One of the top sports and modified races in western -- all of last season driving for -- motor sports done Terry Waite park -- is on the line Bobbie what's up. But what I don't at first off congratulations a big win last weekend. Racing up in Grand Rapids Grand Rapids, Michigan an indoor Tiki midget race picking up the big went out echo. There's a good time had a couple of fast cars there to coney. A Rudolph was there and had a lot of fun and salute those cool experience. Small oval track and might get some moderation. And the -- I hear they are run like 62 lap times that that's got to be crazy. Never move and the track got changed and then get to keep up with those those pretty far. Prosecutor on the track pretty quick. Yet you are one of them the best in the area drive those -- images indoors and outdoors and I always. Just watch you at Lancaster on the general -- the quarter mile. You whip around that thing on three wheels that it amazes me every time I just have to watch. Watch your car Gator on the wrecked his -- you can get that thing -- three will Heidi you do that. -- -- so -- setup honestly. Big secret channel that the Arab and basically this block that and I don't think they have really ever seen that scales so. He's old school and he knows how to get those character on the track and for some reason. Alec on the left front comes up the ground and -- and a -- and hopefully we'll go to the front as you like that so we'll -- How much do you learn driving those midget cars compared to drive enough on the big track with you sportsman. All are obviously completely different not far away ratios. Completely upset in the sportsmen but. Mean you got man alone in being more than sportsman very important and -- Q would not quite as important he -- He could drive the wheels up thing and party gravitas that he ago now. If you -- a lot. I'm glad I started out in midget gonna open wheel like that. In the open at a time and lot of that strength over the sportsman and not ice in my article appears though so. He cute little wiggle free on how come up and some people. Very economical on. Carpet on addressed. Yet that division that it's more club an NS RL lot of veteran drivers that really that has become a great showcase for young drivers in -- area. Guys like you in deep wallet Ernie and Vijay and then we got -- even younger guys like I cam barber Jonathan read Demont Connie -- -- Baghdad's air -- lot of young guys. And eat and Wear whatever trickier on whether it's -- Lancaster Hollander -- -- you guys just put on a great show with those cars a lot of fun to watch. All but of course a year. Big accomplishments on the big track driving the sportsman and last year. I'll driving with three Booker Franken petty Booker and your dad put that 22 party in the western united a bang up season last year lot of wins the race that -- be that -- -- -- -- deftly quite a seasoned field last year as well. Yeah -- there was really Goodyear we had our downs put. Oswego kept the whole year ignited -- matter what I did after that as -- pumped up when actually go. -- try and so long and I and the it would get -- with frank caddie book more towards my other my mom and -- -- Japan. That accomplishment not we almost pulled up to. US open by. Lost the handle on it at the end of the race and I know we have a right front won't -- so we end up second. I'm bummed about that we that a brand include car but if I'm McCain complained last year was great. -- -- What are your plans for what are you twelve where he can erasing most of the time what what's on your schedule for the season. Now we're still trying to figure out we got the -- Lancaster and -- going to be doing on. The full he's going cancer we're gonna hit nets. Quite honestly that on. Does not run -- point going to different tracks being humble abode packer sweep though any other track area we want to. -- we're still plus -- at ground. Not really -- while we will be a Lancaster quite it quite a bit this year though so -- just -- to -- are together now getting ready to go ala. And and we'll figure it out. The other research and it's not a fight or they're opening up their rules to try to include some of the sportsman cars. I'd give them a chance to run their races and giving them some incentives does that intrigue you would alt to make it changed your sportsman -- turn -- with a big odds. Yeah definitely but what to so it quite a bit of money to do that. On. I'm trying to talk -- going on in doing -- on -- -- -- working and not let yeah I'd love to be back racing with some outside and I mean. That's illegal drivers in the area and obviously -- -- the -- those guys -- -- median household -- You learn a lot recently formed -- To be back in my -- group will be cool. All Bobby we wish you the best luck again last year was a great success for you and your team and off to a good start this year with the indoor stuff. Good luck going get outdoors in 2012 and hopefully we'll we'll talk in Victor ruling sometime this year. That would be able -- in -- drive.