Paul Hamilton. Old friend coming on here to talk about the bills in the Stanley Cup finals we can start with the finals we've been talking about it. Paul enters as my family leaves wife and kids here paying a visit. I like this move -- my son was very sad. To have to leave Newton loves visiting the station and seeing you when Reagan. Maybe and there's a few other people that he knows. And then. He's not happy to hear that it's time to go -- So I said Julius what we need to do here. His focus on the fact that you got to visit the happy part but not the you can't stay in the longer part not the sad part. And he the goal he whacked me he he whacked me he got the one to -- pole and an elbow right to the lower lumber our region. I thought it was a pretty. Reasonable comment the good try and try to present it like like -- like your like your only your compete there. The good level of computers clever right on terror has a chance. No he didn't do that he was five he seemed okay. He seemed okay were -- element here. Right that the old dad do -- out happy hours ago now. And volatile -- at your whole day. A bottom yet he's he's super awesome yeah that's nice music theory is Paul Hamilton who's been out with the bills today hi Paul. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The bills really no practice today but you're still writing about the they were to sky's own together and all their bills and Paul with the jump on Tripoli Tripoli dodge ball -- for the -- followed the Oregon a team building. Eight. The other aspects of the bill holy day -- this -- Not counting weekends but they're gonna get -- that a vote yea but Wednesday is their day off. Okay Brian Scott you wrote about Brian Scott today Paul he told a little bit about it in sports update earlier what's the basis of the story here. Well it's interesting. -- The safety value linebacker you're defense spending your partner what do you do now and he laughed at these up on the utility guy. But he practice with the linebackers but he really when he looked Saturday he thinks this is extended his career. You know talking about although Pete thinks maybe he'd still be in the NFL this change wasn't made because. It makes it. And where a lot -- now go back -- if they need them there. He gained a little bit on what he's got an extra pounds to play linebacker. Yet decided if he wants to keep an F five. Just because you know you're tangling more with -- offensive -- anybody to get a little bit. All year dispute that. He feels he makes himself more valuable by the bills knowing they can use that linebacker they can use that wherever any city he understands the defense better. Is that because see you looked at the defense a couple of different positions now and understand the defense better so. He's all authorities not upset at all that he's not a Sapient. The motivation for the bills to maybe ask Scott to do -- Scott being -- to do this. Would be right versatility. The value in having a guy who you feel can maybe cover running backs and tight ends but also -- And goal beyond -- play. If he happens to be out there because your thinking past but they decide to -- his that basically the motivation here. Exactly and inappropriate -- injuries kind of forced it. And then he started doing it and I think they liked what they saw -- -- -- -- he -- a little bit of it the year before and a lot. But every now many in middle linebacker the year before cute so. Is it it started to go and I think. They liked what they have a safety and they wanted to move on there but they also like a piece on him as at linebacker you. Obviously underside maybe. From from some linebackers that you would be but he's also -- and he nodded in the base defense. He comes and -- nickel situations or things like that. Different types situation -- would have been different packages. Paul Hamilton -- -- ball we've asked this a few other times but when you write about. When the defense of players -- inclined askew just what's your feeling about the defense overall -- there's a long way to go. But everybody seems there are a lot of people most people probably. Seem very optimistic about them what the changes have been. You know when you've heard me say so many times and nobody else hope like Russ Brandon in the Buffalo Bills but. I think it's more than just hope this year I mean I think with what they've brought in. They've changed defensive coordinators they got it means the defense supporting Dave Wannstedt has been successful in the National Football League reading the bounces. I think they brought in the -- the and they signed him brought him here they to a after the corner whom many thought was the best corner in the draft. But they drafted another corner. Later in the draft to. Look half bad at times either I mean Roberts made a couple of late in the OT eight civilized means so there was a lot of focus put on -- We and of course and a lot of beginning Anderson also and it also provides in the -- -- -- about this last practice than. You know you've got now what they've -- and becomes -- again. You take help the other of starting lineup Shawne Merriman tigers starter. Ford -- sit there and say. Out of Ali you know can we always count on him saying it's on the perimeter of the and we took Brady's gonna get hurt now if that's the case. In pass rushing situations you're not taking Williams off the field. And you're gonna bring Anderson and so there you're too defensive end we're merriment -- and you know. Joseph Joe's -- talking about that he thinks -- stand up. You know -- said that the situation. Anderson and Mario Williams on the yen. And you'll have very minute standing up the middle linebacker type in those types if you want all -- on the field the same time and why wouldn't show -- if that's what -- looking for an about. Rush. Yeah I most definitely want to mean if he were healthy I think I would I would wanna do that you know -- for the disable if they if they think. And we're talking about Anderson in Williamson -- guys who've always I think. -- -- always my perception is that they've always been guys coming off the edge. I wonder if they might think they could bump one of them inside the odd time in like in -- about it that way it was just do. They have little more interchangeable parts sort of thing in obvious passing situation. And they could try it and I think you might you might seem tried that. You might also see wanna get clogged up that there are two and and -- -- you wouldn't be as effective so. I think environment has taken some routes. As a middle linebacker yet she dropped into coverage and in one of the raps so. If it's something they're looking at something very. Because quite honestly. If you're just gonna stick to a defensive ends and they're calling it a lot from the defensive end spot and I know you like to what runs linemen and abroad one have been output. If you're gonna do without -- I don't see a point -- being on the scene because. You'd use this far you're rushing. Eyes are going to be Mario Williams and and Anderson going to be on the field without a situation. Now you know kind of felt the last couple years trying to figure out the points is being on the team with -- all the questions bottom but this is a different point now. Whether or not the the right place for him. By the way how far away from every play being an obvious passing situation you know as well. How far we only hold our web -- -- from that five years. Our credit say many times that that's why. The bills -- all that concerned about -- and playing outside linebacker which he's done before it -- career pretty good big man. And it going to be up amount on the outside but I'll walk the -- -- going to be on the field. With the way offenses are set up now and -- used the probably not all that much of him. I would say less than 30% is snaps with new. That number I was gonna guess -- letting -- I had this Decision Day in the ID 30% might be might be about the vote about it vs how many times the bills have five or more defensive backs on the field. I would agree. All right Paul did you run. I want to set you up for something on burn it because I know on Twitter real thing and I just felt I just felt like it was just. The bad taste in my mouth. Not that -- Bernie aided. Was in the penalty. Or that that your earlier hit had to be called but just like the fine line that -- -- all the stuff that the subjectivity. The just the way that the rules are often ignored. I don't know like it almost seemed fitting that there was such a concluding. Moments of the season. Although I got players the way that way to rule ignored. I mean whether the deciding game of the Stanley Cup finals or game one in October -- IE if if there's that's what the rule book is therefore if we don't want at least called the rule book and -- year old -- to say. Tripping will be called -- over here -- tripping it will only be called in the first two periods what it takes away a scoring chance in the third period. And write it that way and make that your role because that's the way we see it -- -- get a penalty in the third period you basically have to cut somebody. Put the puck over the glass or do what created -- that -- third period. But that's still and get called the matter what I'm but the game is -- -- in -- it happened in overtime that the California called the BB. Robberies have no choice so. That's the inconsistent. And and that just drives me crazy with the National Hockey League. Bad. Are all I want is when someone when there -- there rules violation. I wanna call and I don't care. What game it is or what I'm a big team it is. Well I wouldn't wanna compare the sabres to the Kingsley to sell it how can I -- king's right values made you do it. Ottawa beat Bruins how can I be the Blackhawks -- -- and I draft high four years ago when the penguins right. How far away at its neighbors do you think looking at the -- animated not looking at the rosters and compare -- player -- players coming but. Just like when healthy and whatever this offseason may poll mean you know it's not that -- -- to be in contention as soon as next year. No I think there's work to be done by the -- I don't think there's as much. I think they are often shown that he is an important part of the puzzle. And they need him in the lineup to do well the way they had most of their players you look at -- record. It was a fine record that they. So it's tells me that they have. Pretty good players that are on the way but they need to add to it because they don't have the -- because when those players go down. The team goes down and yet they went down -- -- I understand that there were teams. Where there were nine guys out and I don't know what you seem that's gonna recover from that when -- statement it's more than just one or two games up. So why I understand all that. But this still I still think they need to improve this hockey club. Look forward lines they need to be able. Generate more offense than and does he have a lot sandals -- didn't generate -- than me. Regular season but he certainly did in the playoffs. They were like two point 85 goals in -- revolt -- team in the playoffs so. They improve that and you listen to Sergio talking goes. Actually we improve that the last month of the season they were so bad earlier in the year there's that still point nine in the NHL. Yeah that's right the Carter trade did help with that the coaching change is also had a line of demarcation is to when they had. Better results that better results after the made the coaching change they'll figure. The coaching change in the coach wanted some Jordan Nolan and king were two guys that I think started playing. When Sutter got there like -- needed maybe a different style for part of the lineup and those guys played an important role for them Paul. Paul is a good guy for this question Paul is there possibly a more boring interview in the sport in the kings coach. I get the sense from this guy that you could ask him a question about whatever. The most interesting event in the world is that is -- about hockey and he. Maybe he might not know what it is surges would. Mikey just mumble some answer about hockey it's a metaphor to I don't know I just the sterile sauter did not. Impressed me as a scholar exactly. Yeah the only pilots saw an interesting interview with them was. -- -- tangle of former teammate with and I think they said they wanna -- a cup together. And daughter opened up a little bit the other things he sure -- and they laughed a little bit and and inside or even you know went back in. And talked about some of the stories as a kid and because he would ever in a place to be in game seven Ellicott just the way he. You've got -- What got to say -- -- -- -- -- -- so you know remembering how was as a -- imagining that you're playing for the Stanley Cup and -- you win the Stanley Cup and that's probably the only time I saw little personality. Jump into wanna visit -- views but it it took a lot of prodding and by that time in a little bit celebrating. You win the Stanley Cup as a player. Now. It would -- the papers poker try to block all he'd be able. -- -- -- Joan V please Walters he was a captain there are one. It was the captain and I'm trying to think what where he went after that -- once again I'm going by playing -- that's very dangerous. I I don't -- that -- started -- -- certainly didn't when it is coaching and Jose. Or in Calgary. You know there. The thing about him to me that I I think is interesting to think about with the coaching changes right we heard job yesterday on the -- we played a number times -- from Jonathan Quick. Talking about him and other players said the same thing we needed guided treatment -- I guess reluctant to paraphrase a bunch of different guys. Rapidly. Just beep harder on them to more demanding. All the players more accountable with Murray was more of a player's coach in -- more no nonsense. And you know I promise of the like that makes sense -- a soft coach and your team wasn't performing you've got a guy who was gonna take any crap and they started he started getting more out of them. The sabres don't have that problem but they don't they -- the they could use -- somebody to get maybe the best out of the players but they do not suffer from having a coach that isn't hard on them I don't think -- Paul. Yes there we certainly found that out at the end of the year by the way dealt but I did play an entire career with the Chicago Blackhawks. I'm -- look that up you're speaking style com. And actually was little why haven't -- to what is it looked at that I didn't help but yes they certainly have a coach that dumb. You know it is not afraid to get on their backs than. And in some cases be little lemon -- the team and that that's that's -- thing and as we wondered is the season wound down as the is that is that they need. It too far is -- taking -- you are so worried. You know loses the players a little bit they're so what do quiet look let's be fair about this and airport talked about it. He said he had zero problem with -- rock behind closed doors. He said what he does is try to make you about a hockey player. And he had no problem it was going public that he had the problem by -- Stafford said the same thing about you know he gates told that would be rough. Because any success I ever happened the national hot we would be to him he's the one. You know try to make me dual player and everything and you know he -- that he had zero problem with that. It's you know but it was in Roy's comment in his criticism wise taking it to the media. Essentially because Bulldog is also very kind to dirt Roy behind closed doors in private bulldogs is only good things votes on the air it's in public it's the same problem right. Here interestingly. OK -- questions for us. -- It was great thank you for asking was very good. It somewhere or at all. No he wants to play golf -- a little ways off I was seventeen or eighteen dollars it was going to be while. He doesn't have to be the same but it's going to be awhile. Are all talk us and hopefully. 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