Let's Howard and Jimmy how are you sir I -- primarily go to -- doing well thank you very much so is Vince Young were thick as the backup quarterback. Now why don't you think that's. Okay how bad our. And quite frankly is very within China and I know that neglect but let me let me let Vince Young first look at New York City look last year and the back. To Mike Vick and this young. Through an incredible amount of interception. Although the ball at least nine interceptions or something like -- -- didn't 12115. Throws. Good so -- judgment. -- exactly probably shouldn't. Problem well and put the ball out in delicately exactly groat Shreve. And what is absolutely hell hole in the wall in the back up quarterback. He was brought here to kind of restore him now and giving -- city unity in a franchise that's really good. At. That you know restoring and building quarterback. Witnessed what at what Michael Vick. And and young was so bad that they just is partly. Well that's depressing there -- I wasn't I just looking for a body that would be better than Tyler Thigpen to the bills that let me just I'll put it this way I. Let's say the starting quarterback comes up. -- say a broken rip the teams off to a five and you start all of a sudden starting quarterback it's a broken rib. But they don't wanna play the back up it's that bad even with a broken -- A losing streak the offense is terrible the quarterback's short interceptions left and right they still full plate Tyler Thigpen convince -- be better than that scenario. Well sure and probably one thing -- every -- what I bet more thing about that -- if you -- You know what they top pick in the -- that he was warm state premier. College player he's the guy who has won playoff game in the NFL that somewhere back in there at that did. Somewhere within good job but he sure didn't show Philadelphia last year. Now there Horry shoots from the start Vince Young at the guy who -- they're French. The day he got here by saying I'm you know it's a dream coaching. Which are being nightmare because the Eagles really underperformed last year finished Nate really disappointed. And in young -- was kinda used by boat owners. To ridiculed. And it motivation. It I would wouldn't just they dreadful disappointment last year -- Philadelphia -- being better well -- can't -- -- so that he can be better. That's -- figured you know what it's a flyer it's I don't mean your hockey team it's a guy who's not gonna got a ton of money I'd assume it's a one year fairly cheap contract though. Heck they gave Thigpen a three year deal last year and if he's if he's that bad of these things that you know a lot then you just get rid of them. Well okay. Then you have one or you're the bad backup quarterback which is what you look -- -- here in yeah. You're the only air -- back -- quarterback got to play a lot you know Mike Vick got hurt last year. Corbett starting quarterback -- hurt. Yeah I guess my question would be. We look at the list yesterday -- quite honestly not surprisingly that the list of available quarterbacks is -- far from stunning. And I -- said the option here is just not good I mean if they don't play Tyler Thigpen with the guys hurt I'll bring in young and think. I don't Andy Reid couldn't get it out of them that maybe somehow Chan -- in this offense they need to stop gap for game -- somehow they can squeeze some football out of the. Well -- I agree with your first grandma which is though the -- -- quarterback situation in appellate very weakened back. So bad that guys now being brought in airports. I'll talk with our -- either backup quarterback you know you know that that that's pretty well. And you don't get out of more out of injury. I agree the problem is that what you recall the school he's got a lot of flaws come -- big -- one thing that he's always been and developing quarterbacks and he could not get revenge -- And again it's not been -- ability issue and it's just -- well positioned -- intelligent. You are. -- know I think it it seems like that would be it. Like you said it's understanding the offense to any XQ with the bills on the duke and he handled the spread shotgun I mean the guy can run the guy can throw. But what about the football side of things can handle everything the -- Adam and executed whereas from what you're saying that promotes on the honest effort Brad. When things broke down in Philly just you know freaked out that were on the offense just ran the ball try to -- Did you know that wanted to basically the quarterback at that do and know when to throw it no one will know -- to throw away going to take Shaq. No -- try to read the news. And Vince Young judgment on that was worse there -- -- bursting. And that's the part that broke people -- because you know he played a close game the pressures are going to. Throw up this. Lollipop thickest intercept that we saw that too much. A quick flyers quest for -- ago. -- any chance that instant trading van riemsdyk in the off season. -- that well I I they were looking to trade him actually earlier this season before he got hurt. You know he missed -- the broken -- just came back. Yeah I think we'll you know the flyers are gonna look at the end of the year we'll see how it turned out the storm playoff. Let it effect played pretty well. They need to improve their defense -- their defense is all. On the and inflow and so they need to improve the defense men respect probably would get something so I think yes they they would they would that exotic which I think that might. Well Buffalo's got some good defensive players should appear prospects in the organization they're pretty deep when it comes to defenseman. Yet they wouldn't copper prospect because the fire that you know are we seem that they would want a guy who can step right in. Urban respected wanna get the step right into one of the first seek to detective -- -- It but look at I gotta like that the flyers might be might be ready to. Is stronger done like for good done. I charted his oh yeah prior. That it -- But I don't think you know we're gonna play him any minority partner. Try to go to wanted to -- recently just the witness stand and that noise in the life and so on were so much that it believes. Well -- that -- Hey Glenn thanks very much I appreciate you coming -- is always here in buffalo and you have a good guy. -- -- -- -- -- -- Well. On the gonna let that one go because some men's sweet home high school districts -- got let go and slide. Really if they want -- level accepting. Are you. Know we -- accurate but. Well I think we beat you lacrosse this year not football we'll send us a link thanks Glenn writes about as an act like radio in Philadelphia.