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6/2/2012 Sports Talk Saturday

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  1. Mario Williams25:54, 2:15, 2:52
  2. Derek Hagan37:42
  3. Buffalo Bills0:45, 0:57, 2:16
  4. Kyle Williams7:20, 7:24
  5. Vince Young6:13, 6:22, 9:37
  6. Anthony Davis11:13
  7. Mark Anderson25:54
  8. New Jersey2:03, 2:05, 14:43
  9. New York Knicks11:47
  10. Super Bowl13:39, 16:16

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About the programming -- 305588550. To 550 if you're outside. Western New York I know a lot of you listen on the iPhone -- the android -- we appreciate that if you do not listen on that you always. Wanna have the ability -- -- -- WGR make sure you -- download it. From whatever story go to I tell iTunes store the android market wherever you go get it. Make sure you download the app also Debbie GR 550 dot com always we are online there and you can -- the program wherever you are. Call 8030550. -- why -- on the program with your voice and comments or you like text as well -- taking your tax by 3550. And that's where of course always. At -- sports we appreciate I appreciate the follow itself sports. We are talking today about a whole Pope free stuff. We're gonna get into some Buffalo Bills talk here because OTAs opened up. Earlier this week and they will continue and training camp believe it or not is just around the corner. Buffalo Bills wide receiver Donald Jones joined got -- Larry now hate how what is up a -- talk -- But I doubt I'm doing awesome now how you do -- how is. The recovery -- know you had a couple injuries last year the ankle and a couple of setbacks you weren't able that. Finish the season on the active roster how are you doing right now how is the recovery go. -- good government group you know. -- percent column. In lot of other great future but it is the practice you know integrate -- You -- -- let let open about it. Do you feel any effects of the ankle -- idea do you ever. Are you scared me but -- Donald to the test they're pushers everything pretty much got your mind on your radio on a percent. Mom mom I'm definitely not percent. I get debilitating. I got all that stuff. Way back and I -- you know I'll turn it back in the derby. Well that one -- are scared to do it it didn't work out there now what. The good news is real I know that you're from the New Jersey area and there were a couple of games in New Jersey last year course at the jets at the giants. You couldn't take part in the -- you get it right away off the bat. At the New York jets' new quarterback Tim Tebow over there new defensive end Mario Williams here for the Buffalo Bills we get a chance to go right back in the meadowlands and player frank here. Your hometown fans how does that make you feel. Man I don't know -- there have been -- -- it's well. A trailer. The play to do they come on we want to -- and I know. That there's gonna be a great feeling you know how are. Battle on their family. One ticket them I'll let brought everybody won't be good again but it'd be great front or whatever. Donald let's talk about OT -- is a little bit you had a chance to see. You're -- newest offensive teammates has been a lot of them obviously but the two with the most buzz would be Mario Williams and Stephon Gilmore. Let's talk about all of them on what you saw out of lemons from them. I do you go against Stephon Gilmore a practice note GA is at all and if you do what kind of a corner is -- what can we expect. To see from him as ours -- style play buffalo. Oh -- bigger more typical corner I let you get it and -- you. A lot of government. Unrelated Victoria are well you know -- use that Putin is as Canada and I don't know MRI. Am I gonna get much parity that is yet are an element -- -- and I wanna launch. And you know of course that the -- that battle but. -- just by the rookie Donald. None are definitely have to lament oh but yeah yeah who is in Columbia go they've -- is no way he should be. The good guys that can cover in a bigger here nudity cover. You know some pride and they'd need big what do. But Mario Williams is -- the specimen. On the field as he seems when you just watch him from a far as a football fan actually when you get up close to on what is he like. I mean it is. Now I -- get a trip to be a mother of a mile a little bit. Well I don't know and you know he's quick off the ball. And you know he'd let quarterbacks based very know about this and know. And the -- same way united way and of course let's say every time look at write about so it's. The defense should be good look -- bad old -- It's an old beat -- to lie -- -- -- it -- know it should be a big kind of how much it. That's good to -- and of course Donald. The offense still a couple of big free -- resigning takes its extensions -- resigning Stevie Johnson is back the number one receiver in of course Fred Jackson in the backfield. What does it mean EU as a player on the offense to have that core group. Come back together. They know there's a great story you know we we definitely feel right. You know coming out of it -- -- -- back so. You know we -- no offense you know we have a few record book for the most part we are no offense so we know we're trying to get done in and -- until creative outlet we have you know start from day one dollar and the most basic bank dumb because we are you know are often so you just there's a definite advantage or. It's getting a lot of competition at wide receiver Donald I mean you're gonna have to. Get out there and do your job everyday talk a little bit about the guys in the mix for the wide receiver spots all weighed on the depth chart. And yeah I mean you know that. Every year and an Australian competition Levy. But he first round guy. Or you're creating you know every year you have to prove yourself well. You know we have some some depth at receiver and not a crook is determined to figure out which culminated -- you know you gonna go well it'd be -- -- competent and very welcome back and everybody speak. About it or. Talking McDonald Jones Buffalo Bills wide receiver got -- got a text and attacks like somebody wants me ask you about. Alex tinian I was actually just about all the quarterbacks Vince Young specifically. Outstanding. The new guys coming -- we know it's like you know it's like -- caught passes from. Ryan Fitzpatrick now for a couple years but what about Vince Young coming in and then the rookie Alex and how do you look. -- Ricky Hatton did it has served well a bit murky. Well I'm not sure I wrote that I like about cents. Com -- you know that it didn't look good you know you don't run an offense though you know what he did outside. And then another beer and where to put the ball everybody. In Atlanta hip to be. Be great com. Whether all of these children are pretty -- -- is very also look like the -- down at your own. Well enough if there were pretty audit people -- I doubt that you did something this week that you -- crossed over you took Parton batting practice. With the trial blue jays you're and Scott Chandler and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kyle Williams. Now you got to be proud. -- home run the Kyle Williams hit four -- acted that guy do that. The I think I -- you know it showed it hit the rely on the stand. Probably what the played this much people they put. It definitely you know he had the slaying of a bit later. Well let's let's maybe he would tell -- that's good baseball schooling might learn some things there. -- -- -- -- -- A deadly -- that that allow. You know I did you walk and one out. -- -- I met bit doubtful on the right there went over -- Like senator. In a minute here I'm sure I do more foreign money. I've got -- that you worry baseball player high school as well I mean if you're a pretty. Highly -- a baseball player high school he ever messed those days playing ball. -- -- Well when -- -- not suited guy didn't like 200 should be named anti money. I'd definitely admit though they're not -- a local bar. I wouldn't -- it. I guess you know crawl back -- and and didn't band practice you know it definitely. -- bad memories from you know we plan over and say number and date but. Don't put on the bill. Now thanks a lot man. Enjoy the rest of your offseason what are your plans between now and training camp and I got. Ought to be here a little bit but what are your plans -- training and -- going to be for the rest of the summer. I want to be -- great -- created our. I'm gonna grow in -- back -- LP turn him into an eternity. You know I have if you read out of roku. So that it -- it properly but -- -- did much better. -- right now thanks opera giant transport stocks Saturday to end. We look forward to you about him back next year being on the field and now we -- of course the Buffalo Bills working their way toward the playoffs in 2012 -- -- Dow Jones. I that is Dow Jones wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills and it didn't -- talked about Vince Young be so tall. And throwing downhill you know the all feel that I actually when I was in high school that played at what was then rich stadium. And it was the old -- on the field. The crowd is obviously when that when the water hits it rushes down they they have the drainage system now it's more flat they have a lot more better ways of doing it. But the old crowd he -- some fields whether it's high school college or. I'm not get -- guessing probably not much NFL these days where the crowd is really really high and talking you could be. Three beat your quarterbacks sitting in between the hash marks you could literally be three feet higher. Then a receiver on the sidelines so it's really interesting to see how all that. A thousand in the guy throws that sales over your adult time. That's my experience so he says he had eight. Interesting work -- catching passes from Vince Young. And they -- is taller and so the ball's coming out that's got real urgency for those guys to catch the ball all the -- and get its moral flat surface that they're playing on the field house. 83055888550. To 550 are south of pot -- is a sports -- Saturday on WGR okay. Open up a can of worms right now -- talked about. Something that. Probably a lot of you believe then. But don't really necessarily talk about a water maybe you do with a -- your circle of friends. But I'm not one to actually go that far as far as this topic and that is sports conspiracies. The NBA college draft lottery this week. The New Orleans Hornets won the draft lottery. They're going to select Anthony Davis out of Kentucky. -- -- -- basically owned by. The transfers ownership it's happening now basically the 08. A lot of people said before the draft lottery the hornets would win -- ball lottery because of this. About the fix being. About David Stern making sure this happened. A lot 1985. A lot of people said the same thing when the New York Knicks. Were able to get the number one pick and draft Patrick Ewing. Believe you -- a superstar New York they got the best guy coming out of college summit about the fix was in that. So whether it's the draft lottery. Already is games. How much do you believe and the -- lead actually having a hand in the outcome of events. I am not talking about. Bad refereeing. Poorly officiated games I'm not talking about that. That happens. I'm talking about actual hole. League conspiracies or referee conspiracies. Where they say we want this team to win we're going to make sure this team wins. There are examples all over the place at some of my friends -- all people at the station. We'll talk about the call up and -- I should take callers Twitter I get it all the time. I have a friend in Florida and all of her friend who's been around. Sports longer than I have who insist everything is always fix that sports. My response and then why do you watch. Why you watch that everything that. Do you think everything's always fixed. Watch your calls on this. 8030558. 8550 to 550 stay online if you're getting your calls and right now about sports conspiracy theories we got a phone -- start to light up a wanna hear from you on this. 8030558. By fifty to 550. Do you believe in sports conspiracies how much do leagues actually control what happens do they give an edict to referees do they somehow -- it fix it. What does it happen. Especially. Do you believe it's happened to -- Buffalo's history of sports. There is somebody on TV who once said. It was their job to make sure. Bills never won a Super Bowl. Do you know that was I'll tell you who that was. We come back anytime that -- got sportier WG. Loaded they're gonna give -- fifteen this. I was there was -- wanna go down to nothing series. Now we have to -- the same level of desperation Simpson level of energy that number out of good. -- -- -- -- He Stanley Cup we haven't even discussed the Stanley Cup we're talking more about football has salary of Dow Jones Allah while ago -- like the Donald. For coming up program by the way my apologies to those of you tweet at me about asking about -- -- actually catching passes I know he was actually -- contract by the bills but. The whole point was just asking about new quarterback so my apologies -- Didn't mean to go there and infer the fact that he had been done that I should know that he wouldn't be catching passes from. That being said the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs. Are in the finals obviously and the next game is tonight 8 o'clock the LA kings any one nothing lead. Against the New Jersey Devils actually expect the devil they still expect the series goes seven that's and I said not too long ago. When it before it started and I actually think it is going -- seven also the NBA. -- Why -- -- conference finals. Royalty both series at 21. As far as games the heat to one right now or the Celtics. After the Celtics in the big win. Last night there next game is tomorrow at 830 but tonight Oklahoma City tries to tie the series up two games -- Against the San Antonio Spurs a lot. I -- believe that belief is rooting for a certain team to get to the finals. -- rock or this part because of markets because whatever. Do you believe that you'll even sports conspiracies how real are that. Can you give me an example of what you really does believe happened. Whether it was Ewing though and first today it winning the lottery than -- -- a lottery to your viewing. The hornets winning the lottery this year the legal team. The bills may be suffering at the hands of a man on TV. The X-Files. The smoking man have you ever heard this guy. You're watching X-Files I was a big X-Files me. The X allows you up a smoking -- -- -- like periodic appearances really controlled the universe. He met with subordinates he discussed his orchestration of the Anita Hill controversy. The Rodney King trial but he also ordered believe they're not in one X-Files episode that the Buffalo Bills. Which can never win a Super Bowl -- further reveals. He dropped this Soviet goal keeper to ensure the outcome of the miracle on ice hockey game in 1980. The smoking man is behind at all. What do you think about -- sports conspiracies Dave. You're up on WGR go ahead days. Thank you take a call I can be and the commissioner -- -- know you know let it brought out this manipulation district. Actually what are sure they net about involving about certain -- never -- -- -- but commissioner stern you are the best in sports I'm all right very -- particularly -- stability. And parity throughout the week regret it you know we're -- -- wonder people realize niche yet architecture and. You don't put -- sure we keep this didn't happen managing -- -- entourage and direction they're like the. I'm not a guy -- absolutely look -- championship he took that there are apparently no legal talent but nobody each generation I don't which. You know all the BitTorrent what's such and I got the first but now it's senate Democrats don't -- you know the all star -- a record -- About destructing. You that you got you know the normal and still Bible that the corporate image. Up with the lakers you know an and you get so much charity all but hey it's throughout all you know gently. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't want. That tell all on Dave you say you know there's conspiracies tell me one if you believe actually has happened in sports. So I'll be more guys to beat boxing you can poke fun because it's an individual sport and you know which that they. I can look we can often I didn't shoot and stuff like debt. All. Our esteemed sports -- too many guys to give manipulated to expect a lot of OPEC you know the commissioner Ed B David Stern. -- and stability in the week because I don't know I would acting like normal course under. In immunology and good shot about hour an -- you know I don't know -- -- -- -- we brought by the I want to see a lot of debate I set my cabinet. Thanks Dave but you know what -- actually brings up eight point that you can use against him and say but that's exactly why. The commissioner ray -- if you believe it for the hornets team player to win the lottery he wants this parity doesn't want super teams that Zardari may get that market up next a -- -- to mark. You know I. I never wanna move that quote conspiracies. On in pro sports. Happened but I think it was -- this uncovered it discovered that. I'd be true. I would not be shocked if you -- to to be now I need to think -- that it could never ever happen. And as far as the -- buffalo sports and quote conspiracy thing there are times in the hockey in hockey I think there has to. That may very well that there is because you know I think the Buffalo Sabres have been Gary -- biggest nightmares since he's been commissioner there's no question about that and. He just -- at buffalo for having the highest local market ratings. And the skipper of the Stanley Cup final. I understand that -- -- I knew it and at every run in with them has been bad but I would say that we get bothered John what Google -- and that's our goal and conviction that. And I want to go do that watching game. Which recipient of the -- could not tell the -- look you've got a ticket to the game. Sure they could I just think it might get up thanks I appreciate it but here's the deal he brought up the John LeClair noble to. That's bad officiating I point it in my view that that's not. It's not like a -- saying hey. By the way make sure when there's no really goal in this game at some point you calling -- that's -- talk about there's bad officiating. And then there's intentionally before the outcome of the game. Or in events elite get. Air power saying we want this to happen. The smoking. It has set the bills are never what is available -- that show was canceled a long time ago I should do luckily it was -- out of that thing. I don't want to the excellence do you believe what the smoking and -- Saint John what do you think about these conspiracies John. -- are there -- -- -- New York but back in 1985 NBA draft these huge and well secured remember annual conspiracy it's very wet. That they they put the water -- there was ice cold so when stern touch that one envelope that was the next envelope all right. This is supposed to graduate because it was cold. And the other general -- at room temperature and that's why didn't expect -- and you'll theory are. I remember now -- and I'm Bob yes in another part of a conspiracy I don't believe otherwise. I really believe -- -- -- various. I'm but they did I I you know I wrote that a coincidence why they changed the -- you know lottery for it from envelopes straight on well. Well I think that the perception of a conspiracy always allows for change if that makes -- It's it's it gets perception and it's I'm just joking around more -- it it is true they used to your envelopes. And now they used the same bombarding auto lottery don't make -- a little more. You know John a lot of people believe that the guy. NHL lottery was fixed when Sidney Crosby went to Pittsburgh. And I let her calm about it a lot better than the right what are. I -- was to best servers another very bad you know they. Well like -- -- usually come to I think I can't remember it was a mutual back and let you know that Pittsburgh wasn't actually -- a lot of people like you may need indoor arena. Let's get -- because there -- now they have a new arena so much I think good -- It's not what I I think I can't believe what all the money in sports now. You know at this conspiracy -- you know used to be where a player rake and a little bit more than teachers and doctors. You know Mike Gilmore. But sure make a lot of money now. But now you're talking about thanks John -- you're talking about the gambling to -- things like that we don't wanna go down that road look. I am all for good conspiracy theory grassy Knoll JFK. 9/11 read about stuff like I'll have read about what entertaining myself I just can't get there with sports because it's too -- for me I don't wanna go there may -- I am naive but. We'll get to more of that and then let's let Tom -- who has a very special -- getting by with him at auction direct top. Thanks very much sell we're here at auction -- USA's first anniversary week and events that 5485 transit road near Poland's right across from -- and joining me right now. Is bills wide receiver David Nelson David thanks for joining us pledge that. Obviously OTAs starting up this week just in general how things go and so far this year ago -- good. -- the first week we wanna see guys give effort wanna see guys comments fly around not much you can do physical lives out notes DA's through his chance for us didn't shape. You guys out there right around so you can make plays and seized up with the effort out there last year we miss OTA's in this mini camp and so this opportunity for us. From iron get better team in two to -- against him. I know it's only been a week but vs last year when we have via the labor negotiations do you feel it helping already. I absolutely. He says you can get to come together with the guys especially for us receivers get together -- -- And Vincent Tyler the other guys and just keep that timing down just to playbook in. To work on plays we did last year. We've already gone through so you saw me play as much you wanna correct and fix for this year so we're able to get to sit down together evaluate film. Go through practice laughter and vote for the ball out there get someone that evaluate the film -- practices and just get better as a unit -- is their position does that every day you know -- and it is just can't put it this is and how important these days are and how much it -- and what we have. You mentioned working as a unit and yeah I know I saw you signing someone's picture before the goon squad picture with you in the other receivers. A lot of us expected to be competition for us some time that receivers this year do you feel any of that competition right now in OT -- -- more about training camp thing. Absolutely. In on that that you have to have competition every position at all times and it did it it makes you better and you. It really stepped racing. The play makers from suggest he's going to be there. And average right now guys -- Are working hard they're showing they got. Same time we're competing with each other were also rooting for each -- are also helping each other out and that we we tropical close -- -- the guys with the unit and there's still the competition the same time guys helping each other -- make sure that we. Are helping this team and head in the right direction. I'm Tom -- here with David Nelson bills wide receiver at auction direct USA's first anniversary weekend of -- 5485 transit road near role. And David right now there's a lot of guys on the roster. You came in as an undrafted free agent and you know compared undrafted free agents around the league had a lot of success so far. Do any of the other sort of undrafted free agent guys' turn to you and say you know hey man what's your secret how do you how do you work your way in this way. I don't know if most of them know that I am undrafted -- note you know that's on this talked about. But I have had a conversation a couple of guys and now this year -- last year or not I charges you advice whatever I can't -- -- everybody situations different and obviously I came in here. My situation differently guys are coming in and now. And you -- should give a piece of peace of mind of what I went through what I did get to where IMAP. My mindset. And just help and I recognize that way that you take -- one bit of information I give them kind of help them and helps and succeed. Know that obviously you know -- I I was hoping and on some -- so I. Everybody story's different understood -- open and do the right candidate help these guys succeed. Lot of buzz so far this off season Mario Williams Mark Anderson all this going on have you noticed a difference in sort of the atmosphere during the off season this year as compared. Well especially last year when there wasn't much of an off season be talked about. Absolutely it's crazy how you bring in -- couple of people. Through free agency completely just give the guys just the the confidence they need to single out their duties do. You know guys are excited. We re in love with a front office doing for -- we felt like. Front office giving confidence our team and and and we're we're excited and -- there's definite buzz going on with the locker room and were really excited there were guys running around -- -- give them and they haven't you know that you just happened -- -- I've been a -- TA sessions. A lot of my team on my friends -- and OTAs and they talk about. That's how they do things and don't -- the way we're doing things a serious different and it -- ever heard ever ever been part of so. Got a -- around underfoot and how to -- effort no opinion I think it's gonna translate into the field this season you can see you. All the work you put in was worth it. -- well hopefully all the fans will be. Justifiably excited by the time their season rolls around I wanted to get you out on us sort of a non football -- I've been following you on Twitter and I know we've been talking a lot about some. You're always involved in the community around here we've been doing some special projects lately and I understand lately recently went to Haiti. For some work there was wondered if you wanna talk about that a little bit. Yeah you know I'll live with the organization called core of this organization back home with it's clear with my church and is -- -- and opportunities that I've always wanted to go to a mission trip -- the country in Canada's help anyway I can't. This opportunity that was just the right timing the right situation and now they -- a memorial weekend. -- -- -- There's about six or seven different orphanages. Spent some time these kids you -- the soccer balls while some food you closed down. -- kids don't have anything don't have clothes and shoes. And family and so this go down there and has spent time with them and just kind of tired right now dale little bit and will they note that they have to brighten my day and just going down there and see the smiles -- -- known you when you -- -- -- car. And you walked the orphanages and if these kids see you. They hit their run into you with no clothes on -- of the -- -- -- -- extended -- when you hold. And that's all you need is what's but it care forms of -- of films and love and is definite life changing news experience for me and I can't -- back. It sounds great did you have a police firmware listeners can go -- wanna help out with that. Absolutely -- dot org -- you can buy shirts you can donate money -- a -- -- these organizations don't know. When he -- know how the money's handled I actually witnessed firsthand the money being transferred over into these accounts of how the money spent. On the money is used for it's been expenses not used grenades used these kids and she's fund houses and -- she's on the through these kids. So I can honestly say if you go to -- loved or. That this this money's gonna go specifics these kids and help close and -- these kids in and try to make this those kids -- next -- they can. They -- David thanks very much for joining us thank you much that's. Nelson bills wide receiver here at auction direct USA's first anniversary weekend event 5485. Transit road near role. Talk about helping some kids around the world. And today he's been with some kids here at auction direct already cited few autographs plenty of people here. Come on down 5485 transit road near -- sale let's go back to you thanks -- -- great job as always we're gonna hit the break we got sports coming up. We come back we'll take more your phone calls on the conspiracy theory. Topic I guess the theories to distributors how much you believe nobody comes to sports how much they're being controlled by. Forces above the game the team the referees. Do you believe and I'm well how would. The Buffalo Bills are sabres a particular buffalo sports. A conspiracy theories and a -- this -- joins us we come back we'll talk OTAs with -- here -- every -- Sports Radio packet. It's all a conspiracy. They got it. So we're talking about right now -- in Rochester what's up John. John -- there. That we lost John judges call back but -- -- you want chime in on this topic we'll talk to norm norm MX and heavy GR. Get the guy scoots up and up here. All right we'll take it that all the unarmed helpless body all -- let us. I went out to get norm John gets a call call back your I don't know exactly what I pressed right there about to get back to those guys and then anytime we got. Joseph the scale they were trying to get on the line as well here and a major Sports Radio 515 we will do that. -- as we get Joseph online we'll talk to him about. The Buffalo Bills and OT gates in just how things went down at the stadium out there this week. And. Guys get after it first time that we see Mario Williams. -- bills uniform first time we see Stephon Gilmore really any bills uniform going against. All right let's cause you got -- and I am here tonight I hit I hit one button and I dropped -- college hopefully I got Joseph here. -- -- -- -- -- -- Or I don't know like I I don't know I dropped a couple of collars and now it's a conspiracy Joseph that's -- Happened to see or talk about conspiracies and I -- often at the wrong button and all of a sudden it's a big conspiracy not to get them on the air Jodi you believe it. In sports conspiracies that leagues or in any sport it may be had to control over what happens. I might be naive but now not a big conspiracy here I'm not I'm not all into it and that's sort of well. That sort of line of thinking up more a more just been evident based person who wrote. You know pure speculation that that's usually how I approach things. -- need to do but I may be naive as well because here's the deal. I think it I don't wanna go there I don't want to believe that because I did why would I watch -- the only thing really true in life anymore seems to be sports for me. -- even with reality TV isn't really real anymore you know I mean -- Things that they plan in there and actors and directors and things like that -- I'm with him a man but let's talk about something that Israel very real that is OTAs. Last this past week at the stadium you were down there all week give us your impressions. Good -- maybe something they struck US on the they'll have to work out. Kind of run the gamut for us. Quality you know the only data that we were repelled a lot practices as well on Tuesday the other two sessions were close to the media. But you know it's it's just early then. And if you can't really take away too much from a few days just because -- the first week of you know organized practice isn't. And they'll all be wearing helmets. They're not willing shelled groups is -- -- these sorts -- that that's about it them. We can't really get -- typical. In these types of practices. Been talking to Dave Wannstedt yesterday I left my question in particular about Stephon Gilmore because you're when you look at South Carolina never really had fit. We put that put to jail right poor people live line of scrimmage. -- -- -- -- them how long ago learning curve it it would take for him that people are culpable that is so well you know -- so common training camp could get really put. -- -- -- and then get to the degree practicality that that we don't want to. Because of because of the holding it in place to biblical -- bargaining agreement so. If it's got to take certain things the way I mean obviously can see how they're throwing in the and and how bad guys they're looking. You know TJ glad it is very very fast and and Leodis McKelvin without him a couple of times and any -- strike -- strike him very. Leodis McKelvin veteran so -- -- you -- -- that the collective thing you can take away from it and a and it really not too much too much delta can't read in the things Cuba. Then I had a decent Debbie GR 550 dot com about Leodis McKelvin and yelled that the -- -- gonna give them every chance this year I think they should Joseph I mean. He still on the team and let's face it as I've said many times and I know you agree that. It's really just about his ball skills not about him staying with a receiver that's been the issue with him. And it's plagued them -- entire career and I'm not even just his professional career that play commitment to hire college career and everything -- having him. Probably going back in and fighting. They're fighting you know scouting and prospect of videos or what -- -- I happened -- stumbled across Mike they are back in 2008 at the Senior Bowl. And you he talked he talked -- big game but -- put this in the article to. He it. He's being tried -- -- -- all you can see the quickness change -- direction that acceleration. But he always there in the caveat. The only thing he doesn't have a ball skills and then innovative and he was absolutely right -- they're from what we've seen. Now I will say with Leo this. There is a certain line of thinking that I'm not going to completely discredit that that there is. You know -- gave -- his second season and it really look like at the end of that rookie year he you'd turn the corner maybe -- -- -- The -- of becoming a pretty solid player for the bill that at cornerback. And in its -- game that they were second here. He breaks -- stick your head and he's done for the people of -- Cotto is is progress the bad absolutely. Then they kill all the momentum -- activity you know it's a legitimate question but. I'm patient he'd come back could it doesn't seem like he's really. Taken that next week then. And I mean he's he's -- to -- open and assure you there for a single card although every single to what she gets -- the well the and get lost in the play in an effort you put over time and that happened a few times but. By and large write with a guy in to can't make a play on the -- that general I mean every time I -- don't. You know submit a comment that you know to need to get by and they'll all just need to get my hands up and I do that then I'll start up without them and they've while production and and as it's -- is he gets their production and lower. There they'll start spewing a -- in Iowa so they wanna see that he application is vital year and a cup rookie contract -- And I think they're like we're doing. Joey had Dow Jones out earlier we also -- David Nelson now a top six -- auction direct. Both wide receivers all the position this year where they got to really compete for spots on this team is wide receiver TUE most competitive position going to training camp. -- probably. I would it will mean wide receivers out there. I think defensive tackle is going to be an interesting one to watch OK here's the meat just to look at how many guys they don't listen and Williams are obviously going to be on the team. And I bet that you're blog network. Spent perk up and who's doing a little little bowl that let's -- the defense tackle a twelve troop. Alex Carrington to help and hurt while you all the optimism all of these different got Jay Roth is there to do. So -- all open different guy is that are fighting or petitioning and and you know. A lot of them. Played submitted last year Intel and hurt got a lot of time left you're there's some injuries to the team so. It's so I think that's going to be uninteresting position obviously receiver to I want that he would end up happening many receivers they keep will be six or seven. The -- that will do well bar will be Derek Hagan what what market easily make the team that that the big question mark who spoke. And I'm really looking forward to see how those two positions. By themselves play out in in addition to a bush. Joseph what's the schedule look like for the bills when they back out. Same deal upcoming week Tuesday you'll be the first session of the week they're. If -- -- going to be open the media media so up OP tweeting out some are some highlights a combatant and then Thursday and Friday we could. Because dispute with players that the practices at the -- and then -- conclude the week for the second straight week. I'd of course we can finally -- -- that EGR 550 dot com our website of course online Twitter. Joseph be underscored a BGR gel as always thinks you're not a great job man. It got to put herself okay that is Joba -- and we're gonna got you like John again in Rochester. John I apologize for dropping the first time which is so special I'm getting a chance to talking before I go to the next break which -- up against what's happening. -- so I appreciate your you know. The bill Golombek gold Beck is the -- the early seventies mid seventies when. Miami took that big winning streak he dances of over twenty games. Shula. The Atlanta rules committee last decision committees and -- out. There was definitely connection there in my opinion I think the refereed were intimidated by this guy. And I think that the cost that would -- Miami -- get over the conspiracy. And that and in the early nineties. I think coordinate -- -- -- -- -- other to build going to be yet powerhouse and -- dominate food NFL. They -- instituted some rules which will we -- Howard Ballard. End though will wolf -- we can't get enough cap inflation they changed the rules a little bit so we lost their best player so we wouldn't have a dynasty. Do you believe that leaks are controlled by people from above. All of. I'm definitely were small market plus. I think and there are some played pretty obnoxious. In its straightforward. And I think they sent them a lot of hate mail will be a couple offices -- it was a little bit going to go on their own state anyway. Thanks John appreciate it and I have a good weekend all right -- gets the clock we're gonna take a timeout when we come back. 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