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    WGR Sports Radio 550. quick look at the Sammy it is incomplete. Well covered by curious way at the forty yard line at filling complete Sammy Watkins walking to the buffalo sideline with mark he's good with coming up. Once the train is cleared him to play I was excited about it because he hasn't really played now since the first quarter Pittsburgh. And he really did play a lot you know before that as we plan on playing him alive. In the so you know he really haven't played that much and I I always get concerned. When when people come out and I think you know especially when you're a rookie you we've got to play just electoral manager and this season. Yeah it definitely. But nonetheless you know let us I went to breakfast with the ball. Kamal you talked to coach goes down to a good job so. good morning to sell bear with me I just saw yesterday and Todd nick released their top 32 prospects. So I'm seeing watts potential players might be available around 32. The bill's gonna look at in because. Now it's too soon drafts are all he still not well I'm thinking 33. I'll I'll I'll I say it not excusable they would have to. We and then they'd have to get that actually because they won't have that pick. He died and I'm thinking which player will fall to the first pick of the second route that's what I'm one. They got Kiko Alonso later this vertical or are you trying to planet. Maybe the maybe the bills are worse than picking that's actually I think over time that might be true. Anyway good morning Jeremy lights up a pot she'll Matthew great news the phones are up and run and we upgrade were ready for you. The football team not so much of an upgrade the pre season finale if you didn't see it consider yourself. Fortunate. Which says that considers a fortunate they were shut out at home against the lions. Six times they've played lions in the last ten or eleven years they have not once scored a first half touchdown against that team in the final pre season game. EJ Emanuel went in was on impressive didn't really do much sandy watt played. And got hurt again. In the same spot same injury. Which makes one think maybe the bill shouldn't have played Sammy Watkins which is something that tell when I set all day yesterday. Go that way topic of the show yesterday yet I did enjoy getting a bunch of tweets hey hindsight 20/20 in this case for site was point one. Don't play anybody that's important especially if be their. You don't have. That I'd say if you can go back and actually listen on demand audio at our website or on the app that WGR 550 dot com. Because that was the topic of the show yesterday Jeremy bolt said. I don't wanna see out there I don't wanna see Sammy out there the risk is too much greater than the reward in your ego here's the risk. Now you have seen every insert here is your star rookie wide receiver who you. Moved a whole heck of a lot to get who looked really good it can't all year who's coming off a rib injury and then going into the season pre season finale. He plays which I I just I didn't see any reason for him to play. And now here we are holding our breath hoping. He's gonna be ready. In ninety days in Chicago in May be well he might be maybe it's just bruised me going to be back next week he's gonna get a full week of practice and and OK everything's good but still I don't feel comfortable right now where that situation is. He'd better be OK for Chicago or else that's on. It's either on the coach shorts on the trainers. And I'll listen to either one Ron says when the trainers cleared him declared him. But. There's no reward in raising the risk vs the reward there is no reward to point him in the final pre season game there's no or any these pre season games. Many rewards in the regular season lately for the 8030550. fired up early here is my pre season in review and obesity yourself pre season in review But are still looking for another backup quarterback because Jordan Palmer was as many expect. Horrible. And when asked if he's happy with a player Jeff tool Asian number two last night that said no. They're gonna look for another back we'll see who else is up there still looking for I'd be surprised tools on this roster being they're still looking for one or maybe two quarterbacks. They played Sammy locked in her and he got re hurt in the same spot which is mind numbing leak The coach says it's important to win games and that they played a win them they go one in four. The quarterback. The starting quarterback starting offense gets zero touchdowns against starting defense is they play him in a fifth game in an attempt to get chemistry you're god knows And they shot out across the board. There is. Where you can imagine anything about the fight and the. Blowup and all that stuff that it Fisher. I was just I was I was only golden out there we go back to the Decatur or some other things that went on as well how is going to have with a pre season the pre season games in review there it is. So lot other than that. How to go. guys think. Pre season in review for me is. I am far more concerned about the offense in the quarterback that I was not I had no concerns I did. Of course but. You know you're you're thinking it's pre season. We know that and they are by the way they were last night but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't you be able to move the ball. On basic football plays you call they should be better than that they work and I'm concerned about this much more than I was. Hey they can go out there in Chicago and do what they did a couple of years ago which was look really bad in the pre season offensively and then. Put up over forty points against the Kansas City Chiefs in the opener they did that a few years ago today that it actually know because. I'll play right now I think Chicago is not very good defensively their front seven is. Appears to be slowed me when I watch I think there they're right to at least get run on but. This quarterback situation has a lot of people worried not just the back though the starter as well Jeremy last night he missed a couple of throws he should I had once again. And receivers should had a couple catches don't throw that behind woods should be cotton you know that's another receiver that used to be here it's all day long that he's not good and off. Would you catch that ball here's an important stats and I mean this this is important. The bills last year gave up 300 yards. To Washington. In the pre season with Rex Grossman at quarterback. How the defense do better than that. Right they did not get. Chewed up by Rex Grossman's they give a place but the point is 300 yards in the end and the first team offense of Washington Rex Grossman. So what does that mean for the season nothing. There are lots of things that mean nothing for the season. I I've your post game last night and you and I are 100% like. I would get on your shoulders and shout with few. Don't call about Nathaniel Hackett it's ridiculous not not about philosophy hopefully come on it's it's just you you can't sound more ridiculous. But you wanna call the head coach and a lot of his philosophies. And the things that he does I thought Matthew set it very well. It's tough to believe that a guy that. Makes as ridiculous a decision as playing Sammy Watkins last night. It's tough to understand that the mindset is his answer although I will say this his answer I thought was. Somewhat fair is reasonable he said. Wanna get in chemistry out there with Vijay Emanuel I guess. College players walk out of the field don't need to pre season they just play game. You're about Sammy Watkins adjustment. Like we see make it all these highlight reel catches training camp. Any needs to play in the fifth pre season game what's the reward he's gonna catch on a time where they're planning on targeting them. For like do you really make the case that he's gonna develop. Chemistry in a game situation against the lions second team on four targets in the course of a and a half for how long. They might have plans to play him. In this is compounded by an. Jury if if he had really no injury issues with a rib. And he had played you know a normal amount that he should play in the other previous schemes against Tampa where he didn't played all against Pittsburgh came out early. I would the president is much of a question I'd say well that's what the whole offense is doing but it's compound it for me I think it's coming off an injury. I mean he was just one week removed from that injury that's what bothers me even more about this I will complain about a about one thing. Because up at the velocity I'm not complaining about no one should it's ridiculous I gotta tell you from up close last night. There was hardly anything going on profits are pulling guards things like that they were you what they're doing. Winding up an I formation it's going straight forward and saying just go be your man and let's deal we can and that's fine if that's what you wanna do pre season. Don't complain about it though is a because if to me you know you just simply don't know what they were trying to do last night or in the pre season compared to what they're actually gonna do in the regular season I want to. Gripe I do have though with the to coordinator is this. Three games in a row now that Sammy Watkins has played. That you sent him over the middle and he basically got. Completely demolished almost three times and now theory is nursing again getting pictures baby guys and say well. I'm not gonna send a wide receiver over the middle that he can handle it shouldn't be the NFL get that I totally do. But the first one against Carolina the safety keep the backside and almost took out his knees. And then and that was scary enough and you're like OK I I I get it but glad nothing happen. And then all of a sudden against Pittsburgh crossed the middle boom he gets hurt because the guy. Has some sort of weird you know play against him and then last night again across the middle linebacker comes in and it might name safety to go back and look and just. Completely destroys and it seems like Put a big hit I say I think that packet should have been smarter than that. In the pre season on how you wanna use in Iraq and that he's going to be on the field at all because he doesn't have the choice to not put on the field admiral says he's playing and think your But at least he does have control over where and when he gets the ball how he gets the ball in the situation. Well they've got a call their Vanilla plays in the you know the chocolate. In strawberry and rocky road plays those are different place they can't show those ones Spiller and Jackson on kick off returns in the pre season. Sandi watched kids playing in the fifth game of the pre season what are you trying to prove what in the world are you trying to gain. It's. It's indefensible. And the bills coach. Is responsible. And at Watkins misses any time. You know. They got bit by injuries last injuries were excuse for them and that's just an excuse out reason why they lose some of their games injuries at a loss important players Stevie Johnson got her during important games. manuals for. Defensively right Stephon Gilmore assert CJ Spiller is heard all or earlier jurist was nursing an injury during training camp and early in the season. Injuries real reason that they had struggles last year. If the offense which date spent 21 round picks to get sandy if they have any games without Watkins because of injury to pre season in which the coach played him in the fifth game like. That's the reason that the offense will struggled what it's your fault. It is the coach's fault. So I I'm I'm amazed that he played amazed that Manuel played. The bills were lucky to get out of camp as healthy as they were and they doubled down on a guy that had an injury and played it again. And didn't protect him. He got hurt again so we'll find out how long he's hurt for it it's any stretch of time the the coach should be. Or what trainer you pick you want if the if Doug once say it's on the trainers they clearly should have been okay I'll buy that and get trainer. Or get on somebody who doesn't have common sense on there. The protects anyone in and I feel comfortable doing this this morning because if anyone wants it to you know. Cry hindsight. On demand audio we spent four hours yesterday saying do not play Watkins there's nothing to gain anyone with common sense would say it going into the fifth. Pre season game. Their opponent last night the lions they didn't play they're starting quarterback you know didn't their week one opponent the Chicago Bears. Jay Cutler didn't start David fails it. And they scored six points in their in their last downing their offense looked terrible. I don't panic and play him to see if they can get some sort of rhythm and just like where does it make sense what where does it all line up. Guys listen we're not doing anything out there on offense But your quarterback junior receiver gonna get rhythm on plays that never gonna run. Await your your out there playing these players. While not doing anything which is it. Where they get the chemistry. All we gathered at a chemistry against the lions second team in a Vanilla offense or we don't actually do anything that we're gonna deal. So I get it. Joseph chemistry on that somehow and then when you go and the Chicago and play the bears and on the plays that you have not shown anybody which could be great if they could win games. Where it should be how you do that the chemistry practice those in game situations these are telling us which the teams are different than practice. Well. So you need to get the chemistry in the rhythm and that is in the that on plays that you won't run. It's an interesting idea. They were very that'll last night which they have been all its. I mean we've been using the so long now. That I think when you say it sometimes almost goes in one ear and out the other because people don't wanna hear and I get a lot of either because I wanna see them score. But yet if if the point was brought up to me last night to that well if they're not executing you know normal you just have to basically got to think about. Then once you actually did you get a game plan situation to think about the play and had to make adjustments on the fly. That will that make it harder I don't know he may be the answer is that hey because you're game planning it's going to be a little bit easier know what situation you're in but I would have liked to have seen. Even with Vanilla offense as much as it was then advance past the other team's 44 art. Try to get past the 44 stating it the red zone they didn't get into the orange zone or even the white yellow zone 44 yard line. Is as deep as they got. meant a pre season doesn't matter but what does matter is mismanaging your roster and costing yourself with your new star receiver is her. 8030550. Over the phones won 88 by fifty to 550. Rough and running let's go to South Florida for Larry good morning Larry RW GR. Good morning and I don't or do great. Well. Not if it's a armed. With the pre season to what are about facts that help people get hurt there's no control of that. Well are is there and as you guys had mentioned. Let's talk about the So breaches war one war which is just ridiculous are often does not move the ball here's here's the thing that's your. Terming listen you got called comic all the time. All that's here remember sitting at dot C that I bet shell you know we're ducking the insult or watch in the draft. And I was just praying. God that they were going to drafts Paterson not Vijay is varied and exciting days because Joseph distributed. Reported later dressed he gave an really thank you kidding me. So anyway I got a border they got and again immediately shot. So this year. As you guys are mentioning. You and Mike marquis brought that was the big the big ticket items silly at all on doppler that is no way they're gonna trade up. You're standing and you know he's great player the stock Attila and it's too expensive I mean they're gonna get a great receiver can they didn't get on. Odds are probably what all the and that we and Mike Evans the soccer player looks pretty get very. Excited about last night it looked pretty good. So I would've been really happy are those cute government and then what they do is give or take next year and here's scary part in getting mentioned it. What these are working that's at crime. How do you put in your marquis player your off central weapon. And again and he's already heard that need much. Bottle could easily. The way if they played like it in the preceding an awful could easily. Get a top five pick which actually belong to Cleveland. And Cleveland doesn't look like they're going to be very good. In connection team to pick and can that ever happened. And if that's the case had to roll and keep the defense of Scotland. Yeah I would say goodbye to yeah I'd say about a coach and unfortunately got to start all over and by that time were good birdie try to be will be gone. So I'm just frustrated right now. Larry I'll say this. Everything you just said is about a month away. Thank you can't go all the way there on the pre season and why and I says I know you and are both in the same spot on this. But all of that legislate out it's not far away. And the pre season record you know one and four is one of port doesn't matter. It matters a little bit because the coach says it's important to win anyplace to win and we we're gonna about that a win this game like he either says that just to say it. Horry means that if he means it well then one unforced bad. But all that stuff about Watkins about trading up like right now. Watch Kansas her again in the bills have mismanaged this and we'll see how long he's up maybe he plays against the bears. And that's great maybe he's banged up all season. And then the one person. That was the key to fixing your offense and giving you explosiveness he's banged up in her all year he has like the units CG did last year was like. Are nagging injuries guys next year he'll be great all OK well that's that's wonderful. Right now. It's tough to that except Watkins instead of one of those other two targets in first round pick back. I wonder how many times you want to make that trade back betrayed the trade looms. We will talk about it all year. It'll hang over this team over Doug Whaley. And if this team. Is not good. Then. You know. It's gonna it's it's it's going to be the reason Doug Whaley gets fired if he gets fired by the new ownership by whoever comes But Watkins got hit again. Or watching the replay by the way again here of the play in the studio what they I. I wanna throw out there. we at least on this this criticize EJ Manuel pork but at least on this play. This was not and they criticize each day for each of the two step drop and threw us. This was the call the call was deceive me on a slant. Stop with the he telegraphed it that's what it's supposed to do takes the ball he takes two or three steps back he throws it to the slant pattern. Where CME is it was a horrible pass was incomplete he got hit. There's a lot of things to criticize EJ for this particular play. Is not one of them are right. Agree nick over the middle calling this I have issue with that it does become the field I have an issue with. It doesn't even look like a very. If it does look like a big hit at all look it doesn't look that bad if it happens against the bears no problem. This is the stupid. Pre season. They announced 57000. People or their last night coming whether cell. At that game point thousand added that there was fifties now know better 57000. My ticket well because you're seeing how this account so they're saying 101000 extra tickets were sold beyond the season ticket. Number right now here's a with a collar things on the side and I thank you very much because you I think at least the collar. His voice. Symbolize a lot of frustrations and thinks he said that a lot of theater feeling tonight and today this morning should say tonight council last night mode but. There's a lot of hypotheticals you also mentioned how they on this and traded it got two picks from don't know that you don't know that we can't know he's done he's pointing up the Cleveland had to equities while Clinton has to add two picks in now that they've I guess what I'm saying it is there's a lot of things that we always look at the draft well we could go on this way we could've gone that way. I mean who's going to be throwing the ball they would take in Paterson I don't do all right there's a lot of hypotheticals. You know so so yeah we can say they took the wrong guy I'm still wondering did they take the wrong cornerback is geno Smith gonna be the guy that I look at and say. My gosh like they could've had geno Smith that they wanted and what I had to. Yes it did take EJ Manuel that's not taken someone else their borrowings I can think about as well going forward because looks pretty good. Could they have waited until this year and taken Teddy Bridgewater somewhere. You can go before a lot of things to hire the wrong coaches there aren't that's right. All the way back to that they are the wrong coach so so there's a lot of hypotheticals there I get it it's all frustrating because we want answers and more importantly Jeremy. We want simple answers I think that's what fans want simple answers that we can point to something tangible and say. This is the problem this is where all where we know it it's not that simple. Now we have to wait until next to see at least what happens because as much as we're all mad today as much as we're all frustrated. The bottom line is nothing truly matters until we know how they look next week against the Chicago 305518088. By 52 perfectly good board what did you think of the pre season this is the pre season. Post game show the post pre season show. Jeremy so departure parent of each year. It's it's always much easier when you can just focused down and and this tunnel and On plan. Mean that's that's that's the case so. You know from that standpoint. It should be that we have to do their job or not you know because of all the time we've You know get ready for Chicago to colonel you know less fourteen cases of you know the platform now and then wins we've reached a monopoly. Think the biggest mistake you can make it happen too much the only game plan. Watching Johnny touchdown pass against the bears. Watching as highlights. Rolling out on the Iran. And dying. At times yet he had a few and six of seventeen is not great there were some classes I guess that he. In the very good on and some things he did pretty well. Six completions for 83 yards and that's bad in 55 rushing touchdowns this pre season that it Niagara international conference about writing on my shirt shorts. Noting cool how the guy that took over par plaques and Texas and amp is getting guns and in his first ever start in college football he breaks Johnny man's taxes CNET record any deals is named. With 511. Yards passing one game and by the way against the good south Carolina's Steve Spurrier coached team in their house. Pretty nice so who had a worse week Steve's keys yet or dog Marron. Sees Turkey should have that Josh player lie about breaking his ankles in the obviously situation and he's had a player quit the team and called racist. Where is dug her own. His team has gone. Completely. What in the tank and they got shot Against backups yesterday by the lines and game that he labeled important enough to play his starters and and his star receiver got hurt again. Unnecessarily. Meanwhile I'm watching highlights here. On sports center there's a beautiful touchdown pass from Blake portals Teddy Bridgewater had a very strong pre season he's a guy he's that he's been very good. But he's done nothing. And yet but that's this is when I'm gonna be stopped most of the sell maybe you can help me callers can help me maybe dug around and help over the course of the next week. How is it that their openly not doing anything offensively yet simultaneously while admitting they're not doing anything. Wanting to its claim that they want to win these games. And claiming that the players out there need to develop chemistry together a name like manual and Watkins chemistry. On plays that are their actual place. Like I can't help you on the I can't that. I just can't aid to Israel 550 what level. Of freak out should their be right now get this call eight at 305518885525. If you ready for we'll open lines. The game was not on last night so many of you probably didn't see it here's what it looked like said he wants went over the middle got hit her got her again. His ribs again. And we don't know the extent of the injury so for manual ineffective starting offense thing. The bills didn't get past the 44 on the entire night. And oh by the way Jordan Palmer not good. As many would expect. I believe after the game I read. And at be obviously he's not. He's not a doctor rating like that but. EJ said about Watkins. He will be fine. Elderly does he also says after poor performances I thought it went well right so I dislike trust man you know I valuation of thing. Especially rib injury we don't know all of talent is I don't know we spoke to not but he said in the locker room. When asked about he said he probably just got banged up I think he will be find something along those lines. Yes here's something else that he set after the game. He said he came off the field and Now you got to understand some things in context here because I'm doing the post game show and I'm listening and he's that in the locker room after not during the podiums I didn't hear it. Somebody alerted me to the fact it EG said he played well so I'm like come on accurately say that did what he said was. When evaluating its performance he was asked Jeremy. He's that I came off the field. MI quarterbacks coach and athletic coordinator said. I played well so that's one that soap operas that played well and he's he's gonna roll with that and on some level I I totally get that I do because. In anything we do. I want my bosses say hey you yeah you did OK and then I'm gonna feel better about the job that I did in my bus as I did okay say okay good that you're pleased that I'm pleased with it. What bothers me though is. The entire Jordan Palmer take ownership of how bad the offense was when here's a guy that has every excuse in the world. To say first day I that mean I was out there we were bad but he didn't know what he said to pare phrase. Well when we're out there on the quarterback and we're bat and that's on me and I got to do a better job. Colleges that liked to use her EJ say something like that and he didn't. I get says though when people say well he said he played well. What he really said was my coaches told me I played well so that's obviously one trying to please well. And I I get people that. I that Michael Jordan Palmer did have a quarterback rating of ten. He if you completed nine passes to the bills in three passes that alliance. So I mean for him to say I've got to be better more reason to say it. You know he was got to make better decisions with the ball Manuel goes three of seven for 56 yards it was a hall of fame game all over again. Seven attempts. So that they enjoy you look last night remember the first game when he threw the ball seven times in real public plan and I seven at the what are. If they've played so he Manuel could get chemistry or get you don't get playing together. Seven. Tenths what was his quarterback rating Jordan Palmer ten. Ten even ten point four. Well good you don't know don't ask don't shortchange in that twilight no because I just want to compare know that. And the bright side geno Smith had two games were last year. Yes that was a ten point 11 game gets buffalo it was an eight point three against I was trying to look at some backcourt back ratings last year overall. John writes wasn't bad last night was three of seven but should have been five of seven Fred and each eye drops my I don't care about that. It's seven tenths. The coach justified playing Sammy Watkins by saying he needed to play with manual and scenario. In any game whether or not running the offense they're gonna run during the regular season. And where manuals gonna get seven attempts. You've been practicing and training camp for five weeks you've had five football games a pre season. You've intra squad scrimmage is with the Steelers Watkins got her once and had a missile of the time. And you put about in the most meaningless situation in justify by saying you had to work with manual. Now he had a corporate manual today. And tomorrow and Wednesday when you're getting ready for the bearers. And him what he misses this week of practice maybe he's got a rib injury so. I don't know how much time illness. If he misses and when you say justified by the way that was before the game even before going into the game last week. Doug or outside let's see some guys you alluded to this you knew what he you read between the lines I'd like to. Easily he says is I'd like that I'd like to play some guys who haven't played with each. There's been here's here's has sent as answer from last night one of my goal was an accident again we've got a one of those guys play together. You know it happened you know Chris well and available for us he wasn't cleared. And then really wanted to get you don't want to pick what you said one of the questions that is. You know quarterback with you know if they ever have played allies in games they've played. Quite a bit of practice but it is different games. Seven attempts. How many times are they going to Watkins three. Then that's gonna change their fate. It's not even risk reward it's just risk there's no reward. Eight a 30550. Bucks phones and Chris we mentioned Chris Williams guard Chris US senator good morning. A guy. Like eight. organization port here but. Prostrate that there won't say that that would really talk about out EJ yeah. Quite Specter's team that the team at bat again you know public quarterback seven time. What do they they shouldn't. Report by look for another quarterback in the draft. Our Mac called back at first outlet shirt they eat it aren't compatible. I know now but it's so frustrated at the same story yet I would want to see yet he had. Put up loyal pet a couple of crap like this report keep your standard to shell out one of all. Can't calendar she did not have and we collect it now should equities it's got to watch it. Legal ownership and a new outlook make these looked better but we only three cornerback. Our guys in camp and later week. Expressed hopefully regular season football makes things look better I mean honestly I'm still there where. I get it I am just as frustrated I have just as many concerns but I haven't. Just said hey I'm gonna jump off the ledge right now and completely think that this is exactly how it's gonna look I don't know I'm willing to give it a week to see in the regular season what changes are made I'm willing to give a look and see. game plan affects things how they can actually go in and attack the Chicago Bears who can't stop Iran and. Basically say okay we don't need you win this game that we can let CJ Spiller and projects and rich brown try to win. I don't know he should be banking and can't stop the run the bills couldn't stop the run last year in their you're planning on them stopping on this year. They would have tried to do things to fix that so debate and to bank on that he should also bank on the bills nonstop and well I. I I am. At least saying that I am willing to give next week and and I agree with regular season football. Before just calling up and say oh my got a whole new ownership does everything cleans house with a season that he played. We regular season game to be played next week this has been in the pre season everybody zero and zero we're starting over here. Welcome to make excuses I get it I understand why or what he's frustrated I am too. But give at least let the season start and play before we start making these all these really really broad judgments about what needs to happen next year. All the bills have already decided that what's gonna happen next year they're not picking in the first round of made that decision. So that's part of next year they haven't asylum third with a quarterback they decided not to pick in the first round Kevin a cellular and Biggio. Are you guys. More follow call call before I was talking about EJ and I can't that it is people like you know I wanted to finish like And I'd been trying to look like he'd to look up the receiver he just. I can't let timing too quick and maybe that's not the case by notre at a bad stop that. Which it seemed like don't look opted receivers. And eight bureau and on the guys and that's why the offensive bet that I'll double or maybe that's why you know everybody's it back to it. That heavy but batted balls yesterday. No end Kevin don't oh that's something to look on the regular season. They're not running their office so. You know he's not doing this he's not doing that they're not running their offense they're not three screens to CJ Spiller right. That's part of profits probably they haven't thrown to Mike Williams or Sammy Watkins in the red zone on fade patterns probably part of our office so. While something to look for I don't think quite make it yet Manuel might not even be asked to be doing that yet well. the look at. He does sometimes stared out receivers there's no doubt that sort IG does but of course and there's many other times where he gets accused of it or simply doesn't. Last night with likens that is not he stared down the receiver play. That is a creek it was called a slant on the play your take three steps and throw to you know what you gotta do get your eyes were exposed you really quickly so. I think we're looking again for the simple answer sometimes it's just not always there. There's times criticize import. That was wanna And it's not always and it's not fair to do it all the time. When he doesn't do it yeah and heavy balls batted down anyway I mean this isn't really an issue it just was in one particular game the jury of three preceding. Eight at 30550 do you have faith in the bills' coaching staff I think that's a lot of what this comes down to faith in them we'll continue to talk about that after Ronald stick with us grab open line. 8030550. Jeremy White so popular on this Friday morning you know under the each year. That if you don't know who that is is Kenny football. Trademarked here first. We got broke Johnny amends I am pretty sure some people have that less a Twitter they had Kenny football yes let's not drag. It was at was trying to fire under new and and Kenny not Johnny Teddy not he's good that one. You can football Kenny the other football and Johnny football and football and he does the candy. Often a so you know what now that might not be trademarked duplicate eaten away now it's when I. I was a kid nightly pop Warner footballer when he got that a jacket Casey you walk round and you'll have your name on it was pretty cool and they would put on their fewer cheerleader they'd cheerleading and your jacket if you play football league right football in my jacket said football in my name under. So for literally a year and a half I'd be walking around people call me football sell my jacket said. that was maybe I thought that was my name for a year and a half from my I thought I was cool it wasn't it was because it's added on the jacket football south. Luckily you know my was Sally event cheerleading Sally or something and it was football sell for your half. 8030550. Jeremy White yards on vacation he's back next week you view remanded to dodged this minefield from him miss this minefield of a week where the bills played. A pair pre season games and looked terrible in bulk of them this last one the worst 23 to nothing ten more penalties. As any other team in the pre season cry about penalties. Other teams must do it right now I did Merlin in he actually said he thought there were some last night they're okay then even the three in the week before he said how the previous two games or talk about questionable penalties. In from him I thought I remember against Tampa he said hey I we go back and look at all thought there was some correct calls and there regret I showed a journalist I'm in view. most teams probably complain and is she thinks that league has been a crackdown. Ten more penalties two for twelve on third down three interceptions for Jordan Palmer who's there new backup quarterback cool might last what two weeks with that kind of performance. Partly a premier by the way to bring up anything other than a quarterback are seen near the offensive production but it just thing last night I was watching. During halftime I was watching the TV feed and Steve tasker made a comment that was interest. He called Chris Hogan a bubble player. You agree with you Chris on the bubble. He might have put to the bubble he's done pretty much nothing since they said hey. Houses and cars are very earnings I don't know that meanwhile growing in my office what's he supposed to do. Well. It in on top of that. Maroney is having that those question last night Doug Brown actually said. When he was asked about the idea when your quarterback plays like that does that make it more difficult to evaluate the rest of the roster he's I'd like to say no. But yes. last night's game it's difficult to evaluate anybody that plays on offense is the quarterback Jordan Palmer with sole bad. So I am I able to value makers so. They played just tool they decide not to adopt I'm not running would be cut. Well either he's going to be cut or and I know this sounds horrible that for people because they're gonna go you're kidding me you're joke what what any form. I would not be surprised at least gauging interest for seventh round pick for currently I'm going to be funny but okay well and if they don't plan because you don't wanna get about that they Place Sammy Watkins. That's that's that's what kinda all I'm saying is it's been suggested that they've been. Try to just like TJ they played him but there was a report that they're trying to trigger when he got to get decadent. I mean what that's extra pick for TJ grant seventh rounder there was a report from lock on four yesterday Tonight Show all got traded for a seventh trumpet. He won 460 some market has cellphone for direct to number two is once. good morning. Yes our I think it's time I'm not I'm not panic but I more angry that there's ever been. The last three quarterbacks outlook we give a third round draft pick that we go after Bert Roberts got last year. There better the wanted to go off sides or not pitching I want to augur well I watch over so. Consistency is really be called deflection here and I'm not like what I see it pretty component to winning franchise. Quality general manager. Quality head coach. Franchise quarterback. And you turn that franchise around. And Google are creatures may go and I'm I'd give credit are public get a break bad enough. I want a lot of in fifteen years it's time. They called it set. Thanks mark I would say of those three you mentioned that you really only need one. And then the one will make every the other two were Smart you quarterback you get court Aaron Rodgers walks in the door here. You gonna say the GM and coach really Smart. That happens an awful lot. But right you wanna have a best coach possibly wanna have the best GM possible do you think the man for the job. Let's talk about that last year was your wanna we are your two it'll real 550 faith in Doug Whaley. Confidence and dug around talk about the dogs next here and of each year.

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I didn't know until Howard Jimmy Matthews here on W -- we hear from you gonna talk about the new stadium we get to -- -- you can get too close to beat a 30550 Tom Ellis on -- reportedly will. Bid on the Buffalo Bills so. Awful sports fans wouldn't think of Tom Golisano is on the bills. Our web balls up for you at WGR 550 dot com but we like to hear from you like in Iraq -- all of you give us call at 803055888552. Foot. We spent a lot of time. Last couple weeks talking about. A stadium. -- a site for a new stadium. And how much would it cost to get -- -- stated because that the league continues to say the commissioner for sure. But a new stadium is key to keeping the bills Jim Kelly came out that some candidates you -- stating key keeping the bills here so -- would find out more about. The concept of a new stadium and one of my at all entail for all of us here in Western New York were joined by John hutchings John works for HKS architects now they designed. The stadium that is being promoted by the group that wants the facility at the outer harbor location Georgia as you notice in that group they were ominous -- -- as let's -- But they've also designed other NFL stadiums including. One that just got ported to -- when he eighteen Minneapolis -- John does -- this year John it's Howard and Jeremy thanks for coming on for how are you doing today. So listen we're looking for some information on stadiums and and John obviously you have experience in this UN the company you work for. For our listeners. And for me for purposes of background what NFL stadiums have you and the company worked on I I know minute Minneapolis is one of them. Well. Missiles streak of -- In the Indianapolis. Which host bowl. Of course it telescope state and -- at. All. And we're currently working with. I kings and the minute so much so. In Indianapolis. And next which keeps us. -- Designers -- -- first. Simply close. To understand the requirements cold -- -- In the design. And which -- on this opportunity. We -- more news. -- -- even so even then you mentioned you design a stadium with the Super Bowl in mind even in. Cold weather cities even in a small market like buffalo you what you still took that into account. Certainly certainly. -- it could have taken that route to go. I'll stay in the open the year. Were statements of could not have been put in position to win the -- me in typical. And annual financial model. Or a professional. Football. Administration it. Don't they state he'll do it. Sing and dance with all the premium -- minute. And the -- use still. A potential economic. -- John -- -- elevenths and issues with the phone connection some we're gonna put John hold don't go anywhere and I'm whenever producer reconnect. With you market sold on 12. IMac you go ahead and and I talked to John and we're obviously we've we can hear him but it's a little shaky -- we're gonna trying get a better connection and talk more because obviously. The next question I would have would be costs and if you're gonna build the stadium -- all the amenities and he. Pointed out Dallas. Was. Over a billion dollars and I think Minneapolis was just under a billion dollars Indianapolis with a little over 700 million Jon you're back with a strike. OK so -- you talk about amenities that I was that's one of the big questions were all wondering about if it takes an in state and keep the bills. We're wondering how much will it cost -- know it's somewhat of an unfair question because who knows what bells and whistles are going and can you give us any kind of range load -- what a new stadium would cost these days in new NFL stadium. Well world war against the best example is right now. In Britain in this. That won't now. Billion dollar state -- PR war site infrastructure. Such a situation chest. -- -- -- I think -- trying to. There's that and that is. Placed. Calls. -- -- -- -- -- Universe and of course seen since it. Reached. I. -- -- Is there. A list if you will -- Are there requisite that the NFL gives you guys architects any idea what they are looking for and it is data like what would make the league happy in new stadiums. What we understand their requirements. Or pool we understand generally are all stick. On our priest and a minimum. Amount sixty -- -- and then typically come up with ways to expand that perhaps. He worked seven to 72 settles in. Coach. John Hudgens -- -- from HKS architects so when you design a stadium that you mentioned several why don't you can bring observable I'm curious when you design a stadium. How much do you have to take into account. Market -- again all right so it's a smaller market here in buffalo. Do you take into account what in the market afford in terms of the price to build a new stadium. Well. I think it's it's not do its. Capacity is that you couldn't mixed in. On server. -- now and seeing double on content. In. Order. Somewhere in 67. Outs so. Start. -- congress. -- still works. And work. Are trying to. -- all too true that's fine tune. Now -- It's. Hatred terror seating options. -- Production. -- that of those the most important aspects when you build a new stadium -- design a new stadium now specifically with the NFL the premium seats the luxury boxes the club seats are they the most important aspect of the design. All the cool people keep. I get people that it. Helps -- court. He's on the so that's it's. Important to understand in the region and didn't translate. In seeking opportunities. For birdies notes are local community and street. A -- the last thing -- ask you about again when it comes do you design. How much do you take into account the city. The cityscape the landscape around the site how much do you I don't know localize -- if you will based on where it is going. Oh well matched. Sides or other and a total of franchises. In oh don't tell. Solar panels and Minnesota and totally for expression. And I'm a nurse. And important research into -- -- Didn't. Meet. John Hudgens Weathers from HKS architects John appreciate coming all of us this morning thanks very much for giving us the information today. All right thank you all right so we get at all how cool is that. And three for three and that they -- at least it now and suitable. I would go the smallest right I can build the stadium here with designs on the circuit board to building a stadium that with designs that will be affordable here. And that won't you know drive up the debt load and and his practical and we don't need 65 to 72000 seats here. Well you do wanna go multi purpose that's I don't I guess that yeah but. In your ideal world. Well should it what do you think is right. Right is the lower at RC a dome but rightist -- like 5560. Max. Well you know well keep costs down at this stage at all the bells and whistles driving up to a billion dollars on. The building. You know more seats ads too much more cost. Maybe just means it's a little larger. The cost comes in with land where it is. You don't how elaborate all the bells and whistles are but you know I don't think it's as simple as a stating it's 45% larger is 25% more expense. Cause it's much off right some of it is what what is the cost of of adult what is the cost of a retractable roof vs the dome -- mean that can change the color of. Stated if you look at Minnesota is that of HKS. You can watch what Minnesota's is going to do it looks perky nice fifth. A lot of glass on a natural light doors open like Lucas Oil field as the one and it opens the cowboys the ends open. They try to make it big open public space. You know -- -- -- wouldn't of the Minnesota baseball team it's gonna be used like that there's no QB he's not playing baseball games at this noose and its arc. But what I was gonna say is. Try to figure out what we want it to be it has to be. It has to be multi multi purpose. That's why when we talk about downtown. How close could it -- to downtown. I I've always wanted to be the convention center but it needs to be in the new conventions of the convention center is not -- standards of the country. You wanna play the game. You've got to get a new stadium we don't need a stadium but if we wanna play in that league we gotta have one -- and turn double as something that could be multi purpose is very very important. Think if they did debt that Joe's not here I thought they did some -- that with the old stadium in Indy. RC AA field I thought -- words it was a combo convention -- they've built in in the facility. These huge rooms and places they can hold meetings and when you -- any multi use means like what he was talking about. NCAA events. Concerts. I don't know like does that I don't know that you be exposed I mean I suppose you -- can play baseball games are they want to play at the Pepsi Center right now right across the street from the campus. But Tom -- used to me I was thinking and CA and concerts. Well Ralph Wilson Stadium does not -- concerts right now maybe again maybe with this facility you get concerts. Yeah Ralph was just it was less than at a concert. Is there a big push for this area to have an event and it's a place like tactic could hold bigger events. To really need that. It's a marvelously well she gonna do with it if it's model you constantly saying. If this remark at that is desperately needing a venue for Giants Stadium shows that would be a good case to make bought. I don't think it's desperate. -- I don't dispute it'd be nice for us we're not desperate for now I'm not asking that I'm talking about the performers. Other performers missing out on a market. For you to say you wanna have a place where you can have concerts like YouTube could come here is YouTube dying by not coming here now -- they've got Toronto really close by. So if you are a fan of him by a giant concert band. Is staring need is there a demand. For this market. I don't disagree I on the use YouTube because I don't consult stated that does not specifically about them. I don't that you and I would love the idea of like oh cool more cool bands are coming but. For a 60000. Seat stadium it's now how many bands are. Coming concerts are at that level. Panic what else would you put it. Other than what he had events convention -- things like yeah. Not to let -- call instead of the first and second round would you like regional regional you have that you -- you'd have a big. We have our Carrier Dome we -- it facility Paul writes in Russell mania. Agree totally. Now I'm on board more than 8030550. To join us 888550. To 550. Paul and buffalo you're on WG. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- All I thought I had kind of a question that that I knew that make -- able to answer. And it about the sale of the team. On the lecture at 83 people are beating them on the team and arm. I guess I met -- that question that I do not want until the -- he might think he would move out of buffalo had. If he would -- bigger than the other two. Cannot trust -- -- you know it will take that a second highest bid because we. Why not honor Ralph Wilson. Which is that she didn't hear and could. -- -- what I am white city something like that they you know what we don't want that one too by the team we'd rather have made any doubt I don't. On the team his interest start keeping it here or does that automatically is go to the Hyatt better. One we don't know -- we asked -- that question yesterday but he wouldn't effort we don't know to what I thought you're gonna ask is a question we've passed this. The super friends scenario. Good if there are three local bids we have a super friends this -- we all want the same thing here gentlemen let's combine our forces. Strong strength in unity right right but the next scenario only one of us. Can you picture three billionaires sitting around a table playing Buffalo Bills owner roulette. Where's like I Everett put the -- last start -- gets all the bills and who gets to be the -- the majority owner will some capacity right someone has to be. So I don't know about a super friends and -- how ridiculous that is but. What may be more just to speculate again. Maybe the Jacobs family. The extent of their public comment to this point. Has Dan that. They will be using their contacts and resources to do whatever they can. To help keep the bills here they did not specifically say they would place a bid on a team so what if the Jacobs family doesn't necessarily want a big. The controlling owner they don't want to be the number one lead person but are willing to be part of a group let's -- -- -- says all right I'll take the lead. Who's with me and -- was fairly says you know what weary in well invested in NFL team we want to keep the team here. But we don't just I wanna be the lead person have to deal at all that's a gesture. Glad Tommy lead the way and will be part of your group are sure that's possible but your initial question yeah we we asked -- that he wouldn't give it. Com I don't remember who was. Because we've had so many different guests on -- the last few weeks talking about this. But somebody did mention about you know exactly what is the responsibility of the trust now initially the you know you can talk to some. Lawyers and experts who tell you that they're they're they have a fiduciary responsibility their main responsibility is to get the best. Price to make the most money for. The seller in this case you know the family. But then we'll talk to the people that say that's not necessarily if it doesn't have to go to the highest bidder that the trust. Past you take into account which group won the fact is that we take into account which group has the best chance which person has the best chance of being approved by NFL owners. So. You know your example with Bon Jovi which might be a good example for us because apparently he's got friends and ownership Jerry Jones Robert Kraft. But it's possible to trust could in theory -- that explanation is correct it's possible trust to take a lower bid. Because they believe. That group is the has the best shot at being approved by National Football League owners but it definitive word nobody -- well. Nobody has said definitively. Whether that's in the trust or not. It's common lack of one next time you're on WG -- right ahead. Yes. Is trust is stating yesterday right now we've got 7000 scene in -- the old boxes in the dugout boxes. More moral or as many weeks as anyone else I would think they wanted to build something at least 68 to 70000 so that you -- Spread the costs have a lower cost of the individual's seat by giving more people in the stadium to give the revenue that NFL want. But you gotta make sure you get these games sold out the NFL -- -- blackouts either. So you know you got to figure out what can use again you know over the last you know credited dome would certainly help you in December. But the last years there's been an issue. Last year they sold out what they have what like one maybe two truce sellouts and they manufactured a whole bunch of others and of that blacked out games. She got a I would think you've got to keep that in mind in terms of the ability to sell these games out on a regular basis and -- on television. Right it might play. Let's let's let's kind of it's kind of a big yes you know there's no guarantee that make the playoffs this just in. Right but in any city if you're gonna go fourteen. In years development in the playoffs you're back and -- Well the -- on -- made the playoffs there were blacked out games in the nineties. When they had 80000 seats in the stadium. -- -- Again that -- be out there looking at trying to keep the cost on the you've got to have more more inventory -- them that the -- two small stadium where it's gonna be out pricing themselves and it won't even saw the 60000. True there's also a demand to -- lower the supply the demand goes up I got a better chance to sell tickets. I think yes a lot of business manager -- Soledad there's there's this is what the new stadium working group part of it probably will consider. I should be smaller stadium than they currently have -- one of the smallest market should not have the biggest stadium I mean it's it's the small market. So it should not have a big stadiums. And it should be retractable because they have trouble selling tickets because people don't like to be cold as much as you know we get calls about all of whom don't know yet. When it's nice out you wanna be endorsed. -- -- jays game and it's beautiful outside who wants -- who wants the roof close to -- you want to be in September. Here. You wouldn't necessarily wanna be in an indoor stadium with the roof closed open it up right so that's it but then that what's that all the windows down. Power power is at hand crank up above that what do the first ever -- home. -- just kind of rolled on the sides. Breeze comes through. Bureau put all times come like restaurants that have liked the windows -- allies and open up when you have the air come and how buffalo is that giant garage doors. That's in its roof does India have that. Just one and there's a basically a giant to war yeah pretty much slides open the -- -- state if we're gonna make this thing is buffalo is off retractable roof. With sliding sides. -- garage source. -- to try to pick picture guy. Like like a guy standing there likes with a handled sliding this large door -- god or Allah once feel like a buffalo that is it's gonna like. Very very small fences around the entire stadium -- Practiced you know. So that then and then and then think if you're in the end zone with a one of the sliding doors opened and you then. Go out and have lunch at a table and have like the game on the big screen TV as long as we're just you know. Brainstorming. Eagle 30550 to join us off in Indianapolis. WG yarder right ahead. -- very good and good -- that's my question. Good about the old stadium not to because I've never been in the news data but I thought the old city had some kind of convention facility. It did. What it would be in service for the call it a little also doubled -- to mention better. The look that it is -- -- but credit when they tore that down. That was overflow for the new convention and that they built. And they also built a spine above ground and below ground. Viewed RCA dome footprint as well -- the Lucas Oil Stadium. But the old stadium was was -- mean it was it was a stadium and convention center Lucas Oil as it is just the stadium. Correct but if you use that. Oil stadium. Area for our overflow on the convention that well when their opinions purple ball. Okay yeah I I I I thought I remembered seeing. Like all these meeting rooms and stuff when we walked from the hotel over to the RCA field -- -- excuse me so yeah I appreciate it thanks for column back on that Colin and her Oprah you that's other to other -- -- -- your idea. It was done in Indianapolis we have a football stadium and and you have your convention center facility there as well. We'll go to Greg in Toronto next Greg you're on W -- right ahead. An -- I think Barack. These stadium builders they look at a collusion. How do you feel -- built for 200. -- at 270. Million. You know a year ago and all but now we're talking. Recorder. All of billion dollars let you know it. You know I like -- wanted to -- that you build an awful awful mean. What is it that they like that I billion dollar stadium that it seemed like it is only collusion in trying to raise the price. Well they have horse -- they they of course the designers wanted to design you the -- awesome ride and Indianapolis in Dallas and Minnesota wanted. Or at least they've proved Super Bowl stadiums yeah that and keep that in mind Greg don't forget he stressed when they designed the stadium's design it with. The Super -- right the starting point is sorrow the Super Bowl. No it can't it probably can't you probably never will. Aren't and that's fine listen I I don't and I don't think I'd still drive was less it in today's dollars it was like thwarted four I agree. If if HKS once that is on the stadium they walk in this right wanna start from the suitable we say okay. Move past what's next -- -- what's the -- level like what what else can aggregate you know I don't I don't need the supreme package what what can you offer me in the hey this place is kind of nice yes. That's what I'd like it like it to be covered. Potentially you know. Put it somewhere close people can access it I'd like to get there easily and get out of there easily and I'd like -- seats that face. A swath of green grass about a 140 yards long with goalposts at the end it's like you know like when you're buying a house and go visit your realtor. Let's go to got I got this house for 350000. Out. Yeah everything a little bit less -- that nice neighborhood good schools I need -- backyard I need a two car garage but I don't need this one Tony bedrooms and got a pond in the back and don't need it right only upon us. It says so -- the point is yeah I mean remember he said when they design a state of the first they do is Super Bowl might be gonna do that. Then you're building a stadium with every possible bell and whistle to get the NFL to bring you a suitable to your city -- that I don't think would be the case here. -- to -- there are plenty it is stated that opened up that didn't run. 750 to a billion dollars Pittsburgh among them we talked about yesterday Houston for a number of statins that in 2014 dollars. Their cost to be around 400 issue million dollars you can get it done. And by Houston hit it get a suitable 8030515. To join us 888552. Factor to any thoughts on the stadium discuss we just had. We're also talking about Tom Golisano. What do you think bill's fans if he's the next -- he is going to reportedly. Bid on the bills. If he's the next owner how to feel about Tom -- Coming up at 9:30 this morning we'll -- -- hockey talk Ken Campbell from the hockey -- -- be with us. Got -- article their draft preview about the building plan for the Buffalo Sabres that's later in the show we're talking to you in -- 30550 and Tom Golisano on WGR. In the article he made it to you -- -- with a certain thing. And he's admitted that I don't think people don't like about upon. And I don't fit the moment -- -- go back to Cleveland could open a clear reminder of them are real fans broke clear of the Cleveland a real friends. I think you know -- always was always open bidding would go back to Cleveland I think it would be a great way to finish his career. But throughout didn't look great way to sort of your career. Charles Barkley talking about the drug scene of the Cleveland how cool would that need. Of -- caps -- hope. That it convince carrier in the state. Yet another lottery pick maybe -- do better than last year's end to come back Howard Jimmy Matthew here on WGR Charles Barkley comments about. The Miami Heat their fans in Cleveland the NBA playoffs continue last night's San Antonio blew out Oklahoma City. It was. And 124 point lead when I tuned in the third quarter they went on to beat him like 35 points so dispersant that there's two against -- And the thunder can't play defense. The NHL playoffs continue tonight by the way quick update if you missed it and while -- -- -- but anyway LA came back and evened the western cup finals of one last night. Game three. Of the Rangers Canadian series tonight at Madison Square Garden at 8 o'clock Rangers lead the series two games -- -- -- car ski expected to start in goal for the Canadians tonight 8030515. To join us 888550. To 550. We are talking today about. Tom -- Who according to a story in the troubled son. Is planning to bid. On the Buffalo Bills. And -- we wanna know plain and simple the fees and extort the bills were to think what your opinion be -- Golisano is owner the bills Webb pulled to. You can vote either I'd love it are paid 69% voting I'd love it 31% voting -- there are. Other candidates we have kicked around the could be better -- you know we've been Jacobs Brothers have been mentioned the Jacobs family Jeremy Jacobs -- and cell -- team -- -- -- the -- Lead owner because he owns the Boston Bruins. But the -- has been mentioned and that's a viable candidate for buffalo not terrible -- -- on by the third will be of tremendous candidate for buffalo. -- for the bills when it comes to Tom Golisano he's the best name I've got yet. That the names are Tom Golisano. Bon Jovi slash alert atom bomb analyses. And Rogers and drop their. I mean Tom also most far away number one. Other names that could come out could easily surpass Tom -- or maybe he's working in concert with someone else but. Right now this report that he intends to bid is the strongest. For the future of the Buffalo Bills that we got. We get to your calls here I don't feel like if you wanted to address and email as well. Not this it does the Nellie got not to sound dumb but at the county slash state paper new stadium why would tickets cost more. Stadium would be paid for by a party other than the bills -- ticket prices could be similar to what they are now. It would be great to hear more about the -- okay well -- the ticket price increases based on the fact that I'm thinking at some point I personally would like. The new ordered it to take somewhat of a financial stake in this stadium the vikings are paying part of there's nowadays. There are stated that -- -- -- on the NFL roller ownership does not put in assent. But I I was pacing the ticket prices going up on the owner. Whoever it is. Putting some money towards a new state. I'm we're all expecting the state will pay for the I would assume accounting and costs the taxpayers left pay for I would like to think that the owner will last -- take a percentage as well what it is I don't know. But I would. Figure that into the equation. So it's not all heaped on us. And if that's the case of the owners taking on debt by the way ticket prices also go up even if the owner doesn't pay for the stadium at all. Ticket prices could simply go up because the owners taking on a massive amount of debt to purchase the football team. If it's a billion dollars. You know you're taking on your you probably financing some of the sale and -- taking on a big amount of debt. So to pay down your debt you need revenue and the easy way to increase local revenue. These two set your tickets at a higher price so that's why even if that the state and isn't paid for by the owner I -- some of it is. You've still you could still increase -- increase your prices because you're trying to pay down the debt that you incurred. To purchase the global team remember. Ralph Wilson was debt free that team was paid for. The stadium was paid for he operated the bills debt -- the next owner will not have that luxury let's go to Justin here on W -- -- just. Yeah I gotta -- -- Good then I'm trying to go out and the other and saw all of that I'm getting down -- -- -- And logging execute them and then the -- your job -- and it. Our local loop and I couldn't stop that I'm on the -- comment on your previous stop by the commercial. The other talking about it the fact that the sort of beat plan that. You -- that the team that immediately whether it. It will cost them that if that's true then how you look at the it's actually is super bit -- -- -- -- absolutely and I've commented that that's got a comment about. It's two totally different things first off there's a salary cap your budget isn't higher than 125 million dollars to play for pay for players. What about the Super Bowl stadium could be talking about a billion dollars. Did you actually -- also that cost the studio and bring have been created in ten and makes people wanna come about well. And I would group also integrates good or -- talent hello when -- -- into the -- -- They got us -- I guess I don't understand what he's saying it's. What are you talking about that that I. Don't like stadium it'll get you a winner faster out and just not adult and if that if the stadium -- -- million dollars its not gonna beat a dump. So don't don't worry about the cost that not at all just and it's it's -- summit itself like. And -- you're buying a used car -- -- -- -- buying the worst car on the lot you're buying a -- that -- and the make those. So. There's no to me there is no equating. But the bills trying to win a Super Bowl with you've got to build a billion dollar suitable bells and whistles stadium it out. The Steelers -- Heinz Field. They built it at a cost I don't limit exact numbers now with somewhere in the 300 million dollar range in -- fourteen dollars Heinz field's cost. Is 45460. They -- suitable. To build a billion dollar stadium with bells and whistles and all the stuff and and you know they don't have the humongous scoreboard video board the Dallas that the Pittsburgh -- a suitable and Pittsburgh is a winning franchise so there's no equating. Don't even think about. -- would -- global you don't build a billion dollar suitable ready football stadium. But thanks for the call 8030550. To join us 888552. -- bring up atop the stadium. Quickly here there's an article and art voice. By Bruce Fisher. And he had a couple of locations in the that the basis of the article Liz. Why the stadium belongs downtown not out of harbor not an Amherst not even central terminal he's got a couple of sites downtown one. Niagara street next to City Hall. Or as he -- second best South Park avenue next to the Seneca buffalo creek casino. And he points out downtown those two locations. Existing hotels restaurants coffee shops public transit and one of the largest inventories -- circus parking. -- well within 3000 feet. All of the stadium. You put it downtown. Provides us with the best. If not only the only possibility for the regional economy to recoup the twenty million dollar annual subsidy plus the price of the new stadium that we have to today. And eight points out though that and you put this out the break that Steve -- there the shoreline apartments -- you'd have to get apartment owners to sell and demolished and apartments. And it that doesn't happen and I guess the waterfront school building is there. Then he suggests a site that I've heard people bring up the Perry projects. Two and half million square feet adjacent to the through way highly visible. As another possible property downtown. Through exits multiple through exits pre existing parking. Water sewer electricity lines drawl and for that Niagara street property as well so what it's worth we talked to. Carl Paladino we the other day we had some different concepts he brought the republic steel site. There -- couple other sites -- street. Maybe. Maybe an extension of the rail line if you put it on South Park out by the casino you can extend the rail line out there or perhaps. With the all of that the U the -- to project which has been admitted as a possibility as well. 8030550. To join us 88550. Q 550. Tom Golisano gives college let us -- to think if he hits the next -- the bills to like that. Don't panic don't freak out don't worry about. Yeah but the sabres lost this guy and that guy. It's different business it is an NFL team with NFL revenues. NFL payrolls this is completely different than what he inherited when he blocked. The Buffalo Sabres -- for the lockout even coming out of the lockout. -- and like was little better on the national hockey when I was speaking of hockey at 9:30 this morning and Campbell -- from the hockey is he has an article in the the 2014 draft preview about -- plan the building is stockpiling of the draft picks in the position the sabres will be -- In the next few years and how long it might take them to get back to -- to the top of the league. We'll talk about that with -- coming up at 930 and we'll talk to you and he industrial 515 on WG. -- -- Letting Sherman. A period reported today. Give them my butt but. Yeah we get we gotta go and a little bit. Not here today but we gotta give props. Beast mode Marshawn Lynch. I am sorry the -- not here because I just want to say. How much I admire his approach to the press. -- like the players the coaches the staff. Owners. Regulations to Seattle Seahawks and the whole city for outstanding -- -- both skipped out of the White House. It's too bad he wasn't their. But what they had going on. The White House the president. Your chance to get. I don't know White House covered scandals and a White House logo it's kettles. -- voted for and later. With the political message. Like -- 850 Howard Jeremy Matthew with you here on Dolly's here are 8030515. To join us we've been talking this morning about. An actual real local name wants to keep the team here. First one out of the box. You know again well he hasn't Tom Golisano hasn't set a -- the report in the Toronto sun yesterday said. Tom Ellis -- is planning on. Bidding for the Buffalo Bills. It is unclear. Whether he would be the only person bidding whether there would be. Another person or people in his group. But the story says dollars for sure Golisano would be the lead. In the group if there is a group that would get on the bills with him so you know in light of what happened with the sabres. Looking back in his tenure as owner the Buffalo Sabres. And projecting out how he would be as owner of the Buffalo Bills how that go over with you. If Tom -- Bought the Buffalo Bills this really interest in -- here in late may. I think you know you yesterday's news is big. There's you know the and that the naming of the investment banking firm and the transaction counsel is big this I can now really start move. Yeah the of the exciting part for me was I had to me in my investment banking from -- fantasy league you're at Morgan Stanley ya -- I went -- and it's got to keep relief and I just I've you know I've got to -- that that was going to be choice so I stuck with -- The firm at chase stay who is they're. T spanking and I had no idea that somebody else in the pool and actually even had Roscoe Rosen my law firm massively too so. Big day yesterday but it is it into the timetable it it is significant. Because now they can put this the book together that will be reviewed by potential bidders for the team the two agencies that were hired yesterday. Will now are expected to contact. Prospective bidders within thirty days. So this thing in the next few weeks I think it's really gonna speed up and maybe it's been very quiet to this point maybe you'll hear more. There -- Seymour hear more about. Specific groups -- people that are involved now because. There's there's the process is now there's a timetable there's tangible evidence yet that it's moving. That the banking -- we'll get the book out the get the bidders they'll figure out bidders they'll submit the bids. Will the pick out which you know they they send all the bids over the trust trust says okay this the -- were taking. They submit that to the National Football League in the National Football League would then have to prove potential -- again to stop that that portion of it. We'll get your -- your -- with -- 515. Tim Graham had a story in the news today that. The initial timetable of -- perhaps an ownership vote. By the NFL on October might be too ambitious that the sale of the the team even though it's fast tracking moving along pretty quickly sell the team is probably. Such a big process that it would not be ready for NFL approval October. The next regularly scheduled meeting is in march of 4015 but I don't attend to it this morning to remind me that there's a December meeting. Scheduled for labor updates so they could vote in December so they don't get it done by October. Then possibly you're looking at December for an ownership vote from the National Football League to figure out -- should be. Fred and Amherst and and if not it would be march in Europe WG jogger right ahead. Thank you Mike Cameron is Ike I like the Golf Channel -- already used to all the sports team. I'll be at its I keep but it still sports team and the second thing. This thing that I that they that they operations not a Jerry Jones traffic in the third he used the pot you'll keep your. The electorate. -- -- the third thing is the biggest thing. You know what I. I'm okay with your plan that typically come -- I would prefer an owner who puts his people in place but the GM do his job or whoever runs your. Footballer hockey side of operations. Let the business people do their job -- I wanna be informed about what's going on but I don't need a guy who would I don't think I and -- I don't envision Tom Golisano sitting in the draft -- saying you know what. Like the linemen from Fresno state instead I am pretty sure he would let his football people jobs and whenever this is -- and that got -- at the current staff. Which they have placed Russia as an existing relationship Russ hired dug around -- brought in Doug -- my guess is they would stay status quo that -- -- This is always appoint its product we never know how much input and -- -- we only assume that's all that. If the owner says. Go to the top of the draft and picked Nathan McCain and is that bad -- -- It's very cool lights Christian -- off was that bad. He liked Ville -- look at maybe he did we don't -- -- -- you never -- with the owner likes and doesn't like that GM goes so. I don't mind if an owner puts his hands in his property. In on his team because it's his team to have a lot of these owners probably do win. Probably have success I just want I like my -- to trust the GM and what the GNS -- and if he disagrees with the -- thinks is GM is running team badly. You can fire the GM bring another guy and but I'd hire the guy and trust his judgment draft free agency trades to run my. The sports side of my business properly and that if he doesn't I'd find somebody else to do. 8030515. To join Israel lines open if you wanna get in and share your pin and Tom Golisano coming up next hour. Couple things to get you well mentioned Ken Campbell from the hockey you'll join us at 930. On hockey you can cross off. A couple of potential landing spots for Ryan Miller so list is shrinking in potential landing spots for the former sabres goaltender. And -- lines are out talk about how many times the bills are favored at times their underdog we'll talk a little bit about their chances in these games when we get back on WG.

Has the preseason affected your expectations for the Bills season?
  Yes, they'll be much worse than I thought
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