We sought out and we got our guy Paul Hamilton. For this segment talk about the bill's been covering the bills for a couple days. But we should definitely discuss these Cody Hodgson. Comments made by the Vancouver Canucks GM. And all our understanding is you're just finding out about them too. Okay well weekend we can wait or we can do it now and then just -- your first reaction to -- that's our right. Mike Gillis the Vancouver Canucks general manager said quote Hudson. Didn't want to be and quote in Vancouver. And went on to say this their clearly were issues that were ongoing. I spent more time on Cody is issues than every other player combine and our team for the last three years we made a determination that he didn't want to be here. We've built them into something we could move. There were six young players that I would have traded him for if any of them were ever made available. One was made available the trade deadline and it was -- About that it's -- I hasn't sunk in or anything but. Let's just let's just ask you this ball. From the short time that you spent with -- and covering the team after the after the move. On did you ever ask him about. His time in Vancouver in in this kind of context or just what kind of read did did you make. On his with his wanting to be traded if he if you could tell. -- the first summit medal and then at the hotel on Vancouver one Leo when I interviewed for the first time. This was all brought up a lot. -- if you wanna be traded or whatever the Vancouver cannot -- weight they gain very very well -- -- rather take a lot of time. Coaching their players and how to talk to the media. What to say why not say. And -- He. Would never really give you when he answered your question. He would never. Let the conducts. You know everything about the kind of slows people I thank them for -- that we -- their time and I while playing hereby. I'm real excited about being a -- now and well if you want to be traded. Well and he you know he would go on I had a great time in Vancouver that's all the website they recovery at the question. And and always just say thank them for what they did forum and he had no issues with men. Any issues that they did have well -- just not worth talking about. You know that. He basically answers any question that you ask him with the same answer about what to ask him. Right hit it. It and and I know Paula think gum I think Mike might have been a wagering that that that part of the season the sabres were on that western trip. And I talk to you that day when you talk to Hudson and I know how I felt coming away from that is that he probably asked to be traded he's not gonna say that. Because the way he answered the questions he never denied it he just didn't Monica mountains say he did but it. You know and it is isn't any kind of indictment him I would just say to me was pretty evident he wanted to get a lot of their stock to be honest beings and that -- Well that's what during a training camp I guess he'd never good training camp at some point. And just got -- by the coaching staff. The head coach came out that well you know I've heard him blame in. You know it back for training camp on this -- the other thing. In -- really gave him a hard time to the meat to the media and public. Basically saying that you know he's looking pretty easy way out type of thing -- obviously and I'm sure didn't like that but once again never went public with that. Just basically look at and but I agree arguable but I think -- it's also done I just don't think he got along real well out there and went over this sudden done he had retreated that he. It I don't think you'll ever given to -- better. Well look I don't know the exact nature of the climate out there but. They just got beat in the first round and the player that they got. -- and didn't matter at all to them he was bent down the stretch sat out games based at the end so well on I'm assuming. That this Mike Gillis gets lots of questions from reporters and might just be tired. Of getting asked about Cory Johnson because it doesn't look yet like the trade really helped Vancouver I mean that's pretty easy to say. And a lot of people say did that help to savor that red. Some writer in Vancouver said he wrote -- I did not -- -- something like. Hot it was -- for 44% of the -- goals are scored since he arrived in awful. Whether west you don't go -- killing penalties or whatever. And that he really. You know it didn't do much for the sabres either of those people think the sabres you know really one betrayed Italy over the conduct so. Got so it's. They're excited for two years old I mean Caspian. I could probably play more the -- my body would. -- I'm not willing to say he's not going to be a good player I have. Quite honestly have no idea it's gonna have to -- the little more than he does now but what he's 24 years old team they gather. Some guys do it some guys don't let. -- I remember of people already say what do pot pot that was weighted scored his first seven great gains here. And it's like really. You've watched him play seven games any of that many points -- points here at all they already bought. If it's just like Obama. Sorry sorry just to give one more hockey question -- because this was supposed to be a football slot with you but. The bulldogs saying yesterday I'm more worried about rough going forward than ever -- would be your reaction of that. I think hasn't really changed I think the community -- with players -- saying demeanor he took. You know pretty much since he's been here I mean he's a tough coach who doesn't mind getting -- players based system might call them names. Some take it better than others that there are people told me that he destroyed Demetric Alina. But strategically it did have an opportunity to be a good player out above average player in the league but he couldn't take although the weighting that would be -- gave him. I can't tell you that sure and I think Demetric played until it went back in the lead up to that question. So if if if nothing new and I think that's the point of Thomas and it was making. -- is a pleasant. It's that happened -- that -- here so why would it change change and that was just pick of the deepest and everybody's soul. Coach sent away visit and the researchers Stafford says we got. He does get on the hard and he does that you know what I'm the person I am disabled and off the ice because it would be rough. So he give -- credit. You know the person he is so I guess it just depends who you -- do. Okay now back to life at the stadium with the draft a couple days away. All with the veterans there are you talking to them about the draft or just about their conditioning. That the offseason at large one. Try it but they did really well we've got -- -- well -- gotta do what they think that you know that kind of stuff well. -- you really want and those fruitful conversation where. Don't even -- -- its Patrick you know you've got this receivers and I know you'll what -- receivers would -- the -- with some speed. Opposite. Stevie Johnson a couldn't get -- it's -- to that question -- public what they have to do I'm glad he's back and the receivers you know just what you would expect you know forms -- so. Really -- notable one of the world but interest in talking about the draft and maybe what they'd like to be added to their team. They'd all I would imagine did have some comments about what's already been added to their team in the form of club Mark Anderson and maybe most totally Mario Williams what dumb. What what stands out from conversations you've had with with any number of guys up -- last two days Paul. I -- this this thing and there was no official attendance they commit to talking to the players nobody there except for maybe one or two guys. And that has just throw voluntary. For the most part weightlifting. -- on the field upper portion -- you know around the field activity in what -- -- up there -- can have had done or whatever. But they felt it was important not just. The bonding. You can visit -- Fitzpatrick to be able that is talked to his offense and maybe go all the things for the coaching yeah they can't run routes and pro football with coaches but. That doesn't mean Fitzpatrick a crowd of about football and go somewhere else with this receivers and and and do some throwing get on the same page with a which he's done before you invited them downed Arizona. To be with them to do some -- also practicing of that type of thing so. I think that is -- Important that everybody is here even know they don't need to be even know they -- necessarily. Doing football practice but I. In other start to get themselves in shape and getting themselves ready for this season. And I -- -- felt ready for a cease and that they feel. Have to be better than last year but he mixes of -- -- saying that they -- field say they let the team down about themselves now with the way they finished last year. And now. Most feel that's unacceptable not that they do they need to do more to make sure that doesn't happen again. And all just done. A couple of memories if if you can on prior drafts we've been talking today about. Head scratching bills' draft moments in there there certainly and our feud that come right to mine. Do you have one. That stands out maybe even from since you've been covering the team. That stands out to you is I just can't believe they did it. It's the running back thing you know the constant. The station Ralph Wilson as with running back I know Marshawn Lynch was is there. And then. Eric they've decided that Marshall what Marshawn Lynch did was okay with them and they had no problem with -- okay but you know I. About a comment on that. You know I think you're running back swearing in. The quarterback position was in good hands with Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch as long surpassed -- issues in the that the person you -- I just thought -- and those ridiculous and I I don't I don't care what Spiller becomes a hero. Zero to do with that this is the senior and so much. And then they're out -- that that was one position that was that. And then they're out they're -- running back is it just makes me. -- associate head bit worried. What happens what then rolled around and running -- the best player available. I think another running back. When we talked about this one day last week might you might guess the question like what's the worst case scenario come draft day. And I said that somehow someway not that I would predict this'll happen Trent Richardson falls to ten and they take them. Like he's probably going to be great right but like just please -- please don't let the other running back act. Yes they drop further back with the wind is to draft wide receivers -- I don't I don't think they're going to break it would if you just that people want the six that's just stuck out that. You are by far I don't think is the worst Austin bill sister highly resulting in the bought the winning a web page use them. I'll put considerable thought because. You know we're here I got the head coach just last last year told me that he you know one of a bunch of times anybody say 20/20 five times and -- well if you can't use and that way you basically dropped the -- And I think you could use them that way I'm not convinced that you can't eat duct convinced that you yet but they're coaching staff that -- -- -- -- -- all of the all the wasted back. -- -- Big game tonight -- doubles. Yeah I -- I was so boulevard the other night that game without behind definitely we've had a lot defined as of as like. Go well at circuit. Knowing the book -- keep an eye out that this the first game that started in. That's just the series. I mean those are two themes of road hockey for years. I suppose they've played some exciting hockey during the series but is just not serious about enables the idea that. I I would like to throw -- theory by you guys may I may have mentioned it to you bulldogs already. Here's my theory and the answer -- I've watched a lot of it I decided to -- Jersey win the east Jersey nationals might my cup finals. And a wash it wants -- mile one. The -- a lot of the series here's what I think is happening Florida. With -- the big name players really anywhere. They don't have what would Jersey has which is a star player at least one but certainly one in -- truck. That just at times looks like he's not plugged in almost lazy. And I think Florida looks like a team that doesn't have any. If you will any bad influence like that that that's probably sink too much about all the talk that isn't quite fair. I don't think it is my -- I agree with you I mean I don't know what they signed coal truck that was one of the things I talked about and I go back to when he plays with Russia. You know and get in the big games. Russia's once the metal with him on the scene but it certainly was meant very little to do with them. I just think Jersey is they look like they are slower and less enthusiastic than Florida and maybe. They are following. Which they would do without even thinking about it the lead of their best guy. Who is just kind of floating along in Florida doesn't have that guy Florida's team is a bunch a cast offs. You know guys who were as we said yesterday about the sixth best player right there's a real on articulation for those guys to continued their careers to make this run is best you know today there's a desperation that line that. Maybe the doubles guys don't they simply looked hungrier than Jersey I think so. And the reason why I think of all the teams that are left in the U. -- did get a laugh about it -- stop just carpet as. I'd like to fly epic battle you're you're you're -- your fires. No I have Jersey. I Jersey in national but he I had the flyers in this series and in this pool. Just having the flyers over the penguins can go a long way. -- -- -- -- I had basically it is just -- a bomb that whole thing and with the penguins the black -- -- You guys as it is for me and arguably I enjoy. -- -- but Greg's agreement look at that anyway with probably make it my way way way up pretty quickly. -- if Boston wins tomorrow -- have no players left please -- -- Step aside mr. Phillips no players like well all I don't -- too -- -- You have fewer than zero into too -- it. And it's. Inherently more ones the ones double what greatness if you've got the guys. -- -- -- originate or something like that degrade our side bet have a bushel apple. -- loans that calls and then -- know. They give all they care. I think zero double -- yeah I think that's right it's one more than. Depends on the weather do you feel bad for Chicago and all the Torres play. You know just had a big big -- it was a good it's hard not to mean he got suspended point five games and -- has put some other guided gold like -- energy guy in the maybe get the odd goal whatever but don't they didn't have one of the best players were expecting to. Yes well no I game three game three sorry -- they were 11 at home now. I mean that's that's it's it's why you don't. It's why I get -- -- about the hits it there's the injury factor in the real life consequences for the I think it's. And the -- like just a guy gets knocked out of the series and if you don't. Take -- suspension seriously. Serves. Where's the incentive to not do like the instead of -- -- but I I -- is he going to be hated him in Phoenix here well.