Today and he said what was the last time the bills and sabres were both this bad you know the bills are coming off six in time Mckelvin thing doesn't exactly. Raise the roof. And you have the sabres at forty ninth place. And he said really it's been ten years. And I said you mean it has been every day. Because sooner or feel like it's pretty much every day earned. In my just to too far gone. We first brought that I I tell -- if they asked when was the last time they were both good. It's inflicted Apple's own -- like a lot. But it depends that it definition that -- -- still very talented team it's just trying to find its way. It up. Sure about the batters and not a joke yard pass it in my oldest one way founder -- and on the road okay -- back watch and you know our. Basketball teams you know fail to measure up as usual -- I shouldn't be so tough one dollar and he's won two championships at. Really good in this town but. It's only part one years Levin going in March and all the teams -- better big man now and big tends to -- small best -- in the Nokia. Always guards running around. It's a different game it's not the same as the -- of these anonymous as many post the players went. -- get a real good big guy. And you can't defend in there or. May eighteenth the venue and you have problems does that of them you know applications still. Painted I have a right yeah now it was boom boom -- The flaws with basketball is unfair. If you're tall and one big guy doesn't seem like it's -- game. Well Jerry you were being sarcastic about the sabres would surely a lot of people felt that come through they like it. What are you wanna -- you wanna say. That -- got a bad deal. Because that's starting to come out now that I will look this team is the same old ligament. You want to get the Guy Laroche is one any -- for fifteen years to get the bad deal no I mean that these. That they made clearly they've made a mistake that kind of thinking here that because the sabres have not come to life. Without when he wrote my uncle Ron Paul has not worked that they made a mistake there. You're hearing that now. I guess that's Illinois look at -- I I thought he should have been all along goals side -- thought Darcy should be on -- that I thought coach is gonna change everything I just felt he should -- And does that mean the players are big part of it since I thought -- is a bigger part I think the rosters it is bigger problem in the -- -- and expect Ron goals from the command and and work miracles and 99 year. Paul talking about maybe it's not that good then. Yeah. When -- now ten games under 500 since early February of 2010 but what was it what's it gonna take. People think maybe the talent isn't that. Well here we go around around and. To answer your question or to try to what it would take is this season. All the way to the end. If if they have this season all the way to the end and they finish at or near the bottom of the league no one's gonna say they're. But there yet British vet yeah. Sometimes I mean it looks like sometime this effort I think sometimes them realizing they're not that good and that and that creates a very. Typical mindset like we're not good that good and and they look and they backed that up on the ice in but it it it is an effort sport to a great extent so. They need to recreate their roster and do with some of these other teams do and the fact is the Montreal's of the world. Can change it around and hurry and I guess the in a salary cap. Sport the difference between. Gooden bad isn't that that great anymore if it's such an effort sport and get guys attention making them be desperate I'm I'm here in desperate by the way enough. What's the other word urgency from this coach it's like he's just read that they muck mold and him to be. Part Darcy -- -- -- because that's what you get here and so -- may Deming unfair because that's one of the balls were slowly desperation. I'm just and tired of -- I mean I'm tired. Yeah Jerry I'm mom. Watched the game and it was on national surely I'm not I'm not. Gonna tell you that they can't actual. You know. Have a stretch of good games and climb -- I mean yeah I didn't make in the playoffs is pretty much dead media idea of them haven't any kind of a good run. Is horse is dead because it can't happen it happened the last two years where we were in in points in the season where -- -- -- I never at any point in the season that I think I wanna sell parts. The key man on the team. Let's freedom and see what I can get. -- they are now. I've got you know many weeks to go until the trade deadline and it. Make sense that you should expect to maximize the value of -- and galvanic in Miller if you were gonna market them. You'll get more for them as the deadline gets closer and more teams might be chasing after him. You're go to years ago I I would never entertain the idea treatments guys now armored editorial three. I'm ready to get as many pitches like he did and just build the team with kids and just Arnold workers this model is just not work. I don't want our -- -- to be the architect of this new team. Because the team he's put on the ice is what he should be judged by not guys that might be good next year two -- we're still Plame in Italy and -- in Rochester. He's built put a team that just cannot. Get out its own way. Yet be comfortable with him making decisions moving forward right you wanna make right -- in the calls at the deadline which. Mean he's got some credit for what he did last year alone the result of that doesn't seem so. So swelled to me and yes parliament building and a Camilla are all have to own as the core group in the same way that Gloucester and and Rory Conroy Connolly noted it's not like their achievements have been. And any great shakes because they have not won as a core group again you've gone back to the start of ten. I'm not a -- -- back to the summer seven you can do that too but they have not achieved anything since since they've been the courtroom. I'm not compelled to make an argument for for -- make a defense for Darcy. On top of what you're saying which I think is. You know ads are more important. Again it's like I felt about -- that the fans are just fed up. And the you only keep a guy coach GM whoever. You only keep a guy through a long period of struggles. If you have proof you're just all 100% sure you have someone so outstanding. That you can't imagine being better without them. And that's you know with due respect a laughable. Way to put -- here at this point. I'm sorry drifted off there at that you're talking about buddy next is there any other city like this if two teams if to. Failed general managers who sure going out the door with a coach and they're both still making decisions. The body -- may be deciding that Mckelvin is worth five million dollars to leave a year no wonder people -- depressed. The new year you may -- elaborately powerful. Really. These are the guys that are still making the decision just like. Mode Greg was in place for too long. And and Dick Jauron had a comeback -- coach into a season when he was Dead Man Walking and Lindy -- had to come back this season Dead Man Walking why it happened in this now why can't people get ahead of that it's a no no this isn't good enough. That's the way I would do what I wanna run Darcy went out the door the men and I got to the -- of all I did write that people thought I was a bad guys like. And I have a -- got to keep reminding people that but there are -- in right. Until I think I do well and in the world as. Talk about sports and write about sports I better be right once and awhile you know be a genius to see this stuff -- -- gone out the door. Packers he'd done the draft -- running back ninth overall was good wow. You better be good and what else is done the -- a single linebacker the paperback -- yet by the way as he -- them. I don't believe he's retired not while -- an excellent job. Maybe it off to get more -- and spray. Apartment with no I don't -- tell me I will help local multi talk -- you already well I don't yes I'm wound up I've been on the road and I'm watching. -- on these coaches I like them both parent and knowledge that they never stop complaining about the officials. The worst thing. We got to be a good idea BP put up press for a right near them -- might not put me upstairs listening to a -- from the press dollar because it is never stopped you know our basketball coaches that don't do that. They all do I mean look look last night Jim Harbaugh was so another -- goes -- and after it was horrible accused -- he's apologizing to cause later. Is that new product Indiana apple book and it's like it all in the always have to come and apologize later pulled up. Ever see people locally about the big time refused and -- -- candidate America to go back from the baseball I think the World Baseball Classic a -- Iran. Oh all right now also a mind. Awesome c'mon don't teach other countries about you should be OP tried to score runs your way that you stole a base of a fight for everything. That's why I am right now help let's. Bring something up that I like -- talk about my favor around the ball armament -- Annapolis -- and in crap from people I'm impressed you give people enough to do -- -- know I don't even know what the bill does that go along and people want to see the whole list don't you understand this and making it up. Elements that it's you know it's fun though you don't want to put like. What the band the band. Something else like that in -- -- really better than 96 the overall would you agree charter and I am put Iran are out of 100 -- somebody. And get under the solvency and managed and run and had a great it's like the -- ID six. Frequent like. Enough to classical. -- on the black groups women -- -- did they wanted to and where we're. How many Europe not live albums people like you put greatest hits an -- don't know what I'm talking about out there. When asked. If you'll love the greatest hits album and was to look it all the time why can't be won if they were comfortable with argue about this. I okay. Mr. music -- -- -- you're o'clock this can be one of your favorite albums not wanted to. The best films ever made it's not a multiple that it is my favorite OK and you know and trying to pick the best out of all time you you -- -- -- looked -- I'm just not gonna respected news Joyce. Very much at all I would not -- got -- problem -- -- integrated live album. Well I don't enemies to -- to document have called me now at a particular time in our audience argument I think yeah. I felt like. About -- -- -- I just pretend to be met by a debit and tell -- they were all nine innings and availability thing you know availability session. I made everything too except for the fact that I just did a week spring training. And it feels like never done that's what that feels a good person I've never -- and is sitting with a beer with all I'm behind first base. Bats I don't know that raid on Friday got on John had a way better than -- -- talking about that evil we will be don't. And a vacation -- talk about because you just that's what that's a definition vacation you're up here talking about and Roth cramping the right call and unveiled there until there with a room. A bit of the first base line just behind first base watching Josh Johnson mowed down liberate anyone that there. I want -- you want it to be producing games on TV down there. -- It's amazing that sometimes like I was in ninety says they -- there and the sabres playoff I was at Disney World and the game was. Do you remember the name. Some obscure guy might have been the only goal ever scored scored. The -- -- playoff game Ronan. I think -- who was in 1997 or Billy -- came out and had grown in overtime goal that unit packed admiral and him. You should have no enemies -- -- Canadian concert -- here's Chris with us Chris -- good. Guys are generally agree lot of I should have -- a lot I'm told us under our thirteenth. But because 1999. Are our bookkeeper at the development the buyouts and I think we are -- up front here. That was their. You think. That's. OK well that's that's filled out now. I mean I'm no less and less reliable accurate 2004 the bills were. Pretty good at the end but he didn't make it there pretty good and it was like the hockey. -- everything just. The last thing here is like a medical back away from god and where they're good yet your opponent of the nineties Gerri can you defend this Mckelvin thing at all. I was I was stunned by. Look it's it's about returning kicks -- I was in the car it you know. What are those special teams stuff ever done to them we just up thirteen years about the playoffs. The Calvin leads the league in punt returns last year and and in 2011. They lead the league in a opposing kick coverage -- their own coverage. Roscoe Parrish. Legally -- putting two years and early third -- sixth. The key -- kick returns at all five he's third no war. And on their web front of five or six years in a -- their winning all towards the Dallas unofficial kick coverage award and they never win. Any thing. You'll get a guy five million because he's a good return our -- bent Doug Doug wrote you know the history -- team it does you no good I'm sorry it does not. So. He'd better make yet he's gonna come and compete for a starting job at five million a year thought that world champions. Just get rid of the guy with the best wide receiver in the playoffs had a touchdown like every game including the Super Bowl and they would pay -- six million a year Bolden. And you just paid five million a year. To a failed cornerback who happens to run back -- congratulations it's nice that they see things are changing around here I hope you win the Dallas morning news. Unofficial. Kick coverage special teams award again next year and go six intent is that that your best that. What are going to be -- going there to listen I should have a greatest hit -- Make them album the greatest specialty plates and bubble builds history in recent thirteen years and sell that. That's what they're silence are. The punt returner is worth more if you can't stop teams. Yeah you're good the rest of football like the -- -- who knows that not only the nose of the niners were go to covering -- we -- -- have -- -- the other more important stuff -- patriots nation on the kill the kick return -- with the -- the -- quarterback can score more touchdowns -- the -- more about the returning until we kick off. Think there's any way to look at that -- I should load this would would anyway. New coach. New offense new quarterback. New defense. New quarterback. Maybe right sorry. New new defense new -- to starters all over the place. Like. That's a bit of rebuilding team. But I feel like you who center affiliated them bottomed out yet. But I think they're going to be bad. When our agreement I think we got everything that many holes. -- then and there seem it's gonna fill six holes and get them all right. Well. Other teams to get better to I've read USA today was all teams in the money they have. Miami's it's gonna sign wall listens somebody and -- signs are on other teams get better that's of people around here forget. And the bills have their twenty million but I was still. They've still got money left after Mario Williams a -- -- I think you're right I think -- look at the 412 next year or worse I just don't see him getting better. I'm glad they brought in a new coach and everything it tried to new things they're gonna have a Maryland department eventually. Whether they're -- good they did have one Saturday when they had this happen well what. I don't think about it -- have -- I don't have an up and running right that's right there's a diaper free agency and the draft and by the way what well. This is that the criticism of the coaching hire like I I I'm I'm I like what they're doing I think. It's -- would be bad out for a year at least wildly trigger to open holes I would love to think their bottoming out on purpose again. -- -- Johnny football again yet but that they're not having that they they think they're gonna be good probably and I don't know how this -- was on fire 8030550. Is the number lots of topics including Jerry's. Music tangent. Matthew color as the update will be some stuff there it'll be fabulous then we'll talk some more call us Mike show -- -- --
