Making about it just he. They don't have a forward and do the things. That it looks like markets we can bring to the table while asking about van Nick's place in that is really getting ahead of myself because the first question is are an earlier question should be. What do you think this summer will be like last summer we had. All this focus on. A stab pushing that buffalo is in can be a destination. And they spent a lot of money to that and I think with some success. Will we can debate some of that. Now how much of that is necessary. Or going to be a part of the plan here they don't have the arena. Considerations. Like they had last year but spending money on players to establish the buffalo is not a place where good players get. You know -- go. What -- kind of summer do you feel. Is ahead. Well the first thing is what is the what is the lack of a collective bargaining agreement going to do is that going to change -- free agency. Is that going to change the way teams do business are they gonna be willing to make big trades or that type of thing. Since I don't think a salary cap is gonna be -- I would doubt it. In last year because I think the salary cap would be set. And to whatever the collective bargaining agreement's gonna come out in lasts. You -- under the old collective bargaining agreement -- Hampshire would go up it goes up every year. So that you would have an idea what you can spend on salaries but if you have no idea. Where the salary caps going to be it's kinda hard to laden and build your -- so I think that first in four balls is going to decide. A little bit of what teams are gonna be able to do now let's save it will go full steam you know forget about the collecting itself -- whatever. -- were in the offseason here we go I think of the biggest thing they need to do is. Find another senator number one. With some size I would love to see them move up in the draft today. You know tell me who were look at -- looking it and established NHL player. I certainly would be all for that resent it if it's if it's -- right player related -- is not a senator not a senator if you want. Parise I think you got to treat manic fan I think it's money in money out and that's the situation. Com which once again. I'm not against. I'm not saying that's about thing. Maybe just something different pot field this hasn't worked -- I don't see any Stanley cups down there are so. To get a good player you might have to get rid of a good player. And it's just something different I said that with Rick Nash. If you can convince Rick Nash that buffalo is the place for you and you will have to convince him because he -- His agent has said he will not change his mind on the teams he will vote to and the sabres were not one of them were not one of them so you would have to definitely changed his mind to do that. I wouldn't be against that if you bring Rick Nash and to be your left players said Thomas -- just something different. The CBA is probably not to be. Put aside for this point in reality and if it is it perhaps the sabres have an opportunity again. As a team run by a wealthy owner. To take advantage a little bit if other teams are skittish about spending money or more skittish than they beat the sabres would not be. You know business is still good right Paul like -- in the back in complaining season year with the the season ending and it's no playoffs again. But business by any measure seems good. And it's funny the comments that week here at a Sports Radio station are different in the comments that black years for the Buffalo Sabres here. You know days unless they're listening to us -- exactly they'll tell you. Anything any email I get 90% of them -- positive and happy with what we're doing. You know -- happy with the game presentation happy with the team happy with. What's going on there and and you know -- understand that injuries were -- or whatever soul. And businesses -- I mean fans are still coming to the Reno they're still paying for tickets they're still buying merchandise. All the things that would point to a business model. Are going very well. All for this hockey we again invite your calls on any subject pertain to the sabres this hour Paul Hamilton is here for that reason. Bull dog is not here today I'm Mike show here on WGR. The phone number is 8030550. Myers. Hashed boy these Colette is interest thing Miller of course. Rothman -- any of these guys who wanna ask about feel free enough to stay right were or I M where we are like that's how we usually do it. Rough and -- Paul both back. Absolutely absolutely that only if they choose to leave if one of them resigns for. Whatever reason that would be the only way okay it would not be the here's my next question you've -- me on this we talked about it a little bit yesterday Derek Roy. Doesn't appreciate the public criticism. Vanic acted like you know I'm used to it but made it to me sort of like he agrees with that may be tired of it. You can tell me how true that is how real it is if it is true that important players on this team are fatigued by erupts. Personality. To put it one way what should the sabres do about it. Invent -- case. Yeah it's sort of like you know what he's done it since I've been here -- to whatever. I wondered out loud if it affected his play if he just got to the points -- No matter what I do it doesn't matter you know but if that was the case. I think he would one now and when I asked him if there be any thought. -- buffalo announced to be traded. Not only the works just to see him kind of light up when he talked about awful. I mean he went from. This and all the sudden it was like know. I don't totally awful you know and went into his family loves it he loves it. He has great neighbors great friends he likes the team. Com he wanted no part of leaving -- -- and don't think he was lying I think he was very truthful and that statement though. I think he's to a point with -- Roberts like that office you know he he -- -- he yells at players that's what he does. It's not just me and might bother him more maybe if it was just him. But he's hard on Roy he's hard on Stafford. He's part of a lot of guys and he has. -- -- film sessions and are the most pleasant to go through an effort that from some players off the record and there's usually more negative things that are brought up in a loud matter in the positive things. But. You know as I said I'm going by what some players are telling me in some other people are telling me I'm not in the room I'm not there for the film sections. So why can't tell you that for shore. But. Stafford says Lindy Ruff has made him a better player. In -- yelling comes with that package so be it. I've had people in the second role behind the sabres bench tell me that in your queen Isabel when Lindy -- is called Stafford on the bench. I mean in you know I've had three different people tell me that certain situation where he just went after Stafford. Nonstop for full time I'll call them every name will Falklands war adamant and fans or tell me. So let me ask you your opinion about a couple things. As. Roth gets older and his team doesn't mean his team's average ages 2627. Years older metal much always be true. As he ages do you think he is having. I would say a tough time but does he have to adjust to that -- yet to -- he seemed like he did. For awhile after the Olympics. He went there and it was chocolate -- credited for this exit. Be a little bit different to the players in a little more and talking to Mike -- I I still remember this conversation I had with him both just standing around talking and with a microphone on on the record. How different Lindy Ruff was between his first visit to buffalo in his second visit to buffalo he says is like night and day. Hill instead of sit -- going through two hours of video screaming -- people he'll just. To view a video they have to certain foods you can go to new. You knew the video yours -- who watch you go watch it you evaluate yourself now there might be some coaching comments or whatever on it. And and after game I remember Linda Rothman numerous times after bad games and commendable -- -- What utility and very little I want to figured out of their own. You know -- that type of thing. And that seems to have moved out again and maybe he fought that didn't work or whatever and he seems to be back to worry was before so. He did change for awhile now it seems like maybe he has changed back. Also quickly -- and a call and at least before sports do you think -- Is on an extreme and of the spectrum in the NHL of coaches. In terms of this like is he harsher than most guys. More of you know a critic to players than most guys. Mean it depends who were talking there are other coaches that do the same thing that this is important as this in all but some -- some -- Lindy Ruff learned under Scotty Bowman know he's not Scotty Bowman by any stretch of the imagination. But that's where he learned that's it was his coach when he was in buffalo soul and there are a lot of things he's talked about that he admired about Scotty Bowman. Well -- -- I've heard him do that that'll make me think though because it's not 1985. Or in 1975. For that matter Bowman coached beyond the eighties is just. And many of moment he's coaching replied I'll make more money than he does many of -- players came right out -- say they hated them. But yet they liked winning Stanley cups. Players are different now aren't they are getting care players like him or not he cared if they want all right let's get Michael in on WG Argo had Michael. Yeah I'd -- electric I doubt -- that that doesn't dispute the neighbors are all the ball -- -- -- That eating bad day you need to make playoff before the Arctic. He's not -- the goal is not. These cities not concerned about making money. -- out dispute that statement -- that are being dirtier that this particular paper but bottom line -- I think the epic about the -- -- Plus and the sabres they're probably better attendance and they had good attendance and all some of it and they sell more games and tickets are more expensive. You know the the bottom line should be that it. Probably doesn't much matter goes in it to win and I take him. I believe him fully. The way he stalked and I've I've just. You know exhibiting old habits by pointing out whether business is good it doesn't matter. Now there's a waiting list for season tickets that if if business of people that teed off that waiting was to be pared down almost nothing. People would be not feeling sitting in the seats on that's what we mean by business being good now I can say that but. A lot of people will be thinking. -- -- -- we've talked about so many times you're telling me your sole objective is to win the Stanley Cup than what are we doing with the same leadership. And so many of the same players year after year after year and it is a fair point about can we say that after one year. He's owned the team for the a year and a few months well. That is how I look at -- as a -- look at it it's been longer he has not been here for fifteen years. -- we can hold them accountable for one year.