Now Childress -- Doing stuff Howard -- she'll go on WTI. Sports Radio 515. -- -- -- Checking in live from the NFL combine in Indianapolis. It is February 24 2012 Jeremy White with Brad writer was in for Howard again. Brett back for deadline day well the three yes how it'll be back it's. All out smorgasbord. Of hilarity in trades on Monday I can I ask Joseph the first question yeah short -- online. I -- a giant question is very important don't get it wrong. OK -- what is the most important thing that you learned from your conversation with Chan Gailey yesterday. The most important thing while don't have sound -- that some -- that we just heard. Very broad I didn't hear the sound bite me just I know that that's why we're asking the question what's so what wasn't Joseph he told us that the most the only thing that matters is to be a champion oh yeah -- the only thing. That's right he's a gel that Joseph the only thing that matters is to be a champion or something like that and I thought that would have been something that stuck with you. I'm probably the only thing she powers to be. There you go -- Joseph I think he was trying to give him that -- I think you try to get elected vice -- It's a matter of -- -- I've stressed to be a chip -- or about actually the biggest news to -- become -- -- -- -- is -- rock in the full -- Yeah I it was it was big in. And as soon as I thought he was sitting down with we're with John Murphy before you -- I sit down do one level with them and as soon as I saw them like they -- at this needs to be on Twitter now and so I expect quickly snapped a photo and and put the old breaking tag on it and when it went from there. That would have also been acceptable answer that the thing you learned that here premier covers or or two ago Joseph -- Well you talked to Jan yesterday I don't wanna when you sat down temperament and I don't know did you hear anything from -- were surprised to hear you know sometimes a team will give BO a little look inside. What most fans would identify receiver and defensive. Pass rush is their biggest needs and he spent some time talking about the offensive line because of Demetrius -- contract status he's freeagent they'll likely talk to him and try to get him -- done. Or maybe let him go so how likely would you say offensive line is early after talking to gaelic. Well it certainly didn't rule it out that's for sure and and you know it. If you would ask someone that you know just just watch as the team from from game to game in. And follows them through throughout the practices over the year you had you'd expect. You know there were the only one choice for that first round pick and Soviet defense -- but you know in June of Gailey said if if there's a great ones sitting there it might have to pull the trigger so. That what -- what he's especially doing right now is. Saying okay well. We're not really all that you could ever or I'll also just do it just don't rule anything out at this point and then go from there -- At. And if there was a good offensive tackle I mean it would have to be one of the top two guys because I don't think. Any guys below those two events and the -- of talking about our -- polio and Riley -- from Iowa. Is there anywhere below those two I don't think they're really worth attempts overall fixed so. -- to -- -- giving giving himself an out clause just in case the negotiations with the Demetrius spells don't work out. And and in it was kind of interesting what what he had to say about prepares to. He said. He thinks he might be able to be a finished product but he doesn't know he's not sure yeah. And you usually don't hear a coach talked about -- guys like that so. It it it it it it was an interesting conversation learned a lot about the offensive lineman especially. One other thing about. In terms of listening and hearing hearing -- Gailey said -- He also talked about Stevie and he talked about the creatures spells -- Stevie Stanford he said he didn't wanna be in their for the meetings and then there was something else he said but I thought was. I don't know I it was it was troubling to me he said whatever two years ago nobody who is new Stevie Johnson wants the other is delicate every day evolving thing. How optimistic are you it sounded to me like. He might not be optimistic you might maybe it's a coping mechanism at -- think he's he's really preparing himself for Steven B -- Yeah a little bit I think I think that was the quote you're talking about. He Pacific comes to that will adjust and do we have to do nobody knew Steve was two years ago so we -- found ways to incorporate him. What it does best and -- he's not there than than what strategies they've been the Leo so the if they get a little bit of a coping mechanism because. It is Stevie was. Really they're. Their offense in terms of the passing game the past couple years -- -- the most consistent one. He's been the first. Bills receiver to have back to back 1000 years list which I still think is the crazy considering who they have the receiver position throughout the past forty or so years and and so. I think he is trying to cope with bitten and it it's going to be a need they're gonna have to address either through free agency or the draft my guess would be free agency more so the draft and and then and then go from -- but. Yes Stevie Johnson today's the day for for those two it is today at the day that he he is meeting with buddy -- in the bills and and that will be a pivotal day as to whether or not Stevie Johnson will ultimately recited buffalo. You know I think there are you -- receivers in the league and I think -- I think there's everyone else. And I think the bills think that too so to hear Chan -- say that isn't that surprising considering this is the team that. Prior to last seasons that were OK with everybody else let chip out Lee Evans right I mean it's an overall philosophy that shouldn't. Surprises at this point. Yeah I it is it's it should because. It is it just the way this situation has been -- you can kind of tell that. And that they don't view Stevie has Alito and I wouldn't necessarily put him in and elite category I think he's somewhere between the eleventh and twentieth best receiver in the league and should be. Paid appropriately but. But the bills want to number one receiver. And do they think she's -- number one guy hit me in if if there as far apart as people are saying then that obviously that hasn't that is the case so. It it it it should be interesting to see. The what what ends up happening today because talks could completely break don't have after after this after this meeting -- If if the bills don't make. As good an offer is STV's campus. Willing to willing to see out there are at least have a negotiating point was. Jobless guy alive on line from Indianapolis at the come by Joseph another name that's being tossed around for draft helped Courtney Upshaw. I heard a lot about him and from what we hear the bills might be next to him what kind of player is he enough how -- the position of need is what -- brings. Well he yet Alabama it was a 34 outside linebacker rather than I mean he did what he's his hand on the ground and play 43 defense then from time to time but. But for the most part he was a 34 outside linebacker is a little bit below six. Six to it in the end you know but he has a good good side with 275280. Pounds. He's he's he's just a guy that is very very good against the run he's not. He's not the best pass rusher in the draft but. He's very good against the run and I think I think the fans that. That really want Courtney Upshaw are never by the fact that he plays in Alabama more than more than anything. He's he's he's someone that was a teammate of ourselves targets and have people around here really like -- -- because he brought a lot to the table last year but. -- you know it them might not be the same case for Stevie might not be the best pass rusher in the draft so it's so there I think there are some. Some more. I guess they're better pass rushing options. If they were to go that route -- that the tenth overall pick but. And if they were to pick up your it wouldn't be any such -- -- -- -- solid it's ironic I -- yes six states sexier I think. Breaking news -- this is going to be big news that the come by the NFL draft coin flips have -- X acute it. Oh boy how are we have our winners that built the bills picked tenth the okay affair Miami and in Carolina head of global coin. Miami wins though that for the Miami takes eight Carolina ninth Kansas City wins the coin -- to -- eleventh Seattle's twelfth. So now we have the teams that are picking around the bills slotted in Miami Carolina buffalo Kansas City CO that's the and now Andrew Luck -- -- on what. EBay because because that might be a spot or the third quarterback goes in the draft a good. If you get a chance to talk to the winners of the pointless find out what the strategy was going into. And if you call it or they assign. I die in my eyes and I pictured in a restaurant like the Friday Night Lights movie -- flip between Miami and Carolina and since dolphins have -- dolphins and details right I would think so they actually they don't have the ability part about -- -- and based Scots to hate them typical boy and so that's probably end up. Determining that's that's the new policy Axel that's a that's like -- an -- we. And -- that than -- otherwise I'd thanks ago. But it -- I'd -- -- and its outcome might.