How are you doing way to the way he had he had put through here. -- It would lower but -- -- I'm glad it's over yeah. Maybe he would talk to me about just being accustomed to high temple -- and just the city that you guys would. Run out there. I love that. Because. The advantage that he gave art team as the game wore on because we were so used to playing at that high tempo. And that pace as the -- We've played against Scott -- the third quarter fourth quarter came on -- all the other teams would be slowed down or be dragging and be very tired and and we were just gonna hit our stride and it was a great play against guys. When they are like that. Kids are often. We really got to open up the playbook these things that were a lot of on the and I wouldn't when we went into. Little rock and played an all star game. You're off target I want you the guys I played against. That we were so not used to. The temple developer model -- after every up -- -- the -- for every effort to happen. Getting a play call from the sidelines in -- it was. It was almost unfamiliar like I didn't know what -- to be doing double play -- and that run back -- -- excrement your editor of the next one and I don't remember -- we're we're huddling everybody back up we're heavily. So getting accustomed to a two minute drill in an NFL training camp really going to be an issue for you. I don't anticipate it being an issue now will be a quick look like -- milk. How will that. Translate in new way NFL regular offense though Leo during make you play that way along. Well we have our moments when -- We needed. Each time and we needed -- put drives together and and you know I think it always easier adjusting to things that are slower than trying to adjust the southern it's faster you know so. I always. You know I've. Firmly believe that and that and enjoyed playing in an offense it would -- -- that -- to have that mentality of plain facts first and then going slow when needed to rather than playing slow all the time -- trying to beat up when it was. A pressure situation. When you came and -- -- having you saw time at right tackle early right and then you moved inside it there right. First year I was there I played. I was the swing got inside that I'd left everything and then. My sophomore year I played guard all year my junior year played tackle all year. The my senior year I was plot of the play tackle. But because of -- in the bottom the personnel that we had they made this you know who made the change in my Kosher and a we need to move inside we need bigger body in the air we need more experienced back to our American it was his first year. And thought I moved back inside to guard finished the recipe that I regard and so I've played both of whom played on the left side of men like it that I went to that all star game and they. Wanna come into play center and access -- What kind of. When you commended the NFL the sixth round pick you up. Consider yourself an underdog coming into camp. No I consider offering equal you know I don't I don't know hole. Exactly how it'll work ever done it before but. An element approach it with the same. Same attitude I didn't the first -- ineligible to play it organ that it's in all camp for the time to -- yourself and to compete against him. The other people that are. Trying to for a spot. And from. I don't condone -- I've never seen myself as an underdog I. I'm confident in my ability and my work ethic and my knowledge of the game and so I don't. I don't. See it as. You know. Than any kind of obstacle being drafted later it's just you know -- have been drafted. Higher I would still have to prove Michael and have to make squad until after -- show up to camp. Ready to go learn the offense then. You know gel with the other offensive lineman and so. I think all things -- vehicle once it's time to play football. But it NFL -- I was feedback from them in terms of where they tell you sitting up front at at this level. I heard it all in all -- most teams. Army as an end and all I played interior. You know play guard. The most so when I got packed up. By teams. You know they in. -- asked me hey if we drafted you -- we had a game next Sunday where would you wanna play I would always -- guard because I had the most experience there. But. A good time -- I. Never. Said no when my coach said hey try this spot try that spot than. I've been successful every spot I've tried to play so inside outside wherever where the coach -- elbow. There may have a lot of practice run blocking that offense there you guys are really known or. You know how much did you break that mentality indeed you think that's where your strengths from vehicle. Yeah I think it is one of my strength say they do a good job. Getting on blocks and staying -- blocks. We had say. We kept track of the universe organ of what we -- finish blocks where. You do that your on the -- your supposed to block when the whistle blows that I. What the -- But on the offensive line by you know by twenty I had. Putting more than an -- for the guy and become -- I pride myself on and that finish phase of the of blocking and and I love running you know the running game there I. I -- blocking from the Michael James that he was it he was for on the block four and elk. Hair -- and and Jeremiah Johnson and and before and we had you know job and secure so I've I've been extremely fortunate to block for some very talented running back. Which makes it you know could make it part of an out of alignment to have. That running back like that behind the block for. But what's your favorite or again uniform. The be all black group the most Fleming and put up a I actually really like the throwback. That we war if he -- -- California a couple of years ago. Just dark almost forced Green and yellow because those were my. Or my high school colors so it was. I would like boring my high school uniform at the universe you organ which was fun. -- your fellow offensive linemen come up with a clever nickname for you like mr. Heimlich -- dear heroic effort they're. No they they had they are they already called me pop because. Have cute kids and I'm older than them and -- A more I would give him the -- Fatherly advice even though I didn't think it was at the time but then I'd say hey thanks -- I appreciate that. They we've figured added. -- knowledge. In that realm of fatherly wisdom that you know all followed of course to have but. Down at the Rose Bowl one reporter. Told me that the the Wisconsin newspapers and Wisconsin fans. Were calling me the -- guy and I. I told them that it's better than being known as speeding ticket guy or marijuana guy or at this -- an arrest it. Thought I mean you're -- big Fella did you have to where you. Significantly far across the room there we had to kind of clear people out of your way here where you relatively close proximity. No it was real real low key almost. You know people didn't the guy on my own -- didn't know what happened until it hit. The Twitter feed him and you know. ESPN ticker and I didn't know and. Happened because my wife and I were sitting at the table -- behind the guy and it was just kind of you know. For good is that it happened that way because we weren't supposed to be sitting there originally we were gonna sit somewhere else and when we got there. We told them hey. When we were here two years ago for the Rose Bowl they just status and that you know over there and Abu. We're not we like that part of the restaurant you know you can put it there again. And it's okay yeah we'll put -- there. Do they were gonna put us over with the coaches' families and and stuff like that is that normal player I just happen to be married it's not. Not anything for that are anywhere you know illegal about Michael and anybody in that of my wife -- part of the team here. That's so they -- okay sure will secure over here except when we sat down Mac and the guy. Spree before dessert. He. Got up and started. You know given to universal hey I need help but I think I'm -- sign him. One of the -- came over tried to help him out -- work and my wife said hey how do you think I think they need your help you better go. You better go help them what stood up and walked over and hated your guy nobody's doing it doesn't I do. He's stepped out of the way act that demand. -- -- -- -- All right thank he had congratulations thanks to procure.