the pre season through training camp and still just at Watkins. And Mike Williams to -- and all I know he's a good receiver. Anna he's he's had a successful and a -- at this point
Watkins was going to be front and center. I've my affinity for Mike Williams has grown over the pre sees this one and that's at. Fair way to put it I had some reservations about him.
camp it's all took a little bit it's definitely. Jim -- to Mike Williams and then the other guys with Hogan moving up a little bit over the course of the pre season. We have --