And -- -- he's funny and Sullivan just socks yes your comments mean something to us we've invited Jerry -- an Intel Maliki. Why do you buy New York's only an -- -- -- we're select going to buy one get one for penny everything. Seven fives only -- -- -- moment at buffalo football Monday Howard Jeremy. Dan here on WGR you can get involved in the conversation as well -- 03055888552550. Who were what is the goat from the game yesterday. It is Ryan Fitzpatrick because He made mistakes and Eli Manning didn't and the bills lost the football game. It was a play call by Chan -- to go for which will discuss with Sally and that's Patrick made a bad throw. Under through a guy who was opened and that ends up biting the bills in the rear and not the no takeaways. Not the extremely bad day for Drayton Florence dispatcher threw two bad picks. He is the subject of our web poll by the way what's your current feeling on the idea Rob Ryan Fitzpatrick contract extension. Signed him he's our guy going forward wait until the end of the season evaluate that -- I'm not interest did the shortcomings will always be there. Speaking of shortcomings for pointed out by Jerry Sullivan in this column this morning in the Buffalo News and we will talk about that -- buffalo football Monday solid good morning how are you. There aren't so let's get down to brass -- your cell it's a very simple explanation fits with bad Manning was good bills lose and of story. But when when look at Iowa I will tell you that. I considered writing just that column than what I would consider writing when they were winning benefits they've won that series outplayed three of these top. Quarterbacks in. You know -- would have a great team triumphant triumph for them but it doesn't make throat so. I chose. Look at all of the reasons that they lost. He has raised the standard and yet -- you're expecting him to go beat you like Manning appeared gonna get a big contrary there's both the political fine points on -- -- pretty good game. With a moment of truth He -- He doesn't make the throws were were brilliant back to where. To where we were. Whenever early in the year before the year what's the right number Bryant hit just after considering it shortcomings. He wanted to sign a long term. And may be organization. The -- the -- Of the there have been better way to treat him like this where it is shortcomings are evident. But He can't make the throws Sully I mean there were. Pressure throws in Oakland and in the New England game and against Philadelphia and he's led his team from behind yesterday He made two bad passes and -- a game where. It was really close the two -- drop us a very close He made two mistakes Eli Manning didn't play mistake free game and basically that was it can make the throws. I. He can and can't do it this date -- -- and get back -- of the -- -- always saying. When -- -- -- I've become a Harvard guy again with the bad armed you know. I'm on a quarterback like Tom Brady and Michael Beckett who wore on the road -- buffalo and then make it about a million dollars a year so. We are Georgia market and other people. I would put the game right on him and when it does come down to that. Dislike him -- -- I couldn't believe that they put the ball right. -- to build -- really really late pass near the goal line could've picked off it would have been crushed and Eli Manning there you have Manning atom. Better armed -- rioted after we know that. But I can't -- the whole game on him. Minutes of the sixty minute football game they gave -- at a passed version take the ball away which event do and they don't -- 27 point one report enough. But again that I I think Dan was really upset with with the Specter that was a little. Evident just thinking maybe emphasize we need to make those two pros that's -- be the straight up guy. He He praises that when we've done all the great stuff an eleven dollar yesterday -- one of the reasons I think He was especially. -- you that He called a great game that the coach. That whole thing him in -- and the in the field I mean name. He dialed up all kind of new and -- He gets Spiller on the field He get them what He wants one on one with a quarterback for the best receiver and and that doesn't happen. So He would He was upset. And now with this it's now the next two weeks you know behind closed doors in the front office they're gonna talk about those throws when they decide what -- this guy. What did you think of the plate caught I don't have a problem first down at the warnings first down in ten rather at the 47. Little over four minutes left you're tied at 24 you have momentum you had scored on your previous possession you're defense just out got their first three and out since the first half and you're driving it the big -- -- Nelson stretch in the field. I love the idea of going -- there right He made a bad throw but I don't think it's -- bad play call. But it a lot of it. It'd it was -- -- the -- -- were among the I always tell you what I pick -- time at the time I thought you know they're they're dirty or here are. You'd get them on their heels. Look for on the ball well let's -- -- and clocked at. And not give the ball right back commanding image making that throw and that's not what I would call a time writing to the degree of may mark on that and a lot that would put you want picture Rhonda. But I don't that's what I thought euros but you make the partially there on their heels of -- on the heels kick the door. Google's of the knock out well I -- there and it'd be an inhaled into the rock and and time. You know to keep pounding -- run clock and I'm not saying it is obviously not clear call people on both sides and -- and leg is Bryant says. If they go if He wrote that -- stopped playing their attacking -- This is the -- and aggressive approach. I'm -- I thought it's time. But I can see what can they can arc -- you know I'm not the position now. Second guessing game gala as opposed because I didn't think I really do the field and the brilliant -- the protest He saw them He brought opportunity. And I think you saw one on one matchup do what to look forward to that I wanna put the game away. And I think. Really deep down I think -- might -- I wanna be a seven not to re invited three dislike of -- Tom Brady. I think that got gonna mark on the field I want to have to scored seven Tibetan people thinking I can understand that. And offended if I had -- -- probably at the time I thought differently and I understand the argument and that's great it's good for a. I'd. Be a fun experiment if you could find bills fans and bring them all together and pause it. As Fitz Patrick -- cocked back about the throat STI electrical right now you know at this moment when you see Johnson behind Webster He got behind him twice. And its its its not Gerri because I agreed it. I don't you wrote something about downfield speed receiver I think they miss their receivers having their their their very thin they don't have a really great downfield threat. But at the same time -- got behind this guy twice make cutting couldn't get in the ball so sometimes the downfield threat is as frightening as the quarterback and that's Patrick was not a threat -- on the field yesterday. Great point committee -- that the black about duke beat them armed quarterback they go together. That together they create a problem. There is in need it and it'll operate separately cattle He had -- amber and Beatty didn't get the ball. And I don't I want someone else to be run and written -- those on the strength the strength that is underneath but -- short. Make it you can delegate here but that -- point is that this is correct they've lost. You know three guys. We're -- Stevie Johnson who were supposed to be providing -- threat to the quarterback. And -- -- that is the problem and teams are gonna. They're keyed up a little bit that would at Baghdad again against them -- that was part of it is to have intent that they're they're playing up against the run they've held a bit torn after the -- -- the second half. I've got to make them pay. We can't think they had that -- government dictate the game you've been. Hold that plane -- pocket ballgame this Billy remembered overtime. And I think He was ready that -- the media I think you're mad that they missed the first time and He and He wanted to as a coach who -- offense and and knows that tipster -- get this play on them at the put them away so the more I think about it you know -- might get some defending -- it. While telling its time and a different thought this apparently shared by a lot of people. Well tomorrow part two races which was four minutes -- you get a couple of first down you know you -- Jackson used some clock. And kick a field goal at the minute or by calling out the data that they now obvious that the run -- -- stopped clock is an easy at the end of a game. And the passing game have been more successful on the run game outside of that one -- The second half I believe I -- the -- would Jackson at fourteen yards rushing and six carries so in terms of the way they are running the football they were not running effectively in the second half. Yeah MI -- picture in my picnic about the past but not during an interception intercepted whereas some than middle field might. They don't just take a shot here at the thinking you know what the plight that the we -- it. We moved closer we get reported your fuel and Belden missed those sort of -- that I was up a lot lower risk -- -- been picked up earlier. And it and they ago. And that put that put it on himself. So I think you read about the defense you know like Nike said what when a guy I was thinking about this during the game one. When you're calling the game at the offensive coordinator -- are -- taking into account when your offense is doing. But you also have to know what your defense and since the head coach is the play caller you have to know your defense and I think. If I'm Chan -- you're right maybe I don't play if I have like up the ravens defense maybe I'll play it safe and run Fred a few times and trying kicker -- bonds they are my guys are gonna hold on -- just up. A stand you up in your tracks defense. They aren't and they hadn't had to take away and they weren't getting the two Eli Manning the pressure was not getting to him. And I think He figured I need seven I don't need three I need seven point worst case scenario they rolled down the field that still. I agree that I think you did the Clinton wearing down or talk about backup -- -- so on the have been planning and -- that second half of the giants ravaged. -- -- -- -- -- They were gonna they're gonna move. Well running the ball and throwing the ball and I and I think He knew that. Andy's you don't during the Clark is having a rough game -- in aimed at part of -- He played well but I think -- -- down a little bit -- -- could you just are prepared for real games you practiced all you want -- -- -- the late in the game. And you know you -- Kellen heard it nose tackle and there was a lot to be topic but I'll -- they play pretty well all -- considered. But it was still -- the other part of fifty yard defensive effort by and a defense that's world better I'm concerned. Yeah I mean I don't like the yards -- but look on el Al counter at this way that. The -- no pass rush. No takeaways. And it's a tie game in your offense is in position to scorn you've got a chance to take the lead on the road with four minutes left against a good football team and a really good quarterback. Really that tells you. You've got a good -- got to get these. It get a team with character and what they're thinking because they expect when -- can't -- just we've hostilities in three weeks and they're back to perhaps they commit backbone made. They are taken both the -- used to those people have spoke to lose those games anymore. Number not -- being dispirited but they don't like -- the body like this the trust this coaching staff to get them ready more about Carl Williams aboard about Herman Moore about the defense. My daughter's injuries that our long term to me. I think Williams is legit -- I here's -- -- on merriment on does not expecting anything when I heard Achilles I thought I'd I'm just gonna get myself in the place where he's not going to be a factor but I think it's -- Great point about Williams because. I -- terrorists gonna faced double teams anyway but well they're trying to get the Manning yesterday I'm thinking if you had Williams out there He stills that he's occupying one or two other guys out there. And with -- isn't -- not being there it's a big problem. Do a big problem what I'm saying is that He said that this foot injury was there to -- before the season. And it could bone spurs I don't I'm not at Procter and all along that -- penalty trial news than usual athlete who. Who pushes off and makes quick -- in space not going to great player. And if He doesn't have that he's just another load another guy and law and Herman book I didn't think you I don't expect anything that they came in here last October. Or ever -- with a with a sore Achilles that bothered him thirty minutes and his first practice a year later the same Achilles takes a -- of the game like this I expect nothing from and a and then in fact they've gotten very little. There are there any excuses. Well they're getting pressure and you know that that's called eternal regret that a lot of -- afford to -- Merriman has been a very little part of in my opinion. Jerry Sullivan Buffalo News Thomas -- this year on W -- as buffalo football Monday 8030550. To join us. I know you were busy with the bills game and you were busy writing after the bills game -- as you've explained to us. Sometimes -- can be -- three -- four hour process did you get a chance to see the Jim Schwartz Jim Harbaugh dust up. Did not I just heard about it and a lot Harbaugh -- caveat that it can I wanted our border after a gym that I just think gulping and it's great because I love. Controversial stories then. That's the -- a guy who's slowed down league. Known here I am I'm. There are people that don't like him apparently you are what I complete life. Yeah He He can rubbed the wrong way no question of did you ever see there's a it was a great. HBO. I think it was real sports they did the sit down with him and his brother John. Check it out it's probably available on demand and YouTube. And you can absolutely listen to those guys and realized I you know John Harbaugh the same way he's made some enemies in time he's been -- Baltimore. There are a pretty. I don't know about cocky or arrogant whatever like it's they can rub people the wrong way but. I have no problem Harbaugh He showed some enthusiasm He won the game I think if you watch -- when you get a chance to meet Jim Schwartz comes off as the biggest sore loser in the world. And loved it adult clothes based steel cage match the Ryan's first the Harbaugh the once. That action that would be enjoyable. Heck there was one -- -- ask you about that now I can remember. Good good good Damon Roosevelt by the way yeah that was able and I called a marginal -- -- and the people -- on the effects sorry I mean but thought. The local boy -- can play any NFL but -- here I don't practice squad car and then -- -- -- but you vector is looking. That in my -- buy it marginal -- still happy form. Yeah not really nice and it was nice he's not a fast guy it was nice He was able that was all run after catch that He wasn't caught from behind and dragged down and He was able to you know get past those guys -- run down the field is it -- Planet lot of smart guys in the offense -- just -- -- -- how is it wrong to say I wish you had another casts. Mean at one it'll go on camera and brought it or heat over his head. Yeah I'm I'm wondered why. New they went on the field and -- -- on the field the developing all other issue -- that for another time but that that was really interest thing. -- putting him out there and you have a decent back. I thought it works pretty well -- I thought it you know he's not not necessarily receiver by trade but I thought He made. Receiver like -- is needed look like a back as a receiver He made a couple of really nice catches up. New and I'm very very separate and act overall to do that but. But they aren't you picked a good news out of it -- -- -- ninth overall I mean they're not that that right here I'm just saying like every time -- that would -- Shuster up every time that comes up it's like they pick them ninth every day. He's already on the team. If you change daily you don't walk in the offers every day and say Jesus take the stand on the -- say how can I use and I thought it was a a nice way to use and I was impressed. It did Thomas -- -- million dollars every bit too and I'm not political. Interpret deployed America you know. Seriously when argued passionately on the did did you see okay. Bomb but I also wanna give a quick thing David Nelson. Three catches on third downs for first downs they've got a smart offense. You know that the game all boils down to it and we talk about this and -- to break. The reason I don't get mad at the defense theory you bring up totally legitimate points on the defense you're not wrong it's just 'cause I expect the same game from them every week. And I've got it just about every week and they're four and two and they live and -- with fits in that office or anyone else they get the ball Margaret I love. I just want fits the make the throws and I know He wants to make the throws. And we like human we root -- -- but right now this team is a team that's as good as their quarterback and at times he's really good and when that happens they went. And when he's not they lose so. It -- that that's that's what a good team in the NFL it's the saints lost yesterday -- the box Drew Brees at three interceptions you know it's. House -- gonna play against the Redskins He plays really well they'll win. They've gotten -- a league where if their quarterbacks good they'll win and he's not Duluth which is a micro recorder which is where most of the teams in the league are. Mr. Michael that block quarterback victim hit ten million throw to a reception up in a man -- game. So we don't forget you're on at five. Mario LB -- wanna remind you it's only that -- -- Terry Sullivan columnist for the Buffalo News he's the.