-- -- It's much. Welcome back happy Friday a 5 o'clock sunny and warm and life is good. Let's check -- friends Thurman Thomas about drafting 1988. A memory that. Bills fans some bills fans certainly have watching the draft that day. And Thurman I'm guessing. You still -- asked about a lot -- wrong. Yeah it was. Quicker yeah every listening or draft come around again that's about it about. You know from you don't know some friends or somebody or run into expression from here in the buffalo area you put. You know so they'll -- -- -- report it and hopefully. -- -- You know a lot of bills and remember. What. Always seem like -- -- is where you words your can your campus apartment your your parents' house on you know where you really -- and what our crew was there was just a guy with a camera was there more than that there. Are you know it would actually. At me and my best friend apartment Hartley dykes we have an apartment off campus you know. A senior -- and he was doing so we're allowed to vote. Live off campus and you know he was he's been my best friend since high school -- guess I'd move on all together intact against each other protections and I actually was. What was her name Andrea Kramer. I think -- and Andrea -- yes she was. She was there taking their eye before you know we went and had dinner and talk about what we're gonna do the next day and in the end you know I you know the story goes on you know. First probable. You know they can actually sleep -- they go to a commercial. And they come back and produces from the is being called the you know would you you know would you like -- -- you know without like -- You're here now -- gonna figure for the duration until I get drafted. You the second round and round and you know I got a call from my Marley and -- -- -- -- in Friday at thirty natural out draft picks. They called me as if they went big in the forty and and and they did. Thurman if you can pinpoint what was the most agonizing piece of it. And I'd love to hear you answer that was it. Where were you thinking about just where you. Embarrassed or re thinking about money like what was it being on TV what what what particularly about it. Does he did it does come off like you worry and agony there and maybe he'll tell -- wasn't quite that bad but what do what about it was the was the real. Problem with that. Why are the real problem was you know going through become mine and going to visit that you know. Three called. Visit from. New Orleans -- eastern all of Andy. And the oh loss and ran him and in the auto execs in the first round I can remember I know. While there under the animal fourteenth to remember what. New Orleans and CNET news and it went to -- 25 somewhere around there and go to that and you know -- in the first round pick you know we're really excited that. You don't want the first round winner while the -- -- -- the corner alone so. I was a little bit better -- All the little bit upset also. Because. You know the retains and I just mentioned that there or take in the first round and I was -- they didn't go. -- I was embarrassed and I think he has me it was embarrassed -- too because you know appear that people want a commercial break wanna leave so in exit now you know I don't worry about it. You know look this is just a supporter of private process a typical school. -- I was like that was a better but then again after the first trial would it. That being an illegal for the second and in -- -- by a couple of the runner Beckel by. Almost gardeners would -- one object of fun you would've been pig though. In those now with the Indian bear that note trying to turn to anger and you know. It was a little bit about. Houston I think picked Lorenzo white in Manitoba and that first rounds are running backs were picked by teams -- released. By one team that had scouted you that it really looked that you closely. Yet it was I say it was. Gas and great. -- -- Here even Craig Heyward. Brett laws through riddle why you only Jefferies. I think that was about it. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That you got it was -- ago. That's right. -- -- -- Houston you don't want the lamp in -- -- -- Texas Houston that going to be a little older heartbreaking what was not. Yeah and what little breaking a pretty wired and end. Through to break even more heartbreaking is that you know I talked -- Jerry -- a couple of times and he was in cultural -- at all that the assignment. And he was you know he was like work -- trying to impress these guys take you there and you know you're the bag that I want you know you we want to be in this British Rudolph. Issue as I mean I had so many called he called. And you know he's a -- oh boy I mean all of those. The papers television we're gonna take him district we want. There goes you know when it -- could have picked in target but haven't decided you know they want ignorant white -- But I don't want when you look at it all of Bulldog in my you know. I can understand you know you know people telling you their -- blackened. Understand also you know -- have to -- questioned -- the so called on the -- and out of college so. I and I and I think better when it came time to a pick me with those preaching develop a buck a -- of how I got those here you know. Yeah they would take me but I probably Atlanta went through four years. I mean that was the big question and more about you come out of college how long what I actually -- would be partially torn -- coming out of college. Okay that that's what it was wet -- you hurt your knee and did it make sense to you as -- the draft was happening or even in the days after. The draft that it meant so much to the team's. Like you know I think. You know it happened by my the summer warned that some might to a New Year's Oklahoma State and and probably had that not happen -- probably came on my junior year. -- understand my senior year but yes I mean that was. That was basically the entire area you know ordered say that my vehicle original track you've been through a lot of people was that you know -- We had a -- certain -- would HBO. Government football game he never missed practice he was that every single practice every single drill. So you know they gave me a copy that note I think it would have cracked -- still still coming up from the injury. In college -- and run -- beg you just don't know how long you know that. Particularly injury at all at how long you know I was going to be able to hold up -- not feel a lot of a lot of with the guys coming up. Not war -- war. Brit called feet -- operate or don't. My from my actually Euro accompanist it's an open National Football League all and I feel a lot of players where almost not a saint I brake and I'll kind of wonder myself. And they're still pick in the first -- that the ebooks -- -- what I'm going to worry about it so. -- you know there's a lot of -- and how that went -- -- product but but just then Bill Polian and then Marv Levy and really. The guy that really I think -- our formerly worked -- at least he's not appears to my right Olympic code really pushed hard for. You know -- is real quick back to the Oilers like to sit here I mean obviously it turned out great. Antarctica appear to Alec young weren't a part of a high power offense here in buffalo public view when you just -- the running shoe. A moment legally thinking about how different the fortunes of franchises -- -- I -- I wonder what that offense. Would have been like with you at running back no slight on Lorenzo white he was good runs away it was good thing you're in the hall fame you know yeah he Wallace a but I if you ever talked that those guys move -- and those receivers. Your rival about what might have been like if you ended up there. Not that -- I think the only guy that could really talk true. About it was. Loose the year when it's off -- -- Bruce Matthews as I was we spent a lot of time ago. And you know you -- he would going to person actually talked to about. Man I -- we're going to be and that was after what thirteen fourteen out of eighteen years or every after I retired in five years. You know he was the first person really mentioned to me that you know what would it -- -- in in the obviously you know. It would -- you know at random run issue. Ham and -- so obviously you know that guy whose office -- on the -- He wanted to run the ball look at Morgan -- immediately was an office -- -- -- -- more people wondered. You're gonna have good you know you know they are often and they wondered what you -- like man I wanna what you order theater and offense and it was it was kind of like the same office there that are Amber Frey when he first saint. Into the league with the vitro. Let's not elect eligible -- -- -- -- come -- Rebecca which I think I showed you know what Buffalo Bills put that to protect you wonder you know I unequivocal. You know maybe a hundred baud net and that's -- off his foot. Possible Oilers never -- left it's it's possible the Oilers the combat game happens. They have the loss to Montana. In and in 93 and 94 terrible year like everything the fortunes is go right down the tubes and they're gone. You know so. Are gone and so yeah I saw. I think overall they're good at it turned out the best for me and the worst things. Thurman Thomas were those retirement the 88 draft of course Marshall in the Bulldog and WGR. So Thurmond I mean you put the pieces together here. Running backs were picked if so was it like teams didn't need a running back. You played through the injury so wasn't like teams saw that you know they really had on field. Reasons to be concerned about about your health it almost doesn't add up I think sometimes watching the draft. It may be this would have been more true in the past I don't know you told we thank I think sometimes watch in the -- that if there's a guy who starts to fall. That the other teams who don't know anything bad about them start to wonder if they've missed something. Do you think that can happen. Yeah yeah yeah I think because I think it have a lot I just don't think it happens a lot armed. I think the last person. Can actually remembered. Drop that they were talking about. Wanna close -- -- would -- -- don't talk about you know -- picked number one right whichever Cisco he -- whatever reason that it was. And I think -- Flickr dot gathered to remember I was worn out. Or out but I think that was because the drug rumors of the light that. That apple would want out came out but yeah I definitely I definitely do think that that apple lot. What these guys coming out of college and -- -- he's not really you know door and holed just about every single order. That's possibly after the draft I think you. But that was -- -- who is on which you diver in the morning show. You know that he talked about you know to interview with sixty players going through almost into our process. Would it also as a lineman brought it back while he was I think a lot of teams don't do it I think it just kind of just because the player that -- -- At a certain time and pick it would position to to evaluate began to a question -- have a conversation -- Yeah Brady Quinn went for pretty hard right -- going to remember correctly righty yeah -- are pretty far. So. Yeah I mean it it does happen it's interesting to think about like you know how how -- How would he ball below the -- you know you just you there were questions about your knee these other guys like I don't know what were the questions about pretty Quinn basically just how good -- I think really a moment. Arizona can entry injury concern there was no. Off field concern that David was talking about is that talent save their Roger still which is how good is the guy. It -- hear it and as it turned out of -- cal Stanford Cisco. They finally got something out of Alex Smith last year and mated made it pretty far but. You know they took him incident -- Rogers and -- router but that's illegal. -- Thurmond of course you know you're you're famous here and we would talk about this any day. But it seems nationally when the draft comes around and somebody's doing an article on. What happened to the kind of thing that happened to you you're the guy it seems often as you said beginning McChrystal calls about it. And that is quite a compliment to you isn't it like. That the writers are looking for find me a story of a guy that everybody passed on amends to that great and -- quintessentially. That thank. Or are you know -- -- you you know what yeah I expected and I am I collecting when you. When I looked at when you look -- -- you can. I think I was an accurate -- number I think -- -- -- ever -- atop the light at all yeah yeah -- a I clearly remember you know but I think I was actually the first guy that there were kids that are. -- -- -- -- Where were they there because there was suspicion about your -- Ely quick was that the story line why they were with -- that well here's a guy that. Could be picked early but maybe not because like we did they look at the -- go into it with that and thought maybe. You know I don't know why but I which you know -- just -- appeared talk about it Bob agrees wadded it. You know opinion on it I wondered why did you know you could ever guide you know like there. That question more bodies you know new economic college he could. This should be good going first round -- you know you know he could ball -- and I exactly what happened you know yeah legacy. And probably the reason I never you know I'm. It took 21 years old you know you just being caught like -- can become your house yet constitutes. A good luck bill. The clean. Look it is configured at about Szczerbiak. You know bring -- break as well government and I don't know. But the senator trailer so yeah it was. Improper -- -- I like it there output when you -- I'm I didn't think about anything like you know all the things that I've heard about was. I was one and a first round publicly you were talking in the -- in the first route out of my only thing you know housing in my -- -- -- live my dream and in the first round -- it -- played in the National Football League but in all of that knowledge and you -- -- the second round and your own. Added everybody you wanna putrid it's seeing that you know what you -- -- -- great. Noon and night I said this yesterday but I just. I think about this a lot when I think about you when we were talking with you earlier earlier on. Before you started to comment on on a weekly basis so I didn't know you very well and I was curious about the draft notices a famous story and I asked you. So like for real did you take. Your memories of whoever you were playing not drafting you onto the field Sunday after Sunday like that they can't be right that you really didn't. Hold grudges like that did you and you said that she said well I don't know where you then. -- It's just so great like dude it's real. They're right I mean Thurman it's Israelis here it is just now. They did a list are running backs god. Knows when Houston drafted in the in the first round. Of all. And we're in the it would it would show my I would I look how real about the -- you know that has no memory and in no way and a my first yeah it would may be the first in a twelve game. My room it was a little bit and and it would be about. And 30 almost 11 o'clock -- curfew when. Home you know I would how pop video him. And and I bought it about the opposite opposite. -- that he would always polite. Is about it. Supposed to -- Joseph -- -- -- -- -- -- -- yeah you're going to want to do with me were like how could they could -- bigger at quarterback over you. I mean good things out folks yeah it would it appears that to me put it all at my rookie year. Legacy up to about ten or twelve games -- I think once we -- clinched a playoff spot. Home in August when I stopped watching -- triggered a you know what enough for the not a got a concert don't you know didn't took off and tried potential blow everybody yet but first ten to twelve games man I was. Eight the Washington at the at the hotel that we understand that are when I got home early in the morning -- chances you know when -- cut back on the keypad and it is so yeah it was. It was pretty -- it was definitely a motivational tool for me. We we are out of time here just about I'm just curious -- -- quickening fans might be interested -- if you have an opinion about anything Google's do this year ten. You know what. You know it's so much speculation out there I mean there isn't good I mean how light the guys who have Luke who would get a lot about Jerusalem. -- equally because he's the guy from Boston College that's why did I right now. That's your guy right there yeah and maybe he's a great guy and I think that you can go what. -- -- I've been done a lot of people whatever that number entry is -- first game of the season -- daughter. He had to be a start that's the whether -- a cornerback or -- linebacker position I think that guy has to be useful letters SOA. But I had big football season that they had you know is great possibility could go deep physical golf I don't know. But I like it there I'm just excited you know or whoever they are trick that they it was going to be an exciting year. What should look at the schedule and you're not already predicted 1011 wins. You know for the -- and -- to get into the player also I mean you can look at the schedule and but what -- and I think we don't know ask over the years the tapestry LP -- -- bulletin. Thurman this has been really fun and thanks for allowing us to catch up with you this way. -- happened to bring back some good and bad member of the people we're.
