One more time around with rob ray this season rob nice of you to. Join me today Oreo. It in aren't that you electric and and all that it looks like. One are you saying -- shouldn't you be out there hunting or building something like usual. No country here -- little -- among. You McGrath two not quite ready yet so little. -- -- -- Right so it's a bonanza on. Try to reintroduce our ultimate family. But it's probably good idea. -- for anyone that for you limits and that all right well. Lately we've been talking about. Well a lot of things but the first thing in my mind here is this idea rob that that Derek Roy brought up. On the way out or back on Monday that. He doesn't appreciate Lindy Ruff criticizing publicly and from what Paul says. Roy isn't the only guy who has maybe gotten tired of rough being so negative and so critical how how right. Is a player who thinks that and is that a problem. Well you did have you heard it periodically through a year and there. Isn't a problem I think it probably -- -- expecting. Because of I think it you know it's different than away you know 101520. Years ago whatever they think guys can handle that a little more. And now they just they can't handle quite as much and you know how it goes back to. Special we've seen on sixty minutes and that means so much. You know -- cute theories now they're they're raised to be. You know things done for the men and never told that they're doing something -- where everything is perfect thing in order you're rewarded for everything sort things go wrong. Or when somebody questions or when somebody shows authorities then that it at a time dealing with that then. You know I think right or wrong I think you just have to understand what you have in your room and you're dealing with. You know it as if they if it's not what makes it work then you gotta change it. So. You know I go my way ever since -- inventions that hang up the smear and a market hanging out. And -- days of nonstop. Here. Those cheeks are doing it. And here is marketing -- so are you that period. Let's let's do that at the eruptions a stop to stop telling what he wants that maybe I start to play. Well. It's hard to get it -- -- you know -- you know leader. You want the best for everybody that not everybody can handle. What whatever win team to. Determining the rough was a good coach in the first place his system. Is. You know his philosophies on the game of course also there would be some. Evaluation of how he he interacts with players but. Sometimes I wonder the -- cursory gears talked about them. The last time I asked are you about rough is that I believe in them -- -- sometimes it is unfair rob I sometimes wonder if it's just decided for all time. That rough over there that Roth is a good coach and that's that. And we're just not considering any other kind of talk. You know having said that just your feelings on a rough staying ring gear staying after a sixth season out of the playoffs in ten years. Like I can look at it as ownership side and say that you know I can understand why that maybe. Are keeping in mind because you know further for the time period that they've been there com is the year look -- to -- but but people. Maybe not. But. You know I think -- that your position yesterday says. -- ownership being. Laden's -- -- to win. And eager to do it sooner than later. There and I would wanna think there at. You know those types of positions. If if things don't. Turn around her don't give considerably better and keep progressing year after year here so you get that out golden. You know that I think there's this question perhaps for the lack -- I understand. You know because it's only want your -- you know you want to give them another chance -- you wanna get the chance to dispute they can do. So it's growing at some point you're ready to say this owner talked about. Winning is our our goal here and it's a point he's gonna have to change the coach if they haven't done it. Well they haven't done that then -- -- you know that it'll fall back on -- it when it because you know rate now you can you can argue over the years they might not have been able to. They weren't given the -- the opportunity. But now they are. So yeah I think that responsibility it is definitely a fall back on them you know -- it doesn't happen. You know but they're they're gonna get the opportunity to prove themselves. And the proof that they can do it so. Billy is one aircraft or now. But. You know I can't -- doctor -- -- on the road it's safe situation might be totally different. So tired of the coach to the coaches and upper -- the fifteen years -- tacky bit later. You know how things change the game changing player changes. The way people think change everything about that -- coach -- be able to change with those times too. And so that that's most of while -- It. Yeah he we've talked about this a few times he is getting older and the team isn't you know the team is. Could always be in its mid to late twenties on average in you know he's in his early fifties now which I'm not saying is an all too old for the job. But I would think he'd have to you know be able to -- as he gets older to younger guys in a relatively younger guys. So maybe maybe that's been a bit of a challenge I don't know rob -- is my gas Bulldog is often Mike show -- WGR another big. Bottom line this week rob is some you know here's Danny Briere again right two goals in his first game. And thinking about -- hair and just how that'll happen Briere is almost as many goals in the playoffs as the sabres do. Since you left. I wanna make another point that comes out every year but just like hearing -- blacks say that he's -- early evaluating -- and -- year. Pretty much on her from the day that they arrive that cool and black arrived do you think that that's the right approach. Yet again I think that there. You know you can't judge anything on the -- Because we don't know how well Campbell there or word you know what stipulations where what thing throughout -- -- weren't allowed to happen. I think there it is fair and there are only judging from the time they come because they know what exactly. The situation and they know what. They've been allowed to do what they have been allowed to do. So again I I think that that's the only fairway to do -- if you you can -- that on the -- then. You know I because you don't know audience and notes and you know the situation you know everything was born on I don't think would be. You know doing -- -- just who are given. Giving very in the media appreciate the pepper. I made that a thing yesterday out of how breathe air and also put Michael packet in this actually -- -- deceit. Will to win that they exuded I think. That these guys now with with you know with respect there were injuries and other factors that when the season I know but I just don't think. This group -- guys overall. Comes off as being as. You know passionate as willing to. Go all in. Two win games as as Briere was -- -- was an in of course the sabres let those guys walk out the door. First of all do you think that what I say about this group of guys is fair when I say that. Well I think it. I think what this group would guy for maybe that you park what you mean but -- they have a lot of pretty early. And I don't think it really ever. If you know maybe they've been -- how to deal that the controversial side of -- he's you know and except in Colorado a lot of these guys are part of it than. You know -- they kind of got an early stage should work they're being got a little taste of it then and they want it more of it. You know it really hasn't happened that way you know maybe it is sometimes it is the question of the leader they have been there because things -- get. Kind of I'm not quite figured that Jason part of the immigration reform that that he was more and so corrupt former earlier on. You know either we are from when he got young kids coming in and you want to have the right. That true in that room the right leadership are trying to think that these cute the way. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That great. Aunt and that'll open up. -- -- -- -- A change that although. -- do to change that. The way they think about -- -- a lot of that are better to deal with people that they're watching it very pro. And how about. Putting -- air America that elevated status mean in the playoffs. There's hardly been anybody better in the league since since the lockout post season and Daniel career. I guess they really don't know what your opinions of MR because I remember talking to you so often when he was on the team. You know do you think it's right to consider him an example of a guy who. Just wants it more. What there's there's guys that that it wanted way more than others you know there's guys that play the game. And they have to accept that their talent that the guys that played a success because they they were there are easily work harder than anybody. You know I think political outlook you see guys. Oh lead going into the situation we've -- play out. Not always that -- rather Arab guy that was there was we're believers. Writer -- they're aware arc in the and what not -- the mortality guy won't be anywhere guy turns up in a pretty. He declared that it didn't -- any lower than it is speaking probably because of the stature of Albany was never going to be able to deliver. So -- he -- and so be that player in here in the immediate result and that. But yet yet occurred guy -- you know guys there's only been out there and you seemed so -- quote -- over the years you order app not a local vote both point to play out prepared even regular season best. Yeah you'd you'd have to have those guys you've got to have those guys -- it's not always the count again is the guys that are gonna -- note here. And -- whatever it takes to win. Yeah you can have all the talent you'll want if it's not gonna go that extra -- -- in new -- going to -- the law. Claude LeMieux about rob -- giving Claude LeMieux some credit on the show Greg has. You got to appreciate the way you play ability at all. Eighty playoff goals. This ego Hillary. -- three Toronto. Orbit for a -- Probably illegally help me -- Completed in one -- so it and formula have too much. It is definitely. Maybe I'd I'd put it that. And that you carry that around did you watch did you watch Philly Pittsburgh. About that about that loss right the gold it goes in to beat them. It's gonna it's gonna be a little bit of a challenge to sit there in the the the third intermission right before overtime Pittsburg. And shake off that they blew that lead. Well you apart you know you're sitting there but it -- it I've met the look at that it's urgent it was a coaching situation there because. Your apartment team and you gotta make sure those guys continued they got that fourth goal would be so important. -- just keep pushing him in. I think -- out of this kind of falsely abandoned and by the time. You know they got themselves coming around again -- had momentum and when they had the momentum then then. Pittsburgh couldn't match and they couldn't. It'll keep popular. I think Pittsburgh -- expecting something a little different. They're more fairly through battered economy totally -- -- and the -- the year here they -- well all that kind of thing. It'll -- urgently where is your country tolerance sometimes -- sitting back waiting toward apps that are legal and ability to -- Put that on the harbor them and play the game and I think felt our Pittsburgh is so confused what was going on that it just couldn't an airlock. Interest thing. How about Vancouver did you see them I saw that and I think they're in trouble. Yeah I think they're in trouble in the beginning it says. You know and you gotta put your number two goaltender in and Luongo suited to secure the vote just because you don't want anybody asking questions you'd think he's together as well be him because he's been there. Then you know that's that's a situation where -- -- epic problems within the organization so all of a sudden it carried over on the race at all. I just think it's -- the -- there that need to shake you know they got some great players make it out. But you know you negotiate that -- a little bit and I know that kind of committed to Longo their. You know they need coaching or something different out there just to get that in a little bit like. How about. And what Washington did Washington just looked like his political defense and hoped to get a lucky goal. Well when you -- in the big -- ground offense. You know are supposedly high powered expose -- -- -- player. I don't think that's being wannabe player and you know you're kind of pull them back a little bit. Unity except where it might be. Every game you're an actor to play like it's expected that bought -- or any sport -- -- -- -- -- better roll right and play your game out there and open it up up a little bit hopefully that. You know you know Paramount way it's sort of playing better -- that the game they want a lineup in that the watcher council should. I agree habits and about Washington for two years don't get away from what major great the first place which is and scoring talent. -- rubble it's nice to catch up with you and give a big offseason plan. -- think. About it. How zip -- -- time at your knees are rated in the call -- a lot of info political crowd are. On knowledge -- really feel you know a lot of things every day's like and everything that she passed yet sure what are you people out there. -- -- Thank you rob enjoyed bonanza today. Except that there -- here OK see you later. We're -- I. That today's or is that the other one as the old one. Hey Greg I know you are the fact or fiction. Titanic. Back all officiating MC today. But master of ceremonies for the new eighty playoff goals of club in the -- That is that is ninth all time in hindsight ninth all time in playoff goals yeah. At that I didn't know there was an eighty seem like about a million now you have eighty playoff goals. So hard to score -- -- had all the -- score eighty of them Gretzky had about 220 something to -- thirty something Gretzky had 122. Once every six months I go to Wayne Gretzky hockey DB page and juiced ball and just fallen over junior numbers playoff numbers. If I asked you who's in the top ten not yet you have Gretzky have given lute given you LeMieux excuse me. Do you think you could get. Five or six more -- I think so drive -- go into every now -- ago -- messier setting up their shore. Sure. Curry powder up there OK very good while I go -- to Israel in that room. Edmonton Edmonton. One more Edmonton -- them. Here Tiki culture clash Penske polish and skis Peter -- had at least one hit with at least according clutch a couple of our. I don't know -- Up to eighty. Two overtime. It's. Anderson Anderson fifth really good all right perfect score so far right or four. We have to warrant more Edmonton's locally coffee by may the -- got to be up there. Mario LeMieux is not he is twelfth I said he's got to be up there but not his eyes eight Claude LeMieux and it has more playoff -- in his life that -- and -- let me finish. While the new he battled hodgkin's. -- taken -- by the ways fourteenth is that. Not that I'm wondering about your seventy to about your boss sees fauci sixth -- sixth period go Gretzky messier curry hole. Hall should god which read all the Brett -- Anderson boss see one of Paul's doesn't count that he still out there. This book was in the crease he would still be -- Gretzky messier curry Paul Anderson boss seat sakic. Maurice Reshard all in the semis and finals -- they had. That's amazing 82 playoff goals and two rounds of -- that's -- Playhouse that's impressive for his life. Claude LeMieux and Sean -- -- same point. 79 but about Henri Richard he won the cup like eleven times he's got lots of cops but is not in the top 25. Rolled away -- players who ever played for the sabres are in the top 25. Who would be first in history. In playoff goals. Of players who ever played for the sabres this is a good question. This is a really good question I think that any Greer again I -- maybe models. 44 year old son. Under chuck had a lot of first round -- chart is out bad. LaFontaine power -- I think -- Andreychuk more Korean at least one goal. Who among players who ever played for the sabres forward Craig Simpson out -- -- this year at first all time in. Play playoff goals among players who played for the sabres you're one of logical tubular.