Jerry Sullivan joining us well it up until 550 lines -- if you wanna get it and they have any other thoughts or anything else wanna bring up with solid -- sabres anything else that's fine. 8030515. To call in join -- good morning Jerry Sullivan argued. I am sickened that Sully I know you're watching the knicks heat yesterday so I'm not sure you -- any of the penguins flyers but. Like to get your thoughts on what you -- we can from the NHL and if you think the league's got a big problem understands that. What the current problem and the a big problem once Shanahan is 2500 dollars to -- means -- can't go on the world. It's a different game in the play offs and my agents that but that always been a problem that league. And there -- officials. Become a reflection of dirt and disciplinarian that well we're gonna call a little differently. And it got to come down hard here but that -- people all over the place. And I guess this is typical who legislate that and and could be consistent but. I don't know what the -- go on their and I think that hockey in the very conflict but let's face it this sport it's still doesn't have a major present the United States and I -- -- -- gender comment it would look like that didn't happen. Resident Canadian. Online site -- the big deal also mean what what -- what they want. They want a violent sport there's a words -- like it was in the old days and it was worse in the community but in ourselves. And Jeremy LSU it's like you want boxing -- make what what your friends. A lot of us. Who is this little hockey. I like it is trying to sell what you got a problem. But really becomes to me like almost like a bounty system now what it felt like -- and they can't believe what he. Who look like Gregg Williams to confront some of these you -- well after his -- really and in football has taken a very stern. Position on it and you know and are you seem like they're behind. What if your star player is that a hundred -- got a concussion -- in the middle of it didn't joke outward should be sick and. Why -- watching a replay we put up the hit -- want to Terry David Denny chased down ruined elbowed him in the -- direction I didn't react buys justice it's stopped at the difference is Gerry and you know your boxing animate comparison is good enemy enemy appears to be more violent. It's willing combatants to me. Thank Claude Giroux didn't sign up for this elbowed in the head it's cheap shot. And qatari it is a sign of the album ahead and -- and doesn't sign up for the punch to the back of the head and Zetterberg does not sign up for the punched the back ahead by Shea Weber -- If the NHL wants to keep physical hits in in and fights in. I think they can do it they just have to find a way to make it so if you are so if -- power if you go out there and blind side a guy you're gonna pay for it. You wanna hit a guy you get hit him square. Right hat on -- gonna look at him you're gonna is gonna know it's coming you know you're not gonna take these liberties that these players have consistently taken and Brendan Shanahan you know. It it Jerry goes back to the speckled hit on cross beat the winner classic where the leak actually signed up for saying that was an accident at an embarrassment. No hockey player in the world would admit that that's an accident you know exactly where your shoulder is you know exactly you can catch a guy in the -- And they signed up -- that being an accident. And you see that it all the time bowl ski on Alfredsson a few months ago that it is the same hit. These these players are consistently led off the hook with. All you know well hey it's an accident the the you know that they bumped into each other yeah yeah sure -- -- that's a convenient that -- Crosby not Erin Nash and with -- -- That -- -- and the player I don't care how old you are wrong and he retired he still player. There -- some kind of cold among -- is that it did Biden sport being what it is the most barbaric sport especially at this time a year. Agreed to find column by the Philly columnists or talk -- -- in their -- and he he. He says it takes more courage to go on the right by up I'm -- any other player and those sport. Right now that this time a year and it's all on depends on your perspective to the -- in the playoffs. It is different discussions and it fertility -- were talking about them but you don't discussion isn't in Philly. Other team has grown up but he repeated. Shorter throws and then no big deal more on the cold is that this is some this is what you take. The hockey player to win the cup you get what they did what you don't get -- necessarily. And that is what it needs to be hockey player that's part of their problem. And it's data in things -- and football but I I really. We purport to started up I don't sport are you just seemed more in ingrained in the culture. And these young guys who grow up and make that men make -- words talk about what they've got themselves the young guys that are coming and a hockey. Maybe there today there more. I'm now in their minds that they it'd be more part of -- -- -- -- and I don't know but that doesn't -- to decide. Football without a coach very a year. And it took out another immigrant -- forever well. That the part of the story here for me Jerry is that you know -- -- pitch again that's not a shock. -- does that kind of deal's been a bit of you know he walks on the -- that is a forty goal scorer who took that shot Claude Giroux. So thank you Brendan Shanahan you you have this this issue where it's not just the the good ones you've got and it immensely skilled player. And again it's a -- taking multiple shots at heads late. Tell me why team's ills that plague and the rest of the postseason and how long should suspension and taxis they'll probably losing its swept in the -- me on this what one game. -- win will it ever get real -- have to be in a coma someone at the die. When will slightly real and didn't from the suspension or equivalent. To the injuries. When players. Players get -- games for getting cautioned. In their careers and from concussions and forty games from concussions. They wander around depressed because the concussions. You know what it should take fighting out game maybe this suspensions start -- Writing -- the level the injuries and that time it takes players out. Because this player in the this week at a bigger encryption problem in football. I don't know the numbers reflect that they do they do got a lot of players to work our Internet world -- What -- guys Internap. Is a factor in how much it shouldn't they aren't we got April and I'll put guys and it really meant to. And then right. Now Sally I think that's one of the NHL's problems I think there's two things one and you started right up the top with that. Their mentality is and you're right I think Shanahan did say that the playoffs are different. And we don't want to decide the playoffs with eight referees or be suspensions so the messages guys were gonna let you gonna give you. More leeway than ever because it's the post season and the other thing is exactly you just said that mentality on suspensions is based on. Did the guy come back and play in the game or not. It should be the intent if -- -- jury didn't miss a shift I could care less James -- should have been thrown out and suspended for what he did. It shouldn't matter what occurred during a gets up or it can cost and he doesn't play for the next six months. So in effect for the problem what that the public want the people there on the sport to Medicare a lot of that is great. People that like it's very. Can't figure -- -- -- really there is well I I'm like in the bought there that while watching low scoring it's very physical hockey. And I think that that I'm I'm I'm not a target audience and I'm not to our audience and football either because. Excel what are they so violent it. You know on the Internet -- and -- and people look I'm 50000 dollars for the people put it that the -- and the -- What did he -- there and we are talking about entertainment business and what they're selling and -- that the problem is you know I've. I don't know the answer because I go to games and I speedway crowd react the fight I think I should be out of it the biggest contradiction sports. The fighting so that is legislated into hockey with department LT. Which will be -- died over the summer coordinated it might but look at -- and they know what would this we -- get let's get it out. -- a part of sport where it's legal in and that they got the guys in the head. And you're not part of your problem. And you say you like fight and why. I know I -- I I'd be hypocritical I liked about -- and watch more on what I I but I. I'm not -- never got into the point I don't need a fight -- -- go to a hockey game there's no fights I never walk away disappointed. But I'd be I'd be hypocritical -- said there's now life fighting and I like. -- fights I liked the fact that I knew was that she was coming back that someone might trying to get into a fight with him I like that. What one of the most immediate moment of the year when -- that. Well it was a bad example that the sabres but -- I like the fights I do and I and I don't have a problem if you take about that final thing to sport dies. -- survive just fine without fighting and -- all that concussions and everything maybe you're right maybe it is time. The take fighting out of the game but this this debate this weekend was not about fighting. This is about a lack of respect. This about cheap shots about hits to the head about a league that under suspense this has nothing to do with whether fighting blowing belongs in the game this was just -- -- This is a league last in the Stanley Cup finals and a biting incident. -- Let's not forget that. We're out of biting and are pulling it as telling us season. Sign onto it didn't look good but not the same and what happened with the New Orleans Saints but you know it still. Young and being. In wired. To a certain -- a competitive point -- of violence. Either cultural sport about it coaches and in hockey it just ratchet up as the period goes along but united. Broke about it we called the genuine sustain that growth during this period they hate each other and that part of a culture without your help guys they hate each other. Who out there and it around the IE -- other. And and in this -- not happen it's it's what. It's like telling your kid you know. Not to be stupid stuff we meet in your Munich big oil among their bodies and control well I think you know -- you've got a big suspension at the U apt that. This spent at a point where it is the message gets through but when you when -- sport but it's different for oil output requires both to do. Well it's it's it's not just young men I think with violence tyranny you know. Not to say we are to blame we're part of it and so was every ever personal watches what this is as a result of the win at all cost sculpture. Winning is more important morning's the most important thing you know -- it's what defines a player but GM coach. A team you do anything to win. And that's why it went about a story came out that was an actual thing that the league could punish but. To me it was not shocking because I've figured players that and anyway. It's it is to your advantage to knock the opposing quarterback out of the game you already wanna do it so -- -- -- hundred -- in at forty already wanna do it. And indeed he decided primetime Tuesday night 8 o'clock you know we're gonna put in play you know we're gonna try it out. And in major primetime which wanted it -- -- I'm not only a week brought to its belly that's virtually gets it the they've looked at summit that the problem might be it football spelling. By the violent in baton -- and -- that I'm the Hispanic men are fighting and it's that great contradiction here and -- we have to live with it -- and I love baseball but that they have brawl two -- -- -- -- -- Yeah act Kansas City in Cleveland of that yeah. -- in and include -- -- -- -- you on another anti Garrett and our the it here I'm. You go -- this if I'm writing about this week. Where you and you're still my last question for you we -- writing about NN day. How come. Well you auto oven door up the news this week well -- As Jeremy surely knows her side haven't been done don't departing for the vital in the we conservatives believe it is and it's not legal in the state and probably -- they've -- gotten tired all in one government union and the pack your bag and then. -- -- And I was an -- I believe he's from Rochester do you guys it would low. Despite right here buckle up and and it's it's it's the lead on the puppet who even today there -- New York City. And it's it's it's great up and I've never been an emanate -- but -- that this story which is what I like so I'm gonna. Some and that this week but also a hundred days from the Olympic opening ceremonies on Wednesday or Tuesday. There's some not so I -- and started don't involve ripping its neighbors. Erica quickly and on on the anime point Jerry is that my guess is some people -- listening and saying. You know how could anyone support that -- against the NHL well BM Maine that's that's what the sport is if -- guy wants to go in and sign up to. Try and knock a guy out or get knocked out. That's to me that his is right to do you know you wanna go skydiving bungee jumping. Punching in the face whatever you wanna do to get your kicks go for it. I hit -- it should be legal in the state it's just one man and a lot of politics that are making it so it's not it's it's legal all around us. Columbus you can go see it. And what do lawless place Columbus, Ohio is on right inches it's like mad Max beyond thundered Oman Columbus, Ohio because it's illegal so. You know some -- you'll get it when none of our ratings. Now maybe let me get a call -- for selling us here on a WGR butcher -- Sullivan Coughlin is right ahead. Good morning guys appreciate it market -- call listen here you you know you may email account under revenue says. You know you're not may be the target audience for the sport. But it would take some for a new art because you watch because you first motorsports. -- -- before you've got to be Kmart. Column writer. You like hockey because of physical this charge that the way to play the game now as we as -- you'll you're not getting older. The tip they talk the kind of wanted to -- we get a little bit to make -- little softer understand it -- I don't believe in dirty play but that's the game was built. All the machine of this sport was all part -- fighting and everything else now real quick I'm -- Philadelphia Pittsburgh still city city of brotherly love being town Boston buffalo -- sabres back in the days immediately replaced here. All my mom my buddy. Who are here right now Rob -- this is this what we do now would be swept Billy -- That was which you saw yesterday was a battle of the city and the way they played -- represent their -- and don't give me well I don't -- know when the diet was a little. -- Pittsburgh and -- but let's also put something else to -- because Philadelphia is not winning the series because they're more physical -- you know our war. That was -- time nickname. -- -- -- But they're winning their -- That -- it's no -- no lets not let it lets not let it -- that's not why they're winning they're winning because they're better offensively. Is there -- better to know what you're wrong you're wrong but there that the seventies the broad street bullies they are not yet seen -- -- right now they're puppets. Don't like to eighty compete. -- that's nothing to do with the can find great yet that is absolutely nothing to do with the with the series they didn't in that it's. And then our -- of the Emmy winning three games in the world nobody stood up what we -- we -- -- the -- -- -- play. Now we have been at -- we have almost -- week old school Buffalo Sabres I wouldn't. That's not that's not life or Philadelphia is when I'm naturally there are quite different input here on my -- that -- minutes I went out and even an on the grant's question Jeremy. -- It's different types of. Up and I say that both time. You have a point but you know Briere on the play because these are that he gets in those thirty years -- court. Under pressure unlike a lot of sabres -- over the years preparing a letter to bush but what that would. Sully the point was supposed to be about the war of the city's. The series the series really degenerated into what it did in in the game and listen like I. I get the point about Billy's reputation. The flyers are not bullies. The flyers what your point is -- they've got the toughness to stand up a bit but which is -- which is great. But they've got Matt reed is a rookie contributing with multiple playoff goals he -- a great play in that game if I'm -- one holes and three. Actually they're -- all that winning the series because they score it has nothing. We're in a rookie that directory you're probably haven't minded goal all year long you know what it probably wouldn't like you know I like Pittsburgh fighting that are goalie talks. Limited and they're they're they're angry and frustrated a goalie can't bubble popped -- favorite should offer rhino records be yeah this year. Solid relate but I wanted to give -- a plug for a side note the Paper over the weekend for all the stuff you guys are doing with the NFL draft the Buffalo News. But we're all over but. When guys are -- but -- or we're going every this year. And I'd I'd bigger reflects. The growing up about this built in which -- about -- it. I listen you're on today at 5 again. Which I am reminded me it's my job personally have fun. 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