Mr. Sullivan argued that. Great. -- low. So explain what I should make of this. Well. It's fascinating -- though that's a great word but I think he is fascination about people and it's great for sports. It's for the great -- it's it's -- to polarizing guy with such magnetic. You know a magnetic personality and a winning personality. That flies in the face of this sport which is all about you know it's -- football mentality. And it's it's that the the one -- win and when that game and that way. -- it just makes while. What's more more oil football not what the bill also delighted to people here at. But I accept there yes they -- With the TV and it was great promise and you know it also you know at all who's coaching and I -- -- given his coat is a lot of credit and it was really. But it is a gamble by -- -- considered the greatest defensive coordinator ever. Playing at that again and now upgraded that the guy who looked all pretty much to do the greatest defensive coordinator. Every -- 74 years old and keep ball and it's five on for three weeks goes out to make and throws. When the game and put them on over time it's it's just great stuff but I thought questions about people and it added that it puzzling to some extent. How he could play that way but it was a direct result. What other he was doing great what they seem not a stretch he couldn't he couldn't receive -- at one point two -- over twenty yards allowed three weeks. -- -- on the complete balls. This -- analog to forty happened all year. It's 40. Or is great what an iPod. -- used to it's a mine numbers solid but I'm gonna tweak a little bit because I'm with you I thought they had the right strategy going -- Bring the safeties up he's not gonna be able to be too deep but he was doing it yesterday which is why. They and they didn't seem to change it seemed like say you know where's that gonna stay with this. It really keep beat us down field we're still gonna do it I'm gonna go thirty yard passes. And this according to ESPN. The Steelers gave up third passes over thirty yards completed passes of thirty yards all season they gave up six. In sixteen games. Yesterday he hit five. Thirty plus yard passes against them at some point you gotta say he's burning us we have to adjust on this and they didn't write up. The last play when the safety came up on that play in overtime. And you just don't keep it that we're getting more useful to be very active passerby on appeal in a playoff game in big that they gave that. That their game plan to Matt Ryan who has never won a playoff game and look like crap yesterday. He makes them -- so. But that's the good thing about this for us and I was group for the best story. Is predicted that the people phenomenal continue to be great to talk about. In the future date at one point they did every equal and warm up that -- the bigs are in Denver Connolly that they might homeless. So they've got eight year total yards after quarter and who looked dead in the water and restart it and people. But what I'm saying is that -- let me get this 63% property to be 55. All of the things he does and now it looks after the game maybe -- -- get a little better maybe. Given these simple watney and a man accepts that teams there are different and he can make some of those throws and they're going to and so it's very fat and -- I think the this year then quickly last week knowing what. That's part of -- Jarrett they I was gonna say. Every step of the way it's like okay well now it's it's probably gonna stop its its like watching a Cinderella run it in the college basketball tournament. But I wanted to get back in your point about coaching because to me. John Fox. One win last year in Carolina hired by Denver. Right -- the only team worse than Denver but fox deserves a lot of credit for what they do they have a player that I think even he would tell yeah. He knows has severe limitations but he's able to put in packages insistence that. For whatever way for whatever reason they work and I'm thinking that teams that played defense against Tivo. Probably get in their own head about what they have to do to stop him they played regular defense that they do against most teams he probably couldn't beat it. But instead they over coaches and the overdo what they have to do against him he can't throw -- single up outside let's not worry about safety help because he can't make throws and then it's gonna make one and somehow be you. And in no way it was a great matchup because that football and payments to be pretty much invented his own blood that exposed chances in the boot. Maybe -- situation where you didn't need to take many chances against. But. -- he did make throws. And state that there are other factors to that was a pretty. He not Pittsburgh -- and able to Tibet and the linemen they're in a game there on others that are there on out -- -- -- -- and injured quarterback. And they still almost all the game I Garrett public -- or from -- but there -- circumstances there that really. And the wounded Pittsburgh -- now they go to England on the road against the help he went on -- -- and Brady. I'd be really interesting because I don't think that Denver defense. Is as good as an interpretation and now. -- -- numbers if you look at them for the season or not that good they're nice run but I think Maria has a big they're against them again. -- how big is this story for the NFL and you can watch iPod. I didn't see most of the saints game I was at UB Saturday night I come home and you know there's three shocking and all over the place just beautiful watching this guy patches like artwork. And you know Brady and you talk about the league quarterbacks in this league tee ball. Puzzling fascinating inexplicable whatever the one word is but he certainly not textbook how well how great is this story for the National Football League. They are all about all the schools but no room when -- natural -- people put together schedules -- -- -- and wanting people. Up there you know against anyone really but -- matched up against and we cornerback will go Brady next week. They're going to be look and put those kind of active TB because of a -- That a lot of pain and lot of cap you that are unique situation here charismatic guy with one of the option. People just use can't take your article that you don't know we had it. Melt down or somehow a lot of game a game like this really elevates at the end of the year around. And it'll look to break in -- New -- but I think -- single carry over the next year and a low. And be able you know take advantage of that -- to probably sit there opened for a you know Brees or Rogers. Who global -- -- -- a tick people and so -- will pick -- now. Well. Jerry as we we've got lots things we wanna get -- has been entirely on the sabres as well. We haven't across -- today who's who's who's in the -- these days. Bomb but that's -- to the owner. -- -- And I go back and -- -- report on the front page of the Paper like -- would -- a little bit about art art art -- you're here I stand by that. And you know what. It occurred to me recently -- -- -- Larry Wednesday. That the big problem I'm not sure of who or even understand that. -- -- the one who who -- Darcy and India originally it was -- prior -- I'm you wanna re empower them when he came right back in the Alec Gallup. And that's why they're joined at the air and it seemed like he can't separate them is stuck with them at this moment so I think ability to understand that. It's really make this not Larry Quinn being there and you have to change the culture with Terry in the process. I think that's right -- I was thinking about this. Watching them and there are a lot of new players on the team but when you talk about the guys that are right at the center of it that. Are from those teams those teams that gave you know -- disappointing efforts in in. And you hear all the same old stuff it comes down to. Panic -- and bell who those two can stay as far as I'm concerned I'm I'm satisfied with them. But relate staffer -- that -- like there's just a group of players that are here that are still from that old guard. And while there's a lot of one on the theory that its new. You know if you make over a house and leave one room at the center of exactly the same it's not gonna feel that different. And that and that other other GM to put -- -- -- -- say. Are these very difficult to deal what. Don't think people normally look at him and Indians say. How come our sport guys dubbed it changed every other week -- guys have been -- fifteen years. They've been in position now longer than Bill Polian went and ended in Indian apple you'd think maybe players look at -- -- that you don't want. They you know they're really -- -- and didn't. You know try to get that to be desperate and they're fifteen years -- it is really. That desperate situation you can beat it up that. Here in one place without bail out is they're really accountability. I believe in my heart that electrical bounce the wrong. The ECB inconsistent effort on the part of the players do I think deep down they don't feel desperation. Like I am I -- word out of litany of well I might just great. Jerry I usually take the fifteen year point -- something that's an over made point but I've never heard someone say about that like the players and I think that's a very interesting thing you bring up. That if the coach likes me in the coaches safe and I'm always say. -- think that night the coach -- always. Sedate or group are up a core group I think another city. O'Brien no would be under the -- fire but -- -- equipment in the depending manner is that you can't it's all here. In black -- one game that cannot three point alcohol and -- About three called the game sprinkled by -- and apply -- -- in a -- and shut out but you go back. And number it argued of -- goal of the last two years that the way in the desert staggering. But it's distill that -- cities are. But it's start but then it goes to the rest of the so called courtroom and I am older guys coming in Aaron and it must affect them do. Sully what's what what bothers me the most is and I think you know clearly you can read blame but I'm. I still think the problem is the roster and if that's the case that it's up to your GM to make this team better. Because that the president of the sabres said the GMs not going anywhere the coach isn't going anywhere well then your only option is to make sure. The players go someplace that I read -- she's comments John -- talked to him the other -- Carolina after the game. And does the team need a shake up he was asked I wouldn't call it a shake up there's a move that makes sense -- we'll do it. If it's something that's going to improve our hockey club there's nothing imminent. As I said right now and what. -- you can't -- you can't tell me. There isn't anything out there isn't a single move or single team were single GM you can do something. To approve a hockey team that gives up too many goals and doesn't score enough goals isn't getting good goaltending has two guys that are scoring on a consistent basis. There's got to be something out there you can do to shake this hockey team up. There are an accurate period and could inspect and search and six to change -- -- -- -- for change sake that yet that's what it when when you really need to shake things up. Do some and it's his job defining need to deal there are other team there are struggling mentally and look at animal. Obviously -- times -- the top of that list will make make that you happen but you've got a guy that the you know the -- fifteen years creating a culture of of -- comfort. Also lobbed the ball players but the important thing when I want it. Who understand the debate came to -- -- need to do now is to lose I'm. And what you need to make it big deal people don't wanna deal with -- Is reluctant. That's well in one of those young players be that makes him look good. And so he's not a right got to make that deal that makes it so compounding. It's an -- -- the wrong person. And that's why when Google came to town except they're in editorial meeting said you need to bring an outside -- that helped him along. But for last year's deadline but boy he'll vote after that they do and instead it was well Perry's been like an act that way I haven't had an -- it will actually. We have never -- that -- in fort -- lost a year. -- Sullivan let us 80305 if they join us 888552. But picked -- about this -- and Jeremy for that matter over the weekend. Halfway point and you said what there exactly same point total they had last year at this time the halfway point and I was thinking about this Ali we're we're trying to forgot what's wrong -- his team and and and while the underachieving on the overrated or that all this different stuff. If you look at. Three have seasons now that half season this year bad first half season last year. Good second half season I was thinking where I went into the season thinking the second half of last year. That's -- this team it that's how they can play hockey and they're gonna follow up on that and it may be offseason pickups. Now they can maybe they maybe they just hit lightning in the bottle the new owner came and they hit a hot stretch the young goalie played out of his mind. And they just remember that and maybe their closer to the team that -- the first apple last year and -- the first happened this year. Why that happened two years to -- what does that say about your coach if you can't get that -- -- desperate coming into the street. They need to all ten points and thank. Players Lester in January 13 what happened in that situation. But that expand mutually -- that they need to be a natural sense of desperation and urgency about in the minute they walk on the -- Whatever it is the October. I -- did you need to. Jerry -- plenty of desperation I don't sense enough talent. They don't have the players to play the positions they can go -- Beatles desperate hockey if they can't. Put the puck in the net when they're in position to do it which -- off that's and that's the thing are often in position to do it but I think that drives the point home cell -- Jeremy drives the point home they're getting chances they're not getting. That they're not they're not finishing because there aren't good enough there working their putting themselves in position and then missing the net or getting stopped. They're not good enough to school and it's rare that we have a post game and -- post game show every every game one Lindy says people at saint. It's rare. That we talk about -- for the effort is -- pretty consistently there it's just consistently not good enough. Well I I see your point him in basketball and shoot 35% all period time combat shooters they're like well. Right Boeing in Europe and get so fired at -- -- people in rationalizations as. He'd be out of and it starts with a -- you know and it's like we're not getting what is that the that the outlook and a public forum I'm curious about that -- -- -- -- There's certainly pimples where they start slow and you can and can't really do believe it's Morton -- And that they're not fearful that they dip this -- an effort sport I don't think. The honest effort is there on a consistent basis pack combined -- -- all of a lack of talent and shooters. I think creates a very average team. 8030550. Seller list hey I'm gonna backtrack for a second because I forgot to bring this up we're talking about football. And you tweeted about it so solid the what to think of the -- overtime rules that still don't guarantee a possession. I think it's joke. I I never understood no net you know gonna give -- immature and except for Kutztown. And then you do then not Ukraine. Or should defer because then it and I whether they scored a sense now why why you. You know what -- just addressed the problem I I I don't the difficult problem and sudden death is in -- I've I've been in favor of over the final time. Yours for awhile. Even in the regular season I mean it's really tight anyway. And don't amount to collect an individual should help please but in the NF. I -- -- clustered outside like a time I love the shoot out ahead it was an isotope. Everyone wants a Gerri it's it's a glorified skills competition but sports is supposed to be about steel and so is not an entertainment yes I'm OK with you. The shootout and I think it you drop that did -- drop. And sting at the same number it is abandonment and hockey and football. Problem because once he kicks off the other I would advocate it ten or fifteen minutes defined overtime. Net new -- currency militants in a ten minute drive. But he seemed at all that there Warrick about you know being gone too long it's the playoffs people of this stuff. A defiant over time is the way to go don't summit because. You know you you allow you you're you're allowing for the other team to get. It yet in its appeal at all that you solve the problem middle. It seems ludicrous and that your first ever overtime with the new rules or all of the other the second game didn't get the ball yeah. And now I know yet if the people say that they -- so it shouldn't stop them. No if if -- if the problem the league had was Peyton Manning is standing on the sideline and never get to chance touched the football. It's still wouldn't have mattered if you know the other team got the touchdown on the opening drive Peyton Manning still wouldn't touch the football though. It's weird -- Jeremy brought it up last week that -- -- the whole idea of deferring and how you handle it and fourth the fourth down at the five vehicle for the touchdown instead of the feel they're a lot of things that I would think. Coaches are furious they put this rule in place because they now are more. They're on the on the on the there on the hook for more decisions and overtime but it doesn't really make sense you think about it that. We're gonna put overtime and guarantee a possession. On less the other team scores a touchdown in which case you're right back to where you where we -- net the other team -- -- though. Just I'm I don't know they need the fifteen minute period -- Just guarantee that -- that each team gets one possession you know have a big exploration thousands overtime no matter what happens each team gets the ball once. And maybe they'll they'll change again and a court that they're probably people out there complain that kick in and start too -- that the -- But there's there's better ways to do this and forget the sixty minute crowd. I think the -- -- -- -- -- one more can people but he he won the game that was a great finish for the NFL. What if what if it's Burke scores the first play of overtime people might want a little more people yeah it's lot of a lot football and it's situation. Well I don't a lot of and I -- -- awesome thank you Sally.