They Steve it's our Jeremy thanks for coming around disperse the ball. -- have me on guys start. We view where we were -- we were talking to George Wilson a few moments ago Kirk Morrison was on a show -- -- yesterday and Steve as guys who who didn't play the game we look at these stories we hear about players I don't opposites that are now. But we hear about players who are in pain and depression and all these things and some guys -- in their lives like the worst in the Andre waters. Why guys played football and is it worth it and I don't know I just I always wonder sometimes about you know the risks but you still go through it willingly Wear. Yeah I mean that's. -- -- -- a double edged sword there's no question the games it is rewarding in a lot of different ways not just financially like most fans realize but also. Be it senate challengers it does. -- -- great way to integrate winner in the respecting your peers it's it's. As a great way of life you know it it there's so many things about adult visitors that are fun. And it's something you've done your whole life as well so it's hard not to it to to pick yourself not doing it. And I think when you get to topple the the latter beauty NFL the process of getting there. -- out. Guys who are not like that if there's something your personality doesn't let you play when you're not hurt -- when you're hurt. So open your personality that. There's you know make you shy away from contact with yourself and your personality that. You know and is a problem for anything that you do in the NFL. You'll get to play I mean you just you can cut you don't make the -- that you don't get invited to camp but you don't get drafted that kind of thing so by the time he -- the NFL. Most of those guys have the same mindset that you're talking about you know there. You know you'll take the needle that means it's gonna make a play. You'll do what it takes to get on the field even if it's not. A long term Smart decision. That's the kind of guy that gets there. But note now when you played. We didn't know as much as we knew about it to the head and concussions and all the stuff the researches a lot better than it was when you play. As you learn more about it as you hear stories of guys that have taken their lives or had a lot of issues after football if you worry more about what happened when you play. Yeah I think a little bit more about it the long term whether you're -- now it's gonna come back and get you most guys when they're played well you know when I'm where I'm. Sixty year -- impacting my -- are really going to be bothered me and Adam both worked on her. You know -- -- can be problems or you know whatever I mean whatever injury you had you think that's what's gonna linger on nobody really gives too much thought about. You know concussions come -- back in all the sudden. You know you're having trouble functioning in everyday life because of the number concussion had that there's no question that it happened. And I'm sure it happens to normal population is just that you know the concussions they get don't get document it like it -- in itself. I you know what you're interesting case study here Steve because you have at least one son Luke played football high school and and went on to college as well and plays. -- do you ever thought at all about not let any of your kids play football. No I I they're going to be -- -- -- no I didn't. For me even now and it just born alive I think deposits far outweigh the negatives mean it did into the game is such a great teacher of life skills. Of blurred teaching kids that is -- about then there'd be part of a group that -- part of it. But the team -- willing to sacrifice for greater good in those are skills that. Other activities outside of academics do you know don't teach you. So -- and you know it's interesting you bring up Bradley thought about it. You article that my kids decide for themselves the although he knows that when they're little and that it is prepared you have. The great deal of ability to talk amid an out of things that they wanted to do -- but I never considered talking about playing in any sport football included. That -- connect in the game be safer Steve that the league is the number of things were just talking to George about that Goodell cracking down on hits to the head. You know the concussions. Medical evaluations all they've they've done a lot of positive things can they do more. Yeah I think they probably can't and they will. That the is that you know they're still they're still move towards and I think you know Belichick says -- you know I mean that they may be moving towards taking kickoff out of the game. And people -- cry about it but I think in in the long run. It will be good for the players is saying is they move on through their life but I think also will do things for the game that will improve and make it. More exciting to watch I think -- -- candidate in the more passing. More scoring. You know there's a lot of things they can do. Which you know and in which their -- probably sure that they've been talked about already. To make it safer for the players. Because of space and -- is the league wants its best players on the field all the time because that's what people want to see. In the states so they can make it for those guys as they have for quarterbacks in the past years. They don't make that way for everybody in the in the league want to that was so they'll they'll figure some stuff up they can do but there's always going to be a physical nature is there is in every. You know every pro sporting even basketball's a contact sport. So well -- that it. It's hard not when you get grown men playing for keeps in anything. It's hard to take the physical aspect out of it because they'll find a way to put it back in and and that's what the NFL up against and like hockey and basketball whatever the sport. Steve tasker this year and WGR as always Steve thanks for taking time out thanks for coming ominous and sharing your thoughts on this. Yeah no worries -- great talking you guys think you're Steve.