All Immelt extended post game show coverage continues right here on WGR Sports Radio 550 yards out about your debut here in pushing all the buttons produce and and that dollar giving you updates. On games going around the National Football League right now and others that have -- earlier on thanks a lot for joining me. Give me a call right here tonight at 8030515. Or 888550. To 515 the Buffalo Bills today dropped to five and seven. A 23 to seventeen loss. To the Tennessee Titans. And this game was in a -- called a microcosm of the season. Because it kinda was a little different in the way that happen it's not like -- Fell apart from having a lead as they did this season by having a five and two record early on. But I'll say that this game is an example. Of what we've seen from this franchise and from this organization. All rolled into one. For what we're used to in how they played today. Is kind of an example. Of what we've seen from them over the last several years. And that is that especially over this year. Where they just seem like they're always so close they might be able to do it and then something happens where they. While basically. For lack of better term -- on their own way. That's -- they did today. I felt that way as soon as the Scott Chandler fumble occurred early in the second half. The bills came out the second half down by a touchdown. Stopped the Tennessee Titans early on. Forced upon and a nice play to start the second half that looks like you're gonna drive in and Scott Chandler it's not he doesn't go down. A lot of times you'll say just go down to -- down I agree with that. Instead of trying to play for those yards -- their buddies around you but it's not that easy to go down all the time either guys are actually trying to hold you up to strip the ball. He doesn't go down the ball comes out Nike that play didn't lose them the game but that was kind of symbolic of the way. That this game was in that this season is for the Buffalo Bills. In what I mean by that is this season. Is one that's been right now. Here we are twelve games it. Especially the last five or you just say you know they're just not ready. They're just not there yet in in fact. In fact. Looking over and thinking about it since the game ended Q plus hours ago. I think -- case can be made that this team may have actually regressed since last year at this point. Who knows a healthy Fred Jackson healthy air what things are little different. Maybe they're not sitting at five and seven maybe they're six and six made -- seven and bot somewhere in there. But I think -- case can be made that this team is actually regress now. At this point this year from this point last year remember last year they started 08018. They won four of their last eight they put -- for the last -- to finish -- twelfth. The last eight games allow people to at least think there was something -- come. And that's something brighter did show up it showed up in the first basically five games this year but really the first seven their five into. But since then. What can we look fortune now. As far as something brighter coming along. And that's wanna get to today. Not about this game most of it didn't even see today's game -- you went to the game maybe you're still there you're driving home in your listening thanks a lot for that I appreciate it. A lot of he didn't even hear -- just listened to on the radio you tune in after so you didn't see it I should say. So I could spend. Too much time talking about the minutia that went into this game in the loss. There are some things we could talk about here with CJ Spiller play or right it's Patrick to play or things like that the fumble I brought up there are some things we could talk about but the overall picture now. Is abundantly more important here. Because they're not going to playoffs I really actually believe because I am the I guess. The way I just am naturally I'm kind of the eternal. Optimist always thinking well if they win today in the jets lose and the Bengals lose and the Broncos lose you know it's six and six -- -- -- that's not happening obviously anymore so now we can move on and say okay we know for sure even I can say. Whether it's mathematically or not doesn't matter they're not making the playoffs it was probably the case before and it is the case now. So what is left now from here. Until the end of the season. What is left. My question to you what what do you wanna see what just happened. For this team this organization what ever be. For you buying. Christmas. New Year's actually weekend in after the last game of the regular season in the last game of the season their four. After that what has to happen from now until them. For you to have to say OK maybe there's something brighter ahead because I. I don't know if I can say that right now the way it is it is worked out the last several weeks I've felt that way early in the year I felt may be playoffs. And even I said you know. Even if -- Just don't make the class in the inning play competitive and teams catch up too many shoppers and injuries they finished nine wins or ten wins -- miss out on tie breakers. That's a DM good season considering coming from where they came from last year -- was even. In I prepared myself for that but that's not even the case anymore and she Gailey just said his own press -- to you just heard. Ready RW GR. It's going to be tough to keep these guys focused and up. For the remainder of the season knowing they're out of it. But he also said which he's right but we were supposed to be professionals we have to act that way and we have the play that way. Is it. Changes in personnel. Is it simply watching certain guys play certain ways is it changes in coaching staff. What has to happen between now. In the end of the season because some of you or is it as simple as you don't care. You. Are already ready to throw in the towel and say you know what call me when they make the playoffs again whether it's next year three years from now or another decade from now. I'll be honest I can't go there. I'll probably never go there I am not that kind of person that I can pretty much safely say I will never go there. In you can call me naive. And that's fine I understand but. You know what I don't I don't go work on -- Saturdays and Sundays I'm not a car person out even know. If you open up hood -- I'd be looking at an -- sticky -- I don't go fishing on Lake -- I don't use of again you know my Sunday's. I love football I love sports I loved the Buffalo Bills out of band first and foremost so I will always try to look for what can we do what has to happen for next year. That doesn't mean that I can't be critical in say that I think this team may have regressed this year. But I have to start looking now at what needs to happen between now. In not only January 1 second and battery rate after the neck the last game. But then up until the draft and after that over the summer it really really depresses me to think about that. Because it's another long off season. And it's been a lot -- off seasons. I promise I'm not crying it might sound like that but. Gave my voice a little bit about a little under the weather the last few days so it's key to weaken -- engine and things like that somewhere hoping for you to save me and tell me what you think about all that. 8030515888550. To -- it -- Q numbers to call. Big picture rest of the season what do you look in Florida happen. If you wanna talk about anything happen to be my -- absolutely that's what we need to do today too because there are some things I thought the bills were out just in the second half in the run game. He had something going with CJ Spiller he'd look good in the first half and then all of a sudden the Tennessee Titans shut him down. The build a better job on Chris Johnson but. Something tells me Johnson wasn't feeling all agree the second -- because Javon Ringer took over for him a lot but some of those key situations. Chris did that Johnson did finish the game and in the last drive -- it was important -- ringer took a lot of carries away from him so I'm not sure that. In an -- let's say the bills that a good job on her shots and either heat each warmup. Get over 150. 8030 -- 5888550. To 550 Tommy here in Rochester in your on the post game show go ahead. -- -- Okay yeah I was -- a -- whoever picked up at the end. I don't know why we would. I'm not gonna start with that you've got to be kidding. Yes because Donovan McNabb gonna change the fortunes of this team. John here in Rochester. Excel in all I gotta tell you. Which already. From what I could -- that the game. The diplomatic car -- lately every night I did an outstanding. Now. I want and I can't figure out you want -- partly terrible. Plot or putting. Yes he was and it was nothing to really. Put on the highlight real let's say that. I expect apple ethernet. In the end of this year haven't -- in the park like -- here will it. You you don't hesitate either -- optic. That BP here at each -- -- -- -- What -- -- an opening. Political or collateral. Creek because it looked a little instability in Dallas and. Well for for those for those who didn't see it who didn't see on TV a lot of people didn't for those who were not at the game. Leodis McKelvin in what -- referring to is the last punt of the game. Where the bills are getting the ball back with a minute left you standing at his own ten it was a -- that had a lot of room a lot of space between him and the defenders in the gunners coming down. He caught the ball well but he seemed to just stand still and try to dance instead getting up field now John I don't know of any of that had to deal with his injury trying to protect himself I mean they were a little thin. At that point you don't wanna put CJ Spiller back they're necessarily. If you're gonna use of a lot of the next drive but I'll say that. The next drive got to be a passing drive so why not put Spiller back there. Well you you you could be an injury. And we needed a big return and a -- outlook block it accurately the other -- down does that -- typical of the net a lot to overcome. Forty fights back and lateral it to work put. John I know your big -- where are you for the last four games here. Less. Less I enforce our. I think I think ago I -- thank. That that they got a picture of what he the next early in an illegal and you know that the -- bundle England as a motivation. I really think the bill and the next week and I'll play a lot -- I like. -- that there's team considering knee injury the way the players are pumped through all in recent weeks and Eric -- The -- and he did just that judge I got her I got more calls but I want to thank them I think because -- address that broke. No problems and listen John I know the -- big fan I know you the policy for a long time your hearts and a mamet I gotta tell you. They're not win the next three games. -- -- -- infected this way Tom I'd say that this team's gonna board a plane and a lot to the West Coast the play is -- Diego team who may be actually trying to. Play a little harder for their coach and fight for him a little bit. After it looks like he's gonna probably get fired I don't see it. They they they haven't. I would say there's much more chance of this team losing their last four then winning their next three let's go out to what are we got here Kelly. Cali what's on your mind tonight. I think it is circumstantial and -- and went on while watch employee stole an original plate plate. And -- the difference -- club or forward to. Because of the emotion because he didn't do anything in the stat -- obviously. -- -- output it restrict adult we brought our players make -- they're placed on these trips. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I takes like Kelly listen. You appoint anybody and the defense going down and saying it was a big deal and how it hurt. Williams is much more important and I know that he wasn't showing up a lot of -- that -- either because he was hurt but. I agree that Shawne Merriman Giroux a couple double teams here and there but that I was. He he was not helping this team when he went when he was in there and then the other first game when he was out was I believe the Washington -- if I'm correct. Think it was the Washington game and had ten sacks and put things together and had to work different parts. This -- and in the seams and Shawne Merriman went out. About -- would call up Fred Jackson. I'll buy that. Trevor in the -- -- on the post game show yeah go ahead. You wouldn't donate territory. I just there are going to be brief and got a question I just did not understand it back -- last drive whereas the -- broke down we've only got in touch tablet just. Ever and I I just didn't think that the back to any concept of the clock management factor here. Too many short patent and too long in the huddle in addition to going out no huddle personally in my opinion -- just want to get you up and I just thought I would think that the scheme and just I don't know frustrate. Thanks -- fair point very fair point I set myself I thought the same thing watching it I did watch the game I say that. You'll -- did you get out there you have to have more of a sense of urgency. Now -- and -- counter to that was well if you don't score you're going to give yourself -- chance you better make sure that you have the right things in place to score in that situation. But I would Trevor you got to show more a sense of urgency here. You gotta get it out of the huddle quicker you gotta go no huddle. Mean that's that's four minute offense time they were now running even -- a form an office let alone to. Portman offense means get out get the pace up. Pick it up a little that you don't have to have a necessarily no huddle but you better quick -- in -- I didn't think they did I agree I thought the timing and it was pork but again. There's a lot of things look to from the start of this game until that point. That we can point to in this game. My focus on the big picture overall today -- call 8030550. -- out of touch this is all we've built post game show. Mac -- got sports taking your calls here and to BGR Sports Radio by fifty. -- I thought that was a key point in this game. Right it's Patrick scrambling around as the right call to go for that situation. Confining letting anybody -- ultimately sacked and fumbled. Right it's -- winds up in this 129 of 46 for 288. Yards he was sacked that one time. For six yards actually I don't think that was touted as the second that was a fumble he did throw a touchdown pass obviously Stevie Johnson is quarterback ready today. 88 point zero talk about GO polian built post game show here on WGR. The Twitter is open act sell sports thanks for the follow thanks for the tweets and also thinks the tax at 55550. One coming in which says cannot judge -- -- injuries disappointing. And wish they can overcome hope for one more year to get mortality improve depth. Less injuries next year and I believe we make the playoffs luck. You know the definition of insanity is Dave. What the definition of insanity you know that. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting the same results. So dozen more so called me and say they call these people once and we all are right herbal even if we believe. 8030550. -- -- there. Join me and every one day. Let's go out to Chris in South Carolina -- -- join us online chorus. And no problem I just wanna call and I actually got to watch the game down here so. You know what I thought the key point and you mentioned literally what that Scott Chandler formal that they I was so confused about three guys wrap him up and optical fine. And the ultimate cooked up didn't there was no -- and also -- guy comes in crack them in the back he fumbled the ball. And you know not only do we lose it into big momentum change got Chandler hurt and especially what we needed on the in the red zone. You know what the hearken back to last year when the same thing happened to Shawn Nelson at Baltimore and they held them up and Ray Lewis stripped it. You know you then you watch another game where that's called stopping for progress and I'm not blaming anything on the officials but I'll say the inconsistency. Of things like that just really irks me -- Yeah I know I know I got the same thing it just it can't keep blaming the game on -- -- -- -- just. It's Obama's comment and a few other quick thing it is the end of the game that second last drive. Holy -- they do remind me of -- picture on days that the clock management and why we called timeout on third and one and then just -- QB sneak it. That made no sense to me why would we just on the QB sneak right off of that happen you know try to catch him off guard their lives I just -- All right Chris O'Brien hey thanks a picks -- -- either on the app or online which are we're doing that because you can do that the media are by that we do have an -- online so you can check that out. Taking on your phone listen to us wherever you are Steve what is up. -- -- it's brought back with the bills consider offering built over the world. Well they did offer him the job last year or two years ago I should say before they hired -- -- he turned them down now granted granted. At the time none of us knew that his wife was sick -- she eventually passed away from breast cancer. But I don't see any reason why he would wanna come to buffalo right now. Full control that they. He's got to -- You really think don't let let me ask you this. Let's say that -- okay let's just go with -- -- -- -- for a second as -- offer -- our the world he except becomes what changes does this does everything change here is bill how are gonna build disorganization and to achieve major contender right away. You know he knows more -- to move the car -- we have in our -- now. -- -- -- What was the problem tell under the from the people picking the Taliban. But telling him that detail and are looking that is. Of results aren't -- scouts. Okay well Steve -- hours a a terrific coach. He does have a Super Bowl ring he's not coming to buffalo. So we need to stop being fantasyland. In deal with reality. What's got to happen over the next few weeks what's got to happen between now and next year I'm looking at big picture I'm not point of view. In most of you are listening are like this because you're listening so therefore I know that you care. But a lot of people I've heard it over the last ten years I'm done with this team I'm not -- merchandise that's fine if that's what you -- I don't do that. I'm not like that I'm gonna continue to watch every I'm gonna watch next week at a -- a week after on the watch that we. And you know what I'm gonna watch the critical lie and analyze and come here -- talk about the game with you. And the talk about the issues the positives and negatives negatives with you and I'm also gonna root for them because -- -- And I want them to where I want to know what a championship at some point. They need to. We need I need we all the right. So I wanna know then what -- that would disorganization. Between now in the end the end of this year and then through the offseason to get better because. We can make an argument right here and I can and I just did a little while ago. That this team is actually regressed since this point last year they regressed. Now do you -- factor in the injuries to word and the injury to Fred Jackson say no that's not the case look at that okay. But at this point last year. They're actually. On the upward swing of playing football right now there on the -- -- rot in buffalo go ahead run your and a media. Bill I really want to see complete overhaul -- but right now I at least one of Georgia where is going to help. And change and if I'm Chan Gailey the first thing element you know first start and -- tell them which won a seat. You'll -- blitz packages you wanna see guys -- quarterback you've not seen him week after week after week after week. He got a defensive tackle 294. Pounds playing outside linebacker are you kidding me what about the malts. Let the guy had in each also promised last year last year let the guy play. Now we -- may have been a different game you can play. Whether that game he shot. The problem is that defensive scheme is terrible no one can prosper and defend this game we need to scrap the coach right away that's what our policy. All right thanks a lot -- I'm with yeah I'm with -- I I. Am done with George Edwards as a defensive coordinator. I hate seeing people lose jobs in any business which you know what this is a bottom line business this business about getting production. And the calls and I've seen this year the schemes and I seen the personnel I've seen a certain situations. I'm done with that. Now I know Chris Johnson had a buck ninety last week he started to get -- Chris Johnson has not had a great year. And he was really afraid that at one point and I thought Chris Johnson was gonna run for 300 yards. Yes the personnel has to be shifted -- recent changes but let's look at some of the guys -- they got rid of last year. And the guys they brought it on this defense. I mean really that the main guys that are gone from last year's defense Donte Whitner Paul Posluszny. Aaron Maybin and then now because of injuries Williams -- -- down to about guys who left the team who are here. Mean Nick Barnett the guy came in they brought some rookies and AJ Williams. -- how everyone is what you every wanna call on. I know the George Wilson -- But things do need change in that side of the ball I agree wholeheartedly with -- -- By the way only -- what fifteen minutes for someone say they wanna see that change I thought that would be the first call it out of the gate Mike you're in buffalo and you're on the -- belt post game show. They're running right. I like this is like this is like Buffalo Bills anonymous I -- he's like I -- Also -- robots out cap companies -- -- Boca what does this to say about OK now. Because we have injuries. Does that mean to team has shut down. Okay that's why you have. Draft choices we agencies. Okay. I think debt -- not -- up to serve. That would have it was stormy year. Condemning these things -- no that doesn't mean the advocate has -- that really injuries but I haven't -- I'm gonna what the reserves. One wild about seeing everybody wanna a brand or injuries did not think that the culture and edit they're going to be a couple. But look at all oh so they vote on oh -- I'm. He might might -- the first of all not everybody is blaming injuries only a few people are so hold on. I think you are correct I agree would you and I think a lot of people do agree the -- underestimate how many people agree with you but I will say this. Don't you think at some point though that they don't have the talent at the depth in the -- to step in for those guys when they get hurt I mean. Let's face it they don't have somebody of Kyle Williams caliber to fill in for him. When he gets hurt. CJ Spiller is not Fred Jackson yet in his career I don't know he ever will be the don't have that talent. Nobody nobody is as good as -- what he's one of the best in the business so yes injuries are a factor but I'll say this and I agree with you. You got to step up but Mike. Who have a step up. Whose whose whose fault is that is the question right. -- management and you know I think about what we have. Flash as created this ego. Edit it its its its its talent evaluation and it's also money Mike and I got to go and we all know that that's also part of it right we all know that. So -- sure it look at here's the thing. You can't say injuries do not causing you get that injuries are the full cost of -- there's got to be a middle of course there's some culpability here. That the injuries are part of the issue. But who's filling in those guys and why are those the guys filling -- Well that's what the question is are those guys just not being coached up right I can't believe that. Is it because they're not willing to pay to get the -- sure I think we've seen that this town and with this franchise. They make bad decisions on draft day US that's also part of it. It's all one big. Snowball. Rolling downhill. Even though there's no snow in buffalo to big snowball gasp or we go oh GM Europe next. I'll maybe you can elaborate this -- -- LP contributed and that's secondary. These guys took in twenty yards or more receiver. Or running back and that won't start in third shutout ball there. These guys aren't aren't secure wouldn't. What are you know like Margaret he's a solid execution. Well that that what you're saying though that but but let's face it Jim what you're saying is it's in scheme because they are not playing up on the receivers are not playing warming and a man. The bills don't play that style generally. So what you're pointing to isn't X -- should it scheme. Right well let it seems like every game these guys are I'm person -- -- of the -- yeah he's. Ever gotten out here like checks and somebody else irrelevant and that secondary cult circular. All right thanks a lot Jim look. I party said that Marty says it wants on this program I am all for a change on the defensive side of the ball. OK with that even people say just put Dave Wannstedt and -- right he's there to you about -- -- fine maybe that makes a difference. Maybe that maybe. But you know maybe you need another set of -- Besides Chan -- -- really busy with the offense by the way let's remember that. He's not really coaching up the defense all that much that's why he has two guys over there who are basically bowl defensive coordinators. Georgette where they wants that. So fire Edwards bring -- wants that just elevate them I don't know that changes anything. How about just going with a new direction on the defense in bringing someone in. Who would give you a fresh mind a fresh set of eyes some fresh thoughts on how to do things on defense maybe that would help. Lot going on a lot going wrong a lot has gone wrong with this team. -- how it got sports the Green Bay Packers -- mentally about it and a dog -- right out of state undefeated. The Indianapolis Colts still winless -- got that as well I have more coming your way at this after -- top the hour break at the bottom of the hour it's the game was -- Detroit in New Orleans ready here at WGR -- -- the -- about postage. Ali about post game show I'm south of watch -- right here at WGR Sports Radio 550 debut can't have producing. Met cal was sports you just heard his voice tell you would've -- about. The Green Bay Packers the dog play that they are in right now 2827. Ball game. -- against the New York Giants are actually leading the giants it's getting late I'll keep you updated as we go on of course as I always do before this program ends later on. Before the bottom of the hour I'll give you stats from this game as well stats around the league for all of you -- geeks out there but many of view that's liable for the season is to look forward to your fantasy team. Maybe they're making the playoffs because the Buffalo Bills certainly -- After today's 23. To seventeen loss. To the Tennessee Titans. We're talking right now about what needs to happen. Over the next four games for you. Or into next season or are you just done with it. I would assume that you're listening to this program your. A Buffalo Bills fan or a football three and you like sports you like the bills. So I would assume most of you are just gonna throw your hands up and say I'm done within I won't watch his team forever again. That's second haven't I'm not going to do that I've never been like that I won't be like that. I want to -- to win I'm at the end of the team. -- -- series changes need to be made somewhere along the line and I still processing after this one at how this team could regress. Could -- grass from last year at this time last year at this time. They were in the middle of going four and four to end the season after starting a -- there was some promising signs headed 2011. What IC promising right now at -- 2012. I don't know I can find anything. Other -- and they'll get healthy but those -- the unpredictable in the NFL the injuries. The phone line is open 8030 byte hit the text line is open at 530 by fifty lock to get Tex coming -- thank you very much of course you can tweet me at -- sports I do appreciate the follow. Are we have. I don't know who's this online one day can you tell me the name from Syracuse. OK Brent thanks Brent forgive a call. I think we don't like this. Other than that actually I represent my district here and your -- and -- And we we have a complex we're just -- -- -- topic try to -- I'm glad I apologetic call and but you know I think the debate promise your code in. Is it not even the players that it's just it just come dollar coaching. Come on tell the valuation I'm sure everybody remembers immediately thought that about now we're trying to work our challenge Begin the year last year. Yeah that would spell let's take a look at they think that we're evaluated. Well hold up under their brand we'll quickly and I'm not saying your wrong but my perception of that was different I thought. He started -- and marsh on out of loyalty but wanted his guys he eventually I really believe that -- go ahead your -- still valid. Okay like -- agree to immediately I'll bet -- bit -- that appointing your. But I mean just let's take a look at this year we wanted to start seagate or product project and an inept front complaint. We started projections and that travelled down the road we return to work with the right. -- but take a look at that and -- The players out leaking or even not use them effectively all of -- Really I am now he can get wired object where it can -- -- a really -- look at the number player with a black all our challenge now. -- an -- career. But you know what. It comes down to coaching and we could take a look around you would it take a look at other teams that probably the same equal lot of talent. If the bill and how they're waiting to take a look at the year giant always the underdogs always he always could come from behind guys plain talking to winning. It should come on the -- you want to dot -- great place -- -- I don't know what you think about itself but I like your show and keep. You are gonna. A lot their Brent thank you Chan Gailey basically took the fall on this one and said that. This comes down to fundamentals while any time a coach blames fundamentals that falls back on the coach. Because of the -- that the simple things that the simple things are being done right they're not being taught correctly. And I don't mean by lining up correctly I think those are things you -- at a young age how to run fit in your scheme. How to -- block a certain guy a certain way in a certain play those are the fundamentals he's talking about. It's not necessarily putting your left foot in front of your right. But when someone says it's all coaching as -- justice. What do you mean by that -- being gained a coaching I think that. Lost amongst it's always coaching or is coaching which a lot of times it is but lost -- that with audiences. We only see what happens on Sundays coaching is seven days a week. Are they now being coached from Monday through Saturday correctly is the game plan that good or do they feel on Sundays as coaches. Is it all combination able. Around -- -- up this year. In press conferences in watching and listening in body language in understanding him. And I'm just gonna tell you that I think this guy knows what he's doing I really deal. Does he make mistakes absolutely is he perfect no. But I think that he's the best coach this team has had. Over the last three or four since that sense. Wade Phillips left. I don't think he has a lot to work with but I also think it. He has made mistakes as bridges set as -- I think the marsh the CJ Spiller went to great point but that's organizational. The point and that is. You know this organization want CJ Spiller to be the starter they -- them there's no involved there's money involved. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that this organization wants CJ Spiller to beat the number one guy. What do they -- -- or not they want CJ to work out long term. And they wanted to take over that spot and show this and he could be a local -- we took a guy seat we took that guy that was our call because they're getting hammered on that right now. Butch in the size and weight -- quite a while which I appreciate your on the -- and -- post game show. They did pretty neat to have good mud couldn't -- You know disliked this man didn't need the lexicon. One has only been two years. Demanding they have inherited football team that he had actually evaluate one -- with the head. Think that he's been try to rebuild it this is you know we get kind of little. They're not happy we won a few games in the beginning years and people talking playoffs and things early. You know what I live like it'll get a caller before me about five calls back. Who stated about young players in stated by the Pittsburgh Steelers -- wanted. The Steelers defense with that Google has its key so any type injury to take place of the young players can step up in the same scheme -- -- successful. We already know that on our deepest side of the ball been asking -- is now working. And so therefore now we can evaluate yet in this he'd blow it up. And then goes back up a lot of the young players but for the last four games of this season. I wanna see these just to riders -- one that he did this Thursday. How like here's you know play at the same time the mind up election goes out. Is that what we really don't know might never had anything with the exception here would we don't have good climate. If we have some good offensive -- you'll see more holes opened up and file as far as -- -- it is still there will be the start of next year. When the people like it knocked out have a good evening I enjoy your show. Thanks a lot much. So butch is more in the camp of luck. We're put the cart before the horse anyway here we got ahead of ourselves by winning games in the expectations in the bar was raised by doing that. Because it wasn't that good of a team to Begin with. In this was a process. But because they won some games we all sped up the process. Oh boy I'd like to go there I what the -- enemy wants to go there butch but I just don't know I can't because. I think they did have the talent to play with those teams. And I know that they suffered some injuries. Good one -- line I actually agree that the wind is not really made up of pro bowlers in terrifically talented players. But that -- and really comes -- one thing that she really has done for this team. He's really turned the profits around pretty quickly because of his style of play he's put in the position. You know if she really wasn't. The guy running offense. Incredibly where this offense would be because I actually think that's on the I'll give him credit for the whole year all the -- The last few weeks obviously. With Stanton withstanding that they've been bad. The run game we've always searching Gailey knows the run game but also the pass protection. I heard a -- -- -- -- when he took the job and he said and -- issuer name is Steve Spurrier always start to pass protection that's pretty funny but he's right. He's put these guys a position to make sure that they could be they could do while offensively the problem was he never. Made the proper. Adjustments are fine tuning or whatever you wanna call scheme wise personnel wise once other teams caught up to him in that regard. -- all out in Cincinnati Ohio what's up Todd. -- -- Eight you might talk we go well. We need -- They send it don't hit the ball eight yards and -- later that night. I and the well at all because he did -- is the primary time. On the when they need -- -- -- it wouldn't matter you know that -- -- you know we couldn't get a yard and I thought -- great call and. Yeah -- know what I. I don't normally like it but it worked so good good for them. A look at. And you know it awful drop after the failure we had the game knowing that they'll be -- layup on it over now and then. Thanks -- listen to this. Yeah I know that receivers dropped passes and we have some more today there's a more drops today Renee and Roosevelt dropped one -- his hands right. What about the -- drop interceptions this year. DBs have dropped clear interceptions this year and I understand that's why they play defense -- that's why they're not -- errors. That's like George also was quick look at. That's so cliches. Did your NFL defensive back at you got to make those plays once in -- there were some big ones today. And that one that Williams dropped me he he should come up with that. Those are fundamentals as well those are the fundamentals. The chance talking about. Bob all the way up. In -- Canada Ontario what's up Bob. -- -- I a little bit quicker too many people talking about it but I think quarterback is. Real serious problem that -- up well. And I think until they get that X I think we're Ali just gonna be. I eight win team I but I don't hear people and that I get. We get behind in the game -- actor can't dropped out over twenty yards you get a job in this league it's about scoring. And it I just find that that not being an issue with this team from other people around I guess what is your opinion on that. Okay Bob thanks a lot listen first -- you're not the only one I've heard many people on this radio station maybe you haven't heard them there are many people who said the same thing called up. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the starter on this team next year improbably the after that but at least for next year there's no doubt about that. Even it. For many of you want the bills to draft a quarterback -- next year let's say. They really do finished with five or six wins get in the top ten of the draft and there's somebody like a Barkley said narrow Landry and they grab. Let's just say it happens for a second. -- are -- calling for that got -- start he's not going to start folks. They paid Ryan Fitzpatrick to be the starter and they're going to get that out of -- they're going to get money out of so you're looking at another couple years project if you believe he's not the guy in that regard. So that being said I would much rather. I think right the tragic and when I honestly I think he's -- demonstrate he can win. -- -- championship I don't know he can win though he's won games. But that being said. I would much rather use that pick and getting things that they need a much more just the thing. Do you believe that private Patrick is not the answer quarterback how can anyone possibly believe. He's like the biggest concern. Did you not watch. That run defense today have you not seen the pass rush all year. Those are bigger concerns on this team. Far bigger. Jamal from Tennessee gas. So now why the bills get themselves away by the themselves away from speller in the second half. Good question. The only answer I can come up with is after the Chandler fumble. And then the titans got the ball. In the second half their second possession they drove down got a touchdown and went up two scores the bill started pressing. They started throwing the ball in the second half in the second half -- is the -- three carries for three arts. And he looked all pro in the first half that forty yard run take it away which was had eaten then borderline hold call I thought I MacIntyre. But I understand why they call it that wrapped him -- probably did look like a clear cut hold. You -- great. The second half three carries for three arts. Okay we're gonna run through some of the other stats today in this game. Where to run through some other stats now give you all the numbers. Let's start off with the individual passing numbers. Right -- Patrick. 29 of 46 to order 88 yards one touchdown. Matt Hasselbeck sixteen of 2540. Yards to inject new great job is really not that -- zero touchdowns or interceptions but obviously Chris Johnson CJ two K went off. 23 attempts 153 -- he actually had over a hundred in the first half. In the second half the -- kind of kept a more in check. But he still had two touchdowns to go along with that CJ Spiller they just said fourteen carries 83 yards total on the day. Brad Smith was the most targeted bills receiver he had the most catches too big catches by -- way to bill that's out this 17 catches 72 yards. The only touchdown for the Buffalo Bills on the receiving end came from Stevie Johnson. He caught five balls for 52 yards and after the play after the touchdown he put his head down and. Mocking -- -- -- in -- went to the referee had just handed him the ball. And Darius Williams four catches 62 yards. Washington four catches forty yards. Not a big day on the receiving end for the Tennessee Titans obviously. The bills did have a big turn over this game and that that fumble by Scott Jim that was their only one obviously they also lost another fumble that Ryan Fitzpatrick fumbled on fourth down. The bills did not take the ball away from Tennessee Titans and it was a big deal today. You know. You can't -- if you -- if it's a close game and you give the ball away twice you don't take away you're not going to win. Total net yards -- -- teams. The bills with 379. The titans with 317 but some people want to -- the -- is the only thing that matters it's not it's a combination -- matter so to turn over time they got turnovers I think there are huge key. But if you doubt gave a team by sixty yards but you give them two more turnovers and they give you -- your chances are gut. Bill that did doubt get a job on third down defense today. The whenever the exact numbers -- I know that the are hearing a third down efficiency only 211 for Tennessee for 18%. Those were seven of sixteen for 44% if you took this stat sheet and this stat line. You went down the list. You actually believe the Buffalo Bills may have won this football but they didn't why the difference was big plays that were made and turn -- Those with a different Tuesday. So the final score on this one the Buffalo Bills lose to the Tennessee Titans at home game that most of Western New York. Did not see Alicia went out to the Ralph were found a way that you weren't supposed to find. 23 to seventy of the bills dropped to five and seven. -- let's take a look at the scores in the National Football League going around the league are giving it all you people who play fantasy football like me. Here's some interest thing. Names numbers scorers. Stats from today Kansas City a big win over Chicago ten to three boy without -- they are such a different team. This was Palin -- against Tyler -- go. A big big game on CBS the -- there are billing that up it was like. Twice in -- was like Ali and Frazier right hey logo now and really. Anyone 333. Interceptions. No touchdowns I'll go 157 a touchdown no interceptions. Orton do come off the bench for kids that broke -- against his former team -- was over one. Houston a big win like I said they're gonna win yesterday in my three dogs race elections could believe they were getting points even with TJ to quarterback 1710 over Atlanta. And speaking of TJ 888 yards and a touchdown -- Foster buck eleven on the ground with a touchdown. The Houston Texans what -- great defense -- Michael Turner to 44 yards rushing. Big win by the Miami Dolphins -- reminds me the bills last year there and the upward swing right now the way they're playing. 3414 over -- to Bush's in this one Reggie for Miami hundred yards one touchdown. Michael Bush his longest run to it was three yards for -- -- eighteen total yards. Pittsburgh smack down a Cincinnati making a statement they are playing very good football right now. Big -- 176 and two touchdowns through the air Rashard Mendenhall sixty yards rushing list and two touchdowns -- eighty Dalton. 235. Yards passing. But AJ Green at 87 of those this kid is good he had six catches 87 yards and a touchdown Carolina. 38 to nineteen over Tampa -- -- -- Newton. Known as Cam Newton. 204 yards passing to touch them up this. 54 yards rushing and three touchdowns on the ground for camp today won a monster game he had been as he lies. For Tampa Josh Johnson gets the start. At quarterback for Josh Freeman he is Marshall which is cousin by the way to 29 passing a touchdown and an interception they lose. 3819 to Carolina who only has one less loss of the bills right now -- by the way the jets. They were down mostly gave McCain back in one -- 3490 over Washington suggest a buck 65 and a touchdown Shawn Green three touchdown runs in this one. Rex Grossman threw the ball 46 times and yet did not get into the end zone through the air. -- Tebow again does it again this time a little different fashion. 3532 is Broncos went up this he gets the ball back with 306 left at his own -- -- Drives down 52 yards Prater kicked a 46 yard field -- -- were down three point that tied the game. Christian Ponder and the next possession throws an interception is on fifteen. The rocket or set up they kick a field goal to win it ponder winds up with 381. Three touchdowns and two interceptions Percy -- and 156. Yards receiving eight catches to touchdowns Tim Tebow throwing yet. Ten to 15202. Yards two touchdowns a 144. Of those to the -- is Thomas. Two TDs by the way by him as well. Tebow for rushes for thirteen yards you know you actually gave knowing that a bit of a game when it was all said and done. They want a losing 31 it's when he -- the patriots Tom Brady to 832 touchdowns Welker at eleven for 114. Did or -- -- this that like Purdue are lost it to the quarterback for Indy. Thirty of 37. For 3532. Touchdowns and interception in a Graham and your fantasy team for the waiver wire down the stretch that's crazy if he can't. I don't think that doing a -- to set up to a championship allowing the -- thirty of 37 for 353. -- gusts -- had nine catches 130 yards and two touchdowns. And the late games Green -- still up 2827 over the giants 346 remaining. The Packers think he's there gonna be up eight after this extra point -- that's going to be 3527. San -- shut out Saint Louis 26 to nothing Arizona in overtime. -- the Dallas Cowboys nineteen to thirteen. Baltimore over Cleveland Swanee Puerto ten thanks a lot to Matt -- who had sports fix what they be given a great job producing. Up next Detroit New Orleans Sunday night but alright -- WGR adds up about GO.