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I'm jury here's how I've said it when we started the conversation I'm as concerned about him as their coach movement for that the government. Right now what it's putting all these pieces together at the guys talking when he talked. And even some other stuff that you're not read about the Paper that I can't really delve into much at all. And while -- how hard I don't know if your area eyes but I mean other reporters have said well you know. They talk they do talk to reap some players off the record. And it to me it's like the you know the Marist poll I mean they talked to 900 people might tell you -- a million people to thank them certain margin there. So this three guys now who have questioned his methods. Odds are there's others and it's a team of all week. When some guys guys and that's that's a little alarming to me and it's like -- think again in this league where. Hitchcock could be fired three times that the beating -- and a final and they too want -- has been fired they can't all be wrong there has to be. Some validity to the notion that a coach's message. Wears out -- from. With a lot of reasons change coaches sometimes the wrong reasons -- I'm -- at -- take this little different level in my mind the whole idea when he's message getting stale. My beginning still a -- -- and Darcy. Is there. You don't act got old because your -- mid fifties in that. In their professions but -- in one place fifteen years that was it like. Dog years to me. And I think they've been there too long practice on saying that think those two guys are really aging in their jobs. More soul than their real years and that might be part of the that is part of problem how I was a part of a pro. I don't get now a distant dependent they've been too long that the you forget just the very. Tangible things that don't happen and that type the team that they have and the fact that darts at the fifteen years Thomas we don't compete hard enough I just think that. It's getting old and I I think that. Lit Lindy needs to be refreshed the way maybe Ken Hitchcock podcasts and other times when it. We've talked about he's talked about and doing things a different way he coaches offensively and coaches defense that I think sometimes. You can make too much I think it methods. -- -- -- proving to -- failed as and particularly though with as it relates to the players and what happens to a group of people. In organization when they Knoll. That there's not enough accountability where their bosses are Teflon and untouchable. And I think that that's bothering these players now and maybe they should be above that and maybe part of the problem is the type of people that are sugar has put in there Lindy. I mean when Leno has a lot to answer for that he's saying he wasn't motivated enough early on. But he's also talking about some very serious things like team chemistry. Even technical stuff like passing from the defensive forward but also pieces out of place. You know things are starting to mount up here I think it's far is liberties laws the -- Really he. He doesn't figure out who should be sent -- who. Who shouldn't early enough. His use of goal these three power play there a lot of things there it's like. All right is not a bad coach but is -- this guy that. Every one. Anyone would snatch him up -- -- left buffalo them you know yet again you -- in here thinks so often you start doubling in the gospel how good of a coach is when your. And that -- players at Telus may be not as good as to thank. I don't like that when. And Patrick took over that time. It's it's disturbing when -- players start to turn on him and may be that the players. Don't think they can win and that's why hasn't happened earlier more often I mean you're Dwight Howard and Orlando and other sports you take on the coach. You got a big problem and those stubborn guys usually win out here Buffalo News -- the feeling. We Linda is here forever. Native right does wanna. One of the things I thought that stood out about the sabres early in the season was that they hardly ever looked like they were having any fun. And maybe that is in concert with this if guys felt beaten down or just. Like that he's harsh. That's sort of the justice yet that would work that's what I'm starting to get a sense now and not just from the stuff that's been in the Paper that there's. Maybe maybe his approach is not getting the best out of these guys anymore. And like that's the I think about changing -- because necessarily because they missed the playoffs because he hasn't won a Stanley Cup gives him not having won one doesn't exclude him from winning but. If I've got I've got up. A problem. We've been getting the best out of Thomas -- in getting the best out of Drew Stafford. Getting the best of Tyler Myers. -- -- It if I have a problem there at the big -- but it is I'm thinking about it more now that I have I have always thought almost like -- yeah that's my coach he's fine. -- about it I like that they don't change about him. I don't know this is exactly women. Who gets. Better on an island and I want to revisit guys that are here what happens. People like Taurus but when you talk about players that were supposed to have a certain arc of their career. And then get better and at 2829. And even Spezza seems to be reaching a level of maturity. In his late twenties certain that this. They don't seem to have that sort of career -- -- -- and lack -- run on the list but I'm Derek Roy Stafford panic that seems to be a little stagnation and that's what we're talk about this organization when I talk about. They seem to be aging on the job. This is a bit of a stagnation sports. The player -- -- -- shorter than you know the life of the careers 1012 years it's not like the real life one coach and GM and placed fifteen years. Maybe maybe you're not given enough of a chance to find out if other people gonna get more out of these guys. Mean look at I don't know what happened is happening in Philly their dates but that thing around. It seemed to have after. Moving out to guys that they give a ton of money to still look up and they -- -- six Fords than anything before how does that happen. -- -- one because they're more want to change things up I think I know I had one of ominous not to gain the upper air. You look up and -- there enter into rule. May 24 years old mentally Obama as the best player player and in the game he's he's getting better maybe he'll stagnate what do you can't panic at seven. Look the sabres have some talent. But what the flyers did that impressed me and I picked him anyway. But I was still impressed Giroux and you know this is -- of re air. They have guys there skill or talent guys really come off like they are driven. That's what I'd like about them their fans would have to acknowledge that and also say that they elected -- bottom Giroux. Right away last night he takes out Sidney Crosby yesterday. Just you know body check what ten was it in ten seconds into the game -- eight -- that you're here what -- levels at a bottom. But he EPS to play the pleasure and globulin -- game. Games that I don't know who -- now -- I want that portion that's not Hartnell or Sean O'Donnell. That is Claude Giroux and -- Briere is like that -- Briere is. Feisty and scrappy and he scores the kind of goals that for a guy his size to do it you know how bad he wants it wrote this today WGR 550 dot com. The competitive will. Our teams has got to. The improved -- has got to be better. And I I put both those teams sport the bills and sabres -- that but watching the flyers and watching rooms fraud -- yes. That's comes off to me they really want it now they haven't won the cup. And that you'll put that is they have won anything right there -- in the cup they won it when people talk. Got a lot to do before they change that -- -- decision impairments ever that that's enough for me. And you know what I get chills -- -- about drew one Libya and after a shift and -- and it reminds me of between periods two and three. Of game six here last year when. And Daniel career got up from the team said it's too soon for to deal and they went run out of that room. And they turn it and they won that series and they wished. Dominant in game seven these a lot of this in that was with some of the other guys but the core of that team and -- numerous. Clearly a big part of it they they have that and why don't the sabres have you -- -- when you refer to the fans liking that team. Maybe when we're talking about them not having fun out there and seeming to have the joy. Let's give defense some credit maybe that's what to do at the library that they talk about dot here at home games that the fans. Can pick up on that that the players themselves. Don't seem to be in join in this -- Maybe I won't either that I mean it it I think it it's a fact. Here gets a bit of a robotics team. Last year they came across and -- -- and it didn't seem like a real the enthusiastic. Team and you set me up here because I can't. I have to point this out in my column -- it was to keep that the key point. With what's his name Leino talking about thinking too much that to me was yes yes. Lindy Ruff players now seem to think think too much in this system it's that that's what with four seconds left the whatever. Makes them -- it's an attack on a guy. And instead the guy goes and scored 12. I'm I'm just using that as one example now but I thought often in recent years that they do seem to be tight because their over thinking right now. Don't think coach doesn't matter and as our technical but she's at some point you come of the join in the fun and just plan like your kid again and instinct where is that. Ride it game and that the the trouble with thinking too much and I would get to this -- Why is a guy worried he's thinking too much do you wanna make a mistake wise economy domestically and make mistakes in his team down -- bad. Doesn't wanna hear about it from news. Because -- sessions can be brutal. And like it if if that if that's what I've got. Again I'm I'm -- -- -- each beat like highlighted in safety board if that's it. That's the -- that's not a healthy that's a healthy situation and ownership like that. You know reminds via. A smile on. -- show on baseball's seven you'll keep it up. The boy and the -- yelling from the people. -- -- -- -- it on a bunch of little kids relax yell at them while I'm gonna little kid out of this team. Look this is so one sided a couple of things. These. The idea that a player. Can benefit. From a coach who is hard on them is there and there are players are but he's different and the coaches the genius coaches are the ones who can and get everybody right. Some guys need to be pushed some guys need to be high five right so there there is that and how much better are the flyers in the sabres mean their. There are better but how much better and you've got an evenly in the standings they were what ten to fifteen points better. Not worlds that are so there is talent here and there are guys who probably respond. Too rough style and probably also the extent to which this -- is his style is being overstated here. I just wanted the sabres to take the idea seriously. That if there were a group of players on that team who were fatigued by it and you wanna be hockey avenue I did this a couple of weeks ago. Then you've got to make sure your on this. And they just so quickly. Announced he was gonna be back. You know the regular talks about it like there's really just know any there's no updated fought to like is just. For all time conversation that Roth is there coach you know things change players are richer he's older compared with them to put -- saying. I just want it to be. You know investigated that's not too serious -- work and I don't know that it was I don't get the sense that they really respect this point. Maybe they do Jerry Sullivan is with us until six let's go to Brian on WG are going -- And it. I don't I don't oppose it can put up what we've all been through fourteen year but. Shortly going up 40 -- here and there wanted to humiliate these players decided to bet. They suddenly realized they can play back -- back -- have to do other things that are being. In this system to read each year I don't know yet they have but it's like suddenly. Only -- -- you know they go looks like swap that brought the last -- -- the treatment -- thought well I hope they -- -- where the money and of the player beat you -- -- I know they lost four of their last five. What happened two years and -- and it is curious that that they're they're more streaky than a lot of teams. This year I'm. I've come to the conclusion that media. They did tune him out for half a year and then when he didn't leave. They got some people back to -- the injuries were faster although I will point out that. And Elaine -- using an injury excuses but they. They woke up in their brief that the law of averages they Adam wake up at some point they played some teams that didn't have a lot to play for the put a lot of backup goalie their goalie got -- -- And I think they said this coach isn't going anywhere. We're gonna get make the playoffs but in the questioned the bigger issue to -- is what happened early. Along with injuries two years enrolled -- this team just didn't show up and you are at a lot of games folks. Down there and it. When there wasn't a whole lot of life and that team that building -- -- -- have a lot to do with -- injuries so some of that has to be Golan. Coach all of that also the pressure comes off when there was far behind. As they weren't in the odds were so long that make it to bed -- Mean you're talking about pressure being applied internally and when your last in the conference with two months ago or thereabouts. How much of that is really felt 8030550. The number a growing number of players talking publicly questioning the sabres coach.