Live that happily -- used car superstore -- show with a -- here for another hour coming up then it's Niagara. Basketball home to Loyola. We've talked a lot about sitcoms today but also plenty about Super Bowl 45 and the bill Super Bowl teams as we always do. Around this state this is the anniversary joining us now for the first time to talk about. This you've always been on the show a couple of other times usually around the -- -- radio Thon. Former bill safety and starter all for the schemes mark Kelso -- -- Bigger say -- -- circular. -- well what are ordering -- 21 anniversary of the twentieth anniversary or six. Well that was yesterday and it'll is this some. I'd be interested though. Post the details from that game are like I don't I don't have any like I don't remember any of it. Point five I could play a boat just off. Point 728 even but that that that troubled me sixes like it's like a black -- you know why wasn't Lincoln. And I don't I don't have it. I haven't -- and they came but it was a well you know nonetheless it was a it would -- a -- -- Well we Italy which I wouldn't look -- culminated today the only. You know what today is -- We're a little and I don't know what that is really put. Well he -- the twentieth anniversary opening serve the anniversary support -- it become what one expert that. I mean it was again it was a -- -- got behind early in the game and in first but. And that was -- old third term look at -- right. So I definitely don't think that people remember. Mark how often do you get asked about the Super -- the games themselves and how often do you think about them. You know what the latter question not very often I'm -- really go quick vote you up against a -- Begin to bubble up early in the right around that time and and go to -- you know sure either been true of course broadcast turbulent bills started the season but it was such start this year and into. It looked like they continue to play at that level that they might have an opportunity cracked well -- first -- It's such a long time people start talking about those things but I -- -- -- topic about throughout the night. I still you know I still cannot watch is built the last couple place because I can't spirit awards celebration ceremony. Actually gave render I felt like it'll push global. Is that I think I would say from what you're saying that you make an effort to avoid them almost like an effort to -- an effort to avoid thinking about them. As opposed to just that you just don't dwell on the past -- it is that is that right you'll you'll spend time thinking about. The winds and that the the better memories. There's no way I would pick it there's probably -- that would that apocalyptic about W those are quite -- And there -- instilled the only. Take great pride in the in in except that you hadn't in the in the market he makes you wherever platelets from just the absolute best players of all kinds of I was fortunate to be around -- A great group academy it's such a great core group and the coaching staff and everybody here but certainly when you wanna think about all the -- -- and in -- -- What effect that you want their Forte has -- not diminished. The success that you had that but I wouldn't -- it all for the for a couple victories like controlling that. Hmm that's interesting because as a fan. And certainly this is where being a competitor. And on the teams would differ from BofA because I've always said the ride like Isaac and wouldn't wanna traded. Anyone of them. Because there's just been here for those four years and being a part that it's it's the greatest -- buffalo -- -- -- in sports. Yeah public and I Makiko some of them and I appreciate it still and vivid memories come back in. In golden -- or wherever we really know where we -- going when. I'm always talk about city airport and then shall look back at square point Kyra 35000 people there at and and it was it was a great directors no question -- we hit. Erica is that that he -- they replace it with -- enthusiasm and he reached weakened. I mean our old record was off the charts I think the lord knows. Torino for years and -- there a couple of years -- lose all potentially. A tough place to play because it's wolfman and it'll break and we get great team chemistry read everybody go -- well. And we played together well and make you know people often ask that would you trade would you trade those for personal and they'll like -- felt like a -- much else. Almost certainly think I wouldn't trade for one victory and then. And district can kind of right up into the -- not be very good seeing that but it's if you so that we can -- for her. For two victories. You know I the players considers. -- that those -- -- different -- like I'm great yeah I might wanna a put to negotiate. Oh man I love trades going Korea tested its markets it's something that they came up yesterday we're talking with John Clayton from ESPN and and he said rather matter of factly that Beckett goes through. The pundits -- from the AFC game. I'm not on a Sunday got into this thinking about Norwood and in your team and in ninety. A decade goes through how much would be different in from time to time over the years I mean you look around here. People must have asked you that -- we've had a conversation on the show numerous times. What are your thoughts on -- if Beckett go through what's different for those teams moving forward. There portfolio will go for Rolex player that because that's that's what kept under alive particularly in -- -- -- -- had the opportunity that we were able to. Color -- and -- on the on the ultimate goal. We had training camp landmark -- -- -- a great man consistency where we came to training camp polling you know what you can do Andre. 28 when it was they want you see he didn't appear that strategy and and that would sit there and opening meeting -- over the summer. And it's not about what our goals or are critical district get for the big game and when -- -- And -- that drive that they've kept -- a -- of the perfect and we were able to realize that oval. And good but couldn't it was just I mean that the strategy that he had -- you know the psychology be employed -- Health policy and remember the game and take accountability from the mistakes we made the -- Formerly the new plan an Angel sent out a new poll just I just a great a great lesson persevere -- all of this that or involvement. And and I do think people who won their first game we were such a good thing that I think in 26 -- probably -- got back because it is the reverse such as. -- opening with a third year. -- it would have been difficult. And because it just the mentally exhausting to get -- that -- and that ticket if you war and look at the that -- how mentally exhausting in his. It look at it is they get what candidates and -- -- ever feel as well bill Belichick's face like that a low low current. You know he's he's usually really razor thing that you Q are you an indication that the -- the relief should feel and so accomplishment he'll just. Twelve minutes he chipped chipped in because the picture it's so that the -- the torture so that position. Illegal pick your potential opportunities -- it's it's typical of our initial Specter here. Even. Mark -- with us -- -- -- the Bulldog on WGR. Your point about. Levy and his consistency is interest thing. I'm I'm guessing though that. In the in the course of the four years during the playoffs he had to offer a different message. Because of the fact that -- -- once and then twice in the three times and I'm also wondering if the the combat game. Maybe brought it all back to life you know like here I am again I'm in the bleachers to but at halftime of the comeback game. Maybe crosses your mind like all we were due for this and we never lost at home in the playoffs and you know you you had ups and downs in that season but then you win it. And it might just like it refresh on a volatile it let's go back. And you're good you're good enough to do that but just like the confidence you you would drop from that sort of -- be bringing everything. Back to life that makes sense. Yeah yeah I noticed about the -- to me as saying there should you change things that really we -- player and -- and it it was a cute. Practically flawlessly until -- get that that game or whatever reason -- felt like we practiced. The practiced -- all four of those weeks. -- -- perfectly. Italy that we call it became so ill prepared and they'll think reach out. LA -- at a disadvantage into electorate wouldn't win games but whatever reasonably inflate. It quite well for people -- but -- you are a -- we -- the best team all four years. We certainly want the best to let on the all know that it's Palestinian. What your it was pretty darn good. Middle portion and had a really good run that -- open market -- -- tell. That there were certainly a couple of years we were in the past and it just is not a public sector capability -- -- typical Sunday. Richard you're absolutely right about the game that they think -- remembering. In Minneapolis where -- -- the locker room before going -- we trek to the they go or stay in their universe in Minnesota. Practice facility and you'll get -- -- the practice earlier in the week it was a Wednesday -- and we look ridiculous that you realize there 44 K we will -- to -- went six will be 44 -- -- late in two years. And that's something that the entire college career and he's not think physically inaccurately and I think we were Kart that third year in and -- got hurt that last game of the year. It was you know I felt like -- -- it has been a long road and kind of an -- two years and they -- in the cutlery work people -- -- close the deal. And certainly with the resurgence in the second -- electing a little. In the NBA they'll come back and we -- certainly we felt like we couldn't be beat and there in the legal Super Bowl on C character blocked punt and you know click on it will regain with a -- -- -- he's not very often the statistics weighed heavily in your Paper. And we felt like we're pretty chicken came in English freemen mystical the second quarter it was in the victory on the second quarter fourteen to seven bill. That was point eight it's it would -- slip -- directly. Why that's right I mean your community really did I I I you know that that game is remembered for both the flurry of turnovers that come later and and and how crooked that score god but -- -- when it started you know the sun was shining and it seemed like dumb you know it might it might be your -- finally. He can't and he absolutely and you know it and we felt that way that we felt like there was -- there was some destiny involved and that we. Here we kept called anchor who are gonna demonstrate perseverance will eventually we're gonna critical look spectre -- Unfortunately that that was not the case a level -- Beautiful display case for -- see him pulling out there. Space as well people say what's so that's straightforward and let it go for the warned that it would never really get. Very texting mark -- with us here on WGR -- -- -- the -- You you alluded to this before and I think most fans. Separate the super bulls the same way which is that. It'll say we -- on the giants game but. The next three. What are you gonna do. And -- you sounded like maybe you're the same way that I I do think that's most people. And you know like I respect you say you don't think about these games that much. When you do is it that but that the last three Super Bowls it's more about what are you gonna do. But the giants team is the one where you know you hear the fans talk about the details in this play and that play Mark Ingram and of course the field goal in this. Great we're -- record that I'm sorry but that's one where you could beat yourself up a little bit vs the others you you do that. You look at that way. -- -- again -- in in the some -- you know I don't really helped start think about it because I would I would disagree with that. Defense permit that it is the giant game and I do think -- and -- -- and then that but I don't think the other 32. That street. I think get a you know a few -- that the person exact article gives in and some of the the player personnel people in Washington State they thought we were thirteen and they were local they had that the fourteenth -- that your. And there you know repeal was playing really well they're they're really difficult to cut defense and elderly get turnovers and stopped -- so that there was some question I think Kinect game I think it's the first they'll gain that is there. That they may have been a little bit better team that we work. We get experience but the last the last game like that. It's you know we we epic game and took complete control and -- came out the second -- that you stitches. Think let slip that where you -- very very quick in general though couldn't we couldn't overcome that momentum swing but. But I you know I think to public to look for the I think we were aware of the -- -- early in the dark secret about it so well in game pictures. If you're going to be victorious political unfortunately you're you're not gonna come away with the world. Mark last thing and I I hope that this helps. Not to have this all feel unpleasant because I certainly respect. You know I used say that you sort of block out the Super Bowls and you know that the accomplishment is a tremendous accomplishment of making it and with with that said. You hear that we hear that all the time and I'm guessing you do to win. The subject of the Super Bowl teams comes up it's almost always. Fans talk with pride no one else ever did it. Those were great teams great players you know we totally -- in look at positively. For for the most part. I guess I'm asking do you think that team gets enough credit. -- you'll often hear people say look I don't I I -- it is but people the people have to realize those were. Were great teams and I hear that so much that I think you know it's almost. That's proof that people do think of those teams is great things. It'd be good enough credit I mean. -- him that we would have we've got a lot of credit you -- one of those Angel leash but. I think is that -- and as low as they continue to I think they're the respective. But that pinging their nose -- have garnered. Has increased speculate it's just it's such a difficult thing to do and it'll -- particularly this year freeagent you know multiple repeat earn. In the end it was there -- -- remark -- run in the certainly. -- certainly glad to be part of their -- -- ball deliberately can't secure orchestrate every. -- look so ordinary in any court as as a brick direct result side but. Difficult to put together a group because I think who has such great chemistry and complete -- -- together -- Her little you know walker currently at 22 guys I call the political fourteenth hole. Illegal and I we have I think that the guys that we have been abducted in all payment hopefully -- there will be the next one and I think we. In -- war to a comfortable on the shot at a neutral or is where I think the respect that they ordered by either abductions. I think here's has let back the respect Eric for the for the -- -- in excess air. I hadn't realized remembered until today that you retired after that. That game in Atlanta that was your last game were you planning on. There you go see we we might have been able to go back fifty years. Inches that looks like mostly the ticket holders that you're well. And -- -- up but what do you seven and nine of the next right mark thanks for. Being sporting about Elvis of course mean look. Those groups the -- the best days in bills history.