Yeah you know I'm not sure that's if you did or not and it's been awhile I don't think I've been honest in its. That's the -- at the -- excited about it. You know I am. Excited about it. Story and I went over their today to see buddy next -- Like buddy next to -- and I have some issues that the way does business and that carries. A great even good gentleman about like when he meets with the press and I asked him at the -- they wanted to do this more often during the season he explained that. He felt the need to be one voice during the season that was the head coaches good answer alive I -- think that the German edition find ways to be. Available once in awhile and and that helps and it. And he should compliment to some extent what's coming from the head coach. It's the channel after awhile anyway. No chance good they're both men refreshingly candid their interest -- extent that you can be can that they have to hold back somewhat but. I think buddies at that point -- XP says something that maybe goes too far -- carries 72 weeks you know. Which is elected he would GM I think he's fairly honest. Yeah I I I thought it was pretty honest about -- week we didn't they don't bother asking the same questions. But I know this morning it came up. Recruiting players to come here he he said basically something that we've said many times on the shorts it's not it's challenging to get guys to want to come here. That are on the open market would create -- That was -- -- question vote is the one doing the column for the news tomorrow night authority he hill that Lionel. But he was there and or comments we'd -- of the same sort life and when you go on that roll you want the subject. To go at the end bucket and -- answer them. You know speaks directly he didn't dance around and it was dungy knows what he's said the summer than it is an issue and the losing -- an issue and whether can be an issue and a lot of things -- -- recruiting problem. Course I of course came up came later and said money is an issue two -- -- you gonna spend the cap and he's that we can spend the cap. And they haven't been in recent years it's been up to their own cap so -- C. And keep time. In the coming months to see how much to live up to an -- and not going to amortize bonuses on our own books. Rushing to do with 22 teams -- -- don't do that and what teams don't like getting in cap jail. By pushing all that money into the future disseminate its mark on who keeps track of these things it's when he took that pretty much all do with. But those people do it this way. And don't take advantage of being able to instead of a 110 you can actually spend under and 23 if he -- You know the situation -- league -- I mean -- directed to the league does that day on their books spread out a secure thing over six years. Well -- these other things that we spend that money this year and. I -- comment at all about accounting million comes off our -- here -- that's -- nobody you know I think. I can't speak for everyone here but I think world it is certain mood about the bills with this new partnership that I myself speak for myself. I just wanted to ask myself all the questions again. I want to be open minded to why they have been as bad as they've been and what it's it's easiest you know flip at least say this or that. It's I wanna sort of just think about it all through again. And here's -- today with you and with us talking the same point about look it's not mr. Wilson will spend the money we're gonna do this yep you talk about recruiting issues -- that. Is there or is there not though. A certain backwoods. Reputation that the bills have. Whether it's the owner it in his ways or the facility. The region meet all these things put together. This is a real problem they're they're probably should be bigger reasons why the bills haven't won in so long but. How how much of a problem is all this and how true is it. I think it's a significant problem in and did. They don't get the best people running the show because the -- Apple's. And they didn't do better than -- Nixon Chan -- when it came time to review the organization and while they have virtues and native. -- some people over more -- and with me. Dating gave John Fox they didn't get Jim Harbaugh I think he's a more legitimate respected people on football right now. With a better upside to leave your organization I go back to moved to the late John Butler. Told me once that when you get together with polian and in Ferguson and -- Smith at all if he believes the laughed about what it was like to. To work for John for a ruffles that they felt liberated that's true that comes from John Butler is on -- And the more of them out there now on the -- in today's column that. Regardless of how good they were here in what capacity they were they they approve -- through that they're good it's open Gregg Williams. Great Phillips. Very fuel Kevin gill bride. Market -- one here and as a roomy and fired the Malarkey. -- eager you know you viewed -- the players this year it's in -- mean every team -- these games -- winningest. The -- the -- -- -- one earn it when his worst game. Yesterday I did so anyway. Oh I thought. I've and the feedback and I come -- expect something terrible what's your point but the point one think sometimes write a column B and I. I think that's what I would take away from that is you know yet heard fuel is having success that all the hit hit a tough year this year and he was criticized pretty harshly. Why was he getting criticized pretty harshly maybe because human urine talk or -- half the year but now they're back they're healthy and he's a genius. Just walked. You've got the -- pressures you're going to be pretty good defensive coordinator that a lot of truth to it could be. Or Paul threw him right or why and these are -- -- -- its like bills fans say they're going how come all these defense event there on the giants while we ever get one. How come we got both Spencer Johnson offensive animal and outside backer and Kelsey get six million it does get back -- personnel. And -- buddy nix asked to step up and have another good draft and go out spent some money in -- he suggested today this team could win six. Ten games ten. I think that's what he was getting at that he could see a step -- well when you insects with -- all -- injuries. If you're gonna take a step forward healthy next year you tell me ten or better. And let's hold on that but they wanna do that they can do better he's gonna do a better job in the off season of complementing supplementing his roster with reagents. Well maybe and maybe that for every defense. There's a longer conversation on offense. I wanna start here with you because Stevie Johnson I mean you being noble -- would you want him off the team. And knicks. Sounded pretty much and I'll bring it kind of mood today talking about Johnson in say it's a certainty that they will bring him back but it Churchill sounds like he wants to. A -- to assume from how strong his comments were that dailies on board and that that they like to get something done with Johnson what are your thoughts. I -- he's gone unless they franchise and you want really tackle that I don't know why maybe you didn't want. Mean I wanna show his cards and you want to tell a guy and his agent that you you're willing to give nine point five million for one year. That suggest you would think he's -- that. As as a base salary he's not port that I think he's gonna -- -- get the best offer -- -- if I'm wrong sometimes. But when players get the free agency bit. They ought to themselves in the agents certainly it's their job to get the best offer and that means 32 teams -- shout at Stevie Johnson. Maybe no doubt it thinks he's worth. That much value to balance in the way the -- 32 to push him in March. Right now. You've got you've got the window here to sign him if I'm his agent I listen in on that that would Merriman. And he. Not everything he says is is. Is genuinely honest that Merriman came here to stay here because even the India and opera and you're also in my opinion I might be wrong. Why which environments and buffalo. In his filings here for a week and while buffalo and -- so -- that. That's where I'm gonna go well I think buddy was the one was willing to invest in a broken down guy with a steroid history and throw big money -- when he might never play effectively again I don't. The answer to that you might be right -- knicks might be right -- is the one who knows them. I think though it's the giants point you're making it also Merriman. A big part of the bill's problem is just the culture in the culture extends into many areas it's it's lost its it's that. The talk about the team there is that there is too much of a familiarity with losing. And too little disappoint you make a lot I don't always agree with it. Too little is they're not too little pressure on guys. There's there's no winning atmosphere here right the New York Giants Mets and that the bills' defense events of the caliber of Justin talk in these guys of course they're not. But why is it that the giants find these guys always in the bills never do. Is it part of it that there might be an inspiration within the giants that exists because it's the New York Giants that have won Super Bowls in three straight decades and it's New York City and you'd better be good or else. Like there there's a lot working. That the bills are up against a lot of it is of their own creation but not all of it. Maybe a better scouts I came arm of the guy's name I didn't know we was he was a former guy who was in buffalo work for -- Went to the giants and was in their illness that Gabriel and maybe it. Voters are another one of those type of guys who I was thinking about for the bills GM job. And then it's just buddy nix and they don't even consider any of these guys although they did bring Whaley and it was a Whaley type. Anyway maybe have better scouts I don't know why why these guys end up on other rosters and the bills are trying to go after -- and tell us that there's nobody else out there he's the only answer. But they they've got to do a better job in New York yet there the the culture of acceptance seven and seven with the giants in 07 and this year guy's jobs on the line -- job was -- on the line all the years. He got off the hook in buffalo for -- 7877. The last seven or eight years your hero. Yeah they get to nine and six under marquis and that's the best thing we've seen. They get to seven and seven have a snow game in Cleveland one year old with a. But it's evidence -- you thought distinguished. Possible Super Bowl team -- when I was so excited to be 76. And then seven and seven and then these 79 runs. Some people are happy with them what went on and so. And we're doing what they call it gives it that another six and time again and people are optimistic or some. I want to rewrite history you know marquis got tonight at six -- -- and they lost in the quit yet and I and I don't remember anybody being happy about 79. At all in fact I remember -- we do not show up Friday before -- Cleveland game where they had you know they were in a race they need a lot of help. And they inflicted one of them finally showed up. This is going to be game the bills are a joke and ultimate downer and lost nothing and lost there last year and predictably and but. I don't think -- I don't buy this that you -- that the culture of acceptance amongst -- is in some way. Responsible. I do think it's totally irrelevant maybe it's just the organization. You think it's totally irrelevant or relevant I think the fans -- happy at all I am taking issue with the Mets don't think they're happy I I think. The fans. Are soft. Fans want a goal they like going big rope going -- could -- all they're frustrated. With the product but they want don't want it they can't stop supporting the team. I mean a lot of fans might be like that the ultimate goal even if -- plagues. Keep all. Of stop now. -- Jerry criticizes fans when their two positive. When their too happy with what relatively speaking as a mediocre result that's the point you just made. I tend to think the opposite way that we help. We I'm including myself and ourselves as fans for this point. That we help break down the psyche of our teams by. Beep -- by being too negative and I don't think I don't think workshops. For being too positive we didn't throw -- parade for Mike Malarkey he quit the bills he quit the team that added -- after nine and seven. That's the best team they've had a decade. Best record for decades I'd I'd like to see us be more. You know. I'd like at the Jerry wants us to be less of something I want us to be more of that. But that did you also want to be honest to. And fair so it all. Gets. Wrapped together. I don't know this is on I just think there's an acceptance level or standard I don't know I insure their plotting a -- to get. Upset and don't want to accept 79 but I remember those years two and there was some excitement and -- at certain points in the air. Where other showing improvement I'm just tired of that this this. The only gather on the way. And we've heard it with buddy nix these last these two years in there they're on the way in the right there head in the right direction they were. Six and 102 years ago there was six and ten this year and I don't think in New York or the mother should -- expired after two years that don't -- gear Lindy Ruff fifteen years. I understand listen this -- the thing to me I think whoever's on defending. The fans is I think were in a terrible spot. Because I think everyone Knoll is. Ownership is not what needs to be I think fans feel. And you if you if you look at -- -- that downstairs its -- in the eyes and be honest about it what are you gonna do. You're either gonna except what you get. We're you gonna walk away. And it. They don't want it may have lowered his resignation there -- -- because that choice but don't like it but I don't -- it to them. So that's the culture the culture -- Mike with about a culture within the organization more so than this thing about fans that. -- the culture of the organization. Doesn't hell hold itself to line of standard I think they -- spending one million into the three the last four years they spent significantly under their own -- the cap. So that's the culture and and now fans the FB at the game they don't think about that you get angry about it we're angry and before the season right. So maybe it goes right to -- Well that if they're talking about doing it again this year and they haven't done -- but he said this morning police are ere putting texted your WGR. They they can spend that the cap. Then they have to -- Stevie Johnson. I think -- and you don't think and Steve Jobs ultimately as the final -- is he can wait are right but. It's on the mile but he said today this is a priority we want is we need this guy. I think they've got to put the money whatever else franchise tag it's there it usually happens before and I'll.