollars for. Plus shipping on an eBay sale that's exactly what happened. But here's the thing. You take one of those cards and say I'd hoped to get even five dollars for. Plus shipping its lead to shipping cost out because that shipping cost is costing you to. And we can talk about that maybe -- will but. You -- you decide you have this. -- I don't I don't need to -- example but the one the keeps coming back to me is -- Giacomo and old Hall of Fame hockey player who's got. Who was who was in this new meaning set that I bought a box of a few months ago. So I've got this car it's numbered 25 somebody out there's probably trying to build. Up parallel -- cards only the 25 from the -- set kind of a cool thing to do nice project. So -- need to put it up. And I think the best case scenario is get five dollars for -- so I scanned it. And -- to go into eBay and build the listing. You're right the listing out being very careful to make sure everything's right and nothing superfluous or redundant as there 201011. Beanie certified as jock command and slash 25 HOS. Want to hit the search engines result just for something that's gonna cost at most five dollars or net me. At at most five dollars. So. You do that. Than your right the listing you're betting on -- that about same thing condition of the card how it's number what's the number of the card on the back not the you know the short print aspect of it but just -- is a card number ten is a card number when he whatever that -- and help a little bit. Explain the shipping. How much is gonna cost. Do you give refunds. -- descended insured not discard. All the different things that go into it. And you know if you do it enough times you'll have. If -- be easier he'll he'll be faster but it's still takes awhile. And then you decide if you're not. Going to sell it right then because I have time in the morning to do this sometimes so -- to designate a starting time for the auction. And you go maybe maybe you're getting the drift here you go through all of this. And then you're done and it's five minutes later if -- fast. And your card is up and you hope to get five dollars four. Plus the three dollar shipping. You know maybe eight bucks. Total. Then the card sells. And you have to package it. And address an envelope. Give you know hopefully you'll leave feedback person paid quickly. Then you go to the post office. And yourself or or your ship it. And that costs a couple dollars -- get the envelopes. All this so you're looking at at least five minutes on the front and at least per listing. And whatever it adds up to worry you have to package the card and send it off. On the other end. And I didn't get five dollars for that card I got what I deserved to get -- tell -- -- is in my opinion. Always you get what you deserve to get and it was two dollars and 27 cents I believe I got. And I walk away from that just having this dilemma. That. I'm glad to have eBay for this. I need to be able to sell these things that I by collectors do. Mean how else can you sell it. So. You need to have this but was it worth it for me to put the time in in front and then the time in in the back. For a card that I ended up selling for two dollars and 27 cents. The three dollar shipping that I charge to -- from that the the price of the envelope that I bought. And the trip to the post office I mean whatever that amounts to. You know you're talking about to something very small and then at at that upper multiply that by a twenty because I sold -- twenty cards that sold for very small. Amounts. I don't know I don't know what I think about that I think that I'm glad to have been able to Celek. And clean out my collection a little bit not that I it would say that when he cards really makes that much of a difference but what else am -- going to do with it. If I do nothing. Some day I die and some dealer comes and and buys up all my stuff at an estate sale or something. And all that stuff really doesn't amount to anything. -- what happens to a and it's not worthless you know it it has some value what about cards that are worth ten dollars. I don't know I don't know what I think about all this it's just dumb. It's just like to -- good. That I was able to make these transactions and get them out of my house and get a little bit of money for it in the end might. Thirty or so cards -- up to 200 dollars that's a nice number. But I put a lot of time into it on both ends and it shall not even done packaging and selling all these cards so. Just I'm not trying to make a particular point about it because I don't know how I feel about it. But maybe it can give you some perspective. On whether or not selling on eBay works for you there's certainly a benefit to doing it -- got this money that I wouldn't -- had. But I also put a lot of time into it and I'm not sure it was really that well spent. 8030550. Were getting some calls and get back to that right after sports. I'm Mike show open this is the hobby on WGR. I'm Mike Schobel welcome back to the hobby will get some calls and a moment. Tough loss for the Sabres not a bad little hockey game to watch. Boy Lindy Ruff called that timeout right on time -- -- To go -- owner comes nothing suited to. -- there goes nothing the rated to upload our in trouble eight. Timeout let me see if I can turn the momentum around in this game he did. All right got that out of of my system let's go to the phones here's bill I've built. I don't know what. I'm just got to Santa RD catch and 1976. To complete that just curious what they might be out work everybody. Depends on condition. It's it's not a big set if you're talking about the Topps set from 756. To right. Not not a big set the dealer might sell it for. Fifty or sixty box may be. Lots of that to thanks for the call bill lots of that in no circulation. Guessing on the number really depends on condition. And if you're talking what I give you what the dealer might sell it for the wanna buy it for less than half that. But mid seventies hockey. Mid seventies hockey's adjusting for me if you if you wanna become a collector. It's it's -- -- entry point mean you have. Cards that are 35. Or so years old and that Tom are not like super comments that we're talking late eighties with that. But I'm just don't seem to have to be big value. Mid seventies pretty much anything the football sets do okay. But 76 baseball. 76 basketball 76 hockey. Just not a lot -- going around there. Not a great year for four of the hobby and you know what it's part of that too is the third start or not that many big rookie cards the football set does okay probably because Walter Payton -- -- But baseball you have Packers lead. -- dream. Hockey 76. I don't know our Achilles. And now. So not not the most exciting time here's Mike next time Mike. And Mike I think well your essay not about you let eBay my hand out or treat that Internet stopped at a party -- is kind of wanted to. You know from -- Chipping thing and it's on the receiving but -- All old point of in a pretty can pick out there and the whole transaction or what you hit into an article one. Early on that until and other people say -- it's been an -- I. You know maybe they don't get it even doing -- not make a lot of money is part of using -- and being a collector yeah. No I am glad you said that. It's not so much fun for me as it is necessary. Like well also here in and questioned whether Mike and I've spent my time wisely. But boy you have to do it mean you you're you really have to just clean clean yourself out that way. And I guess I just. I know would not spent like. You're in the right. Yen on thank you I'm glad you said that. He can be fun. That's the tedious part for me is. The the scanning. And then that the trip to the post office. But he can be fun and I never feel like I'm being cheated. Money terribly. If something sells for two dollars then that's what it needed to sell for a night I don't ever feel like I'm being cheated that way in there are ways to make. -- eBay listings. Do better than others mean that's. But the time that he you're selling you wanted to be at night I think and you know you wanna make sure you think about. Who your audiences in where where in the world most of it's located. Bomb. You want if you're selling a part of hockey player. That's especially popular in the west. I think you want. Them I think you want people in the west to be able to bid on it -- at ten or 1030 at night. And that means. Selling it at 1130 in the morning eastern time that's debatable. Maybe you're selling something that you think will be most popular in Europe. You said it to sell in the middle of the day our time. The -- cells in prime time in Europe who knows you ever I was gonna end up buying these things I sell some baseball cards that. Have some sold in Russia and it's just like really odd for me that that would happen but that's one of the the charms of the day I suppose. Time for one more here's Jeromy with a -- Jeremy. They are. Considered I'm deterred got a ding bat at dawn rush. Early -- I don't remember a year but it was like the rookie. Back. And and Eric wing drugs Toronto Blue Jays rookie card. Oh yeah that's that's vaguely familiar that they produce those it was done Rossi thank. Okay I am not sure. Minorities somewhere bulldogs do where it is on the -- right now and. -- it's it's not worth anything. Really -- note and anything from those years -- I may be wrong you might wanna double checked but. Anything from it. Yeah that's right that's right if it when I talked about value I always limited to monetary value but things have other kinds of value and it's kind of a funny card. Right so well I'm conversation -- exactly let -- let it be worth something to you in that respect I think that's a good way to look at it. But it is. Or quick question are -- McDonald's cards were up anything. There have been different incarnations of McDonald's cards will which are we talking mid eighties. Germany. And on her myself sorry I gotta go can have that. I remember collecting McDonald's football cards in the mid eighties there and other things mcdonalds is gone in Canada. Since we're voice in my column from Canada -- I've I've bought like some hockey sticks collectible hockey sticks from McDonald's in Canada in the last five years. Check with I know I say a lot sharper people were sick insane it. But it's really necessary go to eBay and search whatever it is search McDonald's. Search lindros Blue Jays. And see what people are paying for -- whatever it is you have. That's the absolute best way to find out what the value is not what a book says now what -- radio guys says what people in the real world are paying for it. Thanks for listening today folks I'm Mike show have a great weekend.